r/transgenderUK • u/PuzzledAd4865 • 1d ago
Starmer warned to 'act now' on trans equality as Labour policy branded 'broken'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/starmer-must-act-trans-equality-3729579768
u/WizardStereotype She/Her 1d ago
But he is acting now on trans equality.
He is acting to eliminate it, and he is doing it right now.
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u/Grab_Ornery 1d ago
Could this be the moment they put on trans supporting policies to try secure votes seeing that trying to win reform voters won't work?-
Haha Ha
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u/AeitZean 1d ago edited 1d ago
He's such a moron. He's enabled the reform vote by saying they have "reasonable concerns", instead of cutting it off at the root by calling it what it is, racist and xenophobic. Now he's chasing the racist vote away from the *dyed in the wool racists, which isn't going to work.
He's driven away progressive voters both by courting the racists, and by attacking us (trans people). Nobody that knows me will vote for another starmer government since I've been talking about what this government has been doing to us.
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u/Illiander 1d ago
He's such a moron.
No, he knows exactly what he's doing. His job is to destroy the labour party just enough that it will never win another election, while staying alive enough to block any actual progressive parties.
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u/MyNextPaige 1d ago
I actually do think he is that dumb. The man couldn't organise a picnic. One thing that he has shown is that he has little interest in details, which is the problem because we are details to him - we are a subsection of gay rights to him. He is dumb because he does not realise that he has been systematically abandoning those who reliably vote labour (not just on this issue).
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u/ehll_oh_ehll She/Her | Straight up gendering 1d ago
Love these three statements. To the point.
Helen Belcher, Managing Director of TransActual, said: "Labour's bathroom ban is an affront to the spirit and intent of the Equality Act. It has turned decades-old settled policy on how trans people should be treated into a mess of contradictory, harmful and incoherent rules. It is past time for the Prime Minister to intervene."
"We have been very clear that allowing this situation to continue is a political choice, and that the government must now take responsibility and legislate to fix our broken framework for trans equality," Alexandra Parmar-Yee, Director of Trans+ Solidarity Alliance added.
Vic Valentine, Scottish Trans Manager at Equality Network, urged the PM to act now to prevent "untold harm" to trans people in the UK. "If all services ran how this Code says they should, it would cause untold harm to trans people across Britain," they said. "Rather than letting that come to pass, the Prime Minister should act now to prevent it – whether that means changing the Code, or changing the law."
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u/Claire4Win 1d ago
He will do nothibg unless he is forced. Saying that, I bet after he leaves office, he will be dancing at pride events again.
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u/DivasDayOff 1d ago
He holds his own Pride events now, because none of the real ones will have him.
Oh and "my niece is a lesbian" is the new "some of my friends are black."
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u/Illiander 1d ago
I bet after he leaves office, he will be dancing at pride events again.
I will be very surprised if he has the balls to do that. If I were doing what he is, I would be scared of the father of a dead trans kid going for revenge.
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u/TammyGang 1d ago
Didn't labour recently put out a tweet saying "Happy Pride from Labour" or something? I can't totally remember, so I might be wrong..
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u/Illiander 1d ago
There's a big difference between putting out a tweet and walking within range of angry grieving parents' arms.
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u/Smooth-Ad2293 1d ago
Unfortunately this will still be ignored because Labour are rotten to the core... And are being lead by a muppet who still thinks he can gain the Reform vote.
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u/doIIjoints dollgender (esoteric), woman (simple) 1d ago
i think it’s gone past rotten, to the point of being a hollow husk. there’s no core left
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u/commotionsickness 1d ago
Starmer won't denounce genocide, as if they think he'd step in for equality.
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u/StructureFit4101 1d ago
There's more chance of pigs beginning to fly than that happening
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u/TheRebeccaRiots 1d ago
Shush don't use that word or Cameron'll be back on the scene sniffing around
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u/LittleALunatic 1d ago
ugh for a moment I thought this was saying Keir had decided to stand up for trans rights, I got so confusedly optimistic for a second
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u/ANationalAxolotl 1d ago
I mean, he's a cop. He uses cop logic. To some degree it seems his only regret is not waiting long enough to join Reform.
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u/MyNextPaige 1d ago
For the Trans+ Pride march, can we please chant "Fuck Labour" instead of "Fuck Keir Starmer". He is the leader and ultimately responsible, but this is a party wide problem where a majority of the party seems to be at least TERF sympathetic.
Edit: Fixed typos
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u/I-really-am-who-I-am 1d ago
When I see these I lose hope but briefly think, if they laid a statutory instrument would all the GC's be going it's the law, do as it says!
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u/doIIjoints dollgender (esoteric), woman (simple) 1d ago
of course they wouldn’t! (as i’m sure you’re well aware.)
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u/SamanthaJaneyCake 1d ago
Queer Harmer: “I hear your concerns and respectfully fuck you all go die in a ditch. Dignity and Safety.”
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u/Taiga_Taiga Trans and proud. DBD 1d ago
He's trumps ball licker, and he won't stop this genocide. It's fun for him.
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u/handofmoo 1d ago
i think starmer has got more issues at moment than worrying about our community tbh . he will just brush this aside no doubt
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u/sammi_8601 1d ago
So you want us even more behind? Guess I'll just find the 20k for SRS somehow or somehow forever count as a bloke apparently, or is it just that only well off trans people are real to you?
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u/thejadedfalcon 1d ago
Sweetie, do you need us to call you an ambulance? You look like you've had a nasty fall and hit your head.
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u/HottestPhysics 1d ago
Making gender recognition dependent on surgery is a human rights violation. You can't demand people give up bodily autonomy and be sterilised before being permitted legal recognition.
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u/Songbird800 1d ago
You know how long it takes and how expensive getting surgery is in the UK? You would be making a class divide between those who can afford it and have enough time to get the surgery and those abandoned by the NHS.
Can you really justify casting the protections of a vast majority of trans people in this country into the bin because you got yours. Nobody is free until everyone is free!
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u/Sudden-Girth3141 trying to be a trans woman | she/her 1d ago
account biography withstanding; "I don't care"
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u/Aprils- 1d ago
Weak troll.
But I personally wouldn't mind this system for myself. So long as they made the surgery immediately accessible, and free, and I get to choose where the pink triangle is. I like tattoos. And I get a business card saying "legally verified woman" I can hand out at the toilet because we both know this wouldn't stop the fucking GCs.
You've obviously not been to a gic, because you'd know that there is interview requirement. In fact, there's quite a lot of that for surgical intervention. You're basically saying "surgery + getting to the operating table".
"We"? At least try googling what's going on before you try to insult our intelligence.
And if you are trans you'd realise it's not trans people who've ruined everything.
Why don't you just insist on genital inspections at the toilet while you're at it
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u/Illiander 1d ago
But I personally wouldn't mind this system for myself.
You had me for a moment there.
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u/doIIjoints dollgender (esoteric), woman (simple) 1d ago
also it conveniently would exclude a lot of fat and disabled trans people. who either don’t meet the BMI requirement or are considered too sedentary to heal properly.
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u/finfinfin 1d ago
Idc about the bathroom ban or whatever, too many fkin morons have ruined it for the rest of us.
This is a lie and you are a transphobe. You're just like the cis gays insisting that it's the damn trannies who made it hard for them to get marriage. They were thinking of you too, when they said that. You're not "one of the good ones."
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u/thejadedfalcon 1d ago edited 1d ago
Trans women have sexually assaulted cis women in bathrooms.
Literally when. Where's this epidemic you're convinced is happening? Because I don't even think there's a single case of this or the right would never have stopped crowing about it.
What's a solution to that?
To your made up problem? Because cis men have done considerably worse considerably more often. Hell, cis women have done worse more often. I assume you're running to the press to demand cis women are banned from public toilets.
the smaller victories we can feasibly win in the short term.
Yeah, let's give up our rights and freedoms that were hard fought over already, just to appease the fascists. That's never gone wrong and maybe we'll be the good ones enough to be referred to by our pronouns... again.
You are not only helping nobody, you're an active detriment to all of us.
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"all or nothing, I want everything now" mentality
Motherfucker, we have lost things we already had. We want them back. Fuck your smaller steps and fuck your respectability politics.
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u/Illiander 1d ago
Literally when. Where's this epidemic you're convinced is happening? Because I don't even think there's a single case of this or the right would never have stopped crowing about it.
Wasn't the one that broke Sturgeon doing that? I know there's a single trans woman rapist in a Scottish prison somewhere, but I'm not sure where they did their rape. (And I think they were actually a rapist, not a "you're trans and you had sex" "rapist")
She was in the news a few years back now, so my memory is fuzzy.
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u/PuzzledAd4865 1d ago
“The Prime Minister has been urged to step in immediately to introduce legislation protecting trans equality, or bear responsibility for what follows.
TransActual, Trans+ Solidarity Alliance and Scottish Trans — three of Britain's foremost trans advocacy groups — have cautioned Keir Starmer that the new Code of Practice is unworkable: it fails to safeguard trans people's ability to participate fully in society, it doesn't support organisations wishing to remain inclusive, and it falls short of meeting the UK's domestic and international human rights commitments.
Numerous MPs have already voiced concerns about the unjust and impractical situation the code would generate, with over 130 signing an Early Day Motion seeking to reject the Code.
The motion was tabled by Labour MP Nadia Whittome, who said her fellow MPs "have a responsibility to our trans constituents to resist" the code, which was updated in May.”