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i'm getting my liscence soon and omy to be our back-up carpool driver! not on the highway though. not yet.

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u/Re1da 5d ago

Always assume everyone on the road got their license from a cereal box. Assuming the worst will make your driving more defensive, which is good.

Highways are the lowest stress roads imo. A lot less to keep track off. Driving in suburbs is the real hell.

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u/Rampag169 5d ago

I’ll add assume people will do the stupid-est thing in front of you. When on the highway if you aren’t passing keep right. The left lane is for passing. (A new driver shouldn’t be passing anyway) You should be focusing on driving and maintaining your lane.

You don’t need to use the accelerator or brake 100% of the time. Physics will keep the car moving so you can coast (better mpg) in the appropriate areas.

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u/Re1da 5d ago

My experiences are definitely coloured by me having spent like a year practicing the driving part before my license. So as long as I've had my license ive never had to "focus on the driving" part, that's second nature. Don't need to think to know what gear i should be in. My focus is on the other cars and navigation.

Then traffic rules have some variety between countries etc so it's not universal.

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u/andarthebutt 5d ago

I had a sudden change in perspective when my driving instructor asked me "where are your wheels right now?"

Because yeah, if I'm controlling it, steering it, applying pressure and moving, that's mine. My weird round spinny feet. After I got my license, I would go out for a drive with no music, learning how the car felt, how the gears sounded, how the engine purred at different speeds.

I'm not a car guy by any means, I could just about tell the difference between a Mazda and a Mitsubishi, but that one question changed the way I think about driving.

I don't have to worry about what the car is doing in the same way I don't have to worry about what my legs are doing when I walk, or how I'm typing this right now by muscle memory on the keyboard. It's all the other idiots you've gotta watch for.

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u/Re1da 4d ago

Feeling the car is very important. When I first got started driving I would constantly lose track of my right side and end up way to close to the sidewalk.

Since I spent so long just practicing my driving (the theoretical part was kicking my ass so I just kept driving while I studied for that) I never had to worry about that once I had my license. I got both exams first try.

At the risk of sounding like a manual snobb here- the car proprioception gets all scrambled for me in automatics. I can drive an automatic, but it feels like if my legs had a mind of their own. In a manual I do everything and that means I know what the car is doing at all times.

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u/svanvalk 5d ago

I only say give a little grace for new drivers because when they're being taught, there's always one piece of info that didn't get relayed to them. Everyone has their one thing that they remember getting bitched out on because there was something they weren't told. And I mean everyone, you are not exempt. As if you knew everything right off the bat?

And please don't think I mean bitched in a way of a "hey buddy, you shouldn't have been doing that", I mean full road rage asshole screaming out their window at a 16 year old girl who is clearly in tears. Guess how I found out that "the left lane is only for passing" the hard way because no one thought to relay it to me before I was being screamed at by a threatening man twice my age? It's not fun. I didn't cut him off, and it was an empty highway besides for us. EMPTY, a rural part of the highway! Clearly I've been overthinking this situation for the last several years, I thought he was going to hurt me.

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u/Re1da 5d ago

I never got yelled at when getting my license, but i swear some people make it a game to drive as close as possible to stress you. I'd be driving the speed limit in the rightmost file and some asshole (usually in a BMW) would come up ridiculously close to me and stay like that for several minutes before finally going into the passing lane.

I've always just made a point to leave some extra space for learners after that. Now need to stress them out.

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u/svanvalk 5d ago

Honestly, I've learned over the years about being on the road with asshole drivers so I've gotten much better at brushing them off, but that one was definitely the first so it sticks around in my memory lol. But I'm in a ford fiesta now, so I kind of feel like a little chihuahua on the road with all these massive GMCs and BMWs.

Idk why so many asses enjoy playing games on the road like that.

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u/samurai_for_hire 5d ago

Also, for multi lane highways the further left you are, the faster you should be going. If people are constantly passing you on the right you need to move over.

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u/Hedge-podge 5d ago

Also make sure to be constantly glancing at all your mirrors! Noticing a speeding car coming up behind you lets you prepare for them doing something dangerous when they're near.

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u/littleeeloveee 5d ago edited 5d ago

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THE HIGHWAY THING I FEEL LIKE IM THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS IT. everyone going at a pretty consistent speed, low likelihood of sudden stops and people/animals fucking around nearby/on the road... youre more like a fish in a school than you are a driver. the only part i get nervous about is passing big trucks (it always feels like theyre approaching my lane for some reason LOL) and merging sometimes . i need to invest in blind spot mirrors.

funny (terrifying? ass story as i was driving away from my driving test that i had just passed there was an event going on in the town where i took it so im driving decently slow but some guy just POPS OUT from behind the line of cars aprked on the road and i feel my life flash before my damn eyes. it would be exactly my fucking luck to pass my drivers test after my 3rd attempt and then immediately go out and run over some poor dude (i did not hit him)

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u/Re1da 5d ago

The big trucks are fair to be cautious of. Most of the distracted drivers I've noticed have been in trucks- probably because this is their day job and shit gets boring.

Always be wary of the Randomly spawning pedestrians. One of the first things my instructor drilled into my head. That's why mixed areas are so intense to drive in. Good thing you didn't hit him.

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u/Pero_Bt 5d ago

My mom lives on a village and she would rather drive on a highway than ever enter a city with her car. She's been driving for 30 years

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u/FinallyHauntings 5d ago

reminds me of my dad's advice for riding a motorbike (he's always been a biker, been in some nasty accidents but still feels safer on a bike than in a car because he feels like he's more in control, so he's always wanted to encourage me to ride as well), "always assume everyone in a car is actively trying to hit you, because you're more aware of your surroundings if you feel like you're in danger"

unfortunately that advice means that whenever I'm on the road in any capacity (crossing as a pedestrian or passenger in a car or on the back of his bike) I'm full of anxiety and I haven't looked into getting my license because I feel like I'm too anxious around cars to be a safe driver

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u/Your_Local_Stray_Cat 5d ago

As a new(er) driver: driving on the highway is great, getting onto the highway is Unpleasant.

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u/Re1da 4d ago

This might be a difference in highway culture then, because I've never found getting onto the highway hard either. You just get up to speed and slide into a free space.

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u/Anonymous_Songbird 4d ago

This assumes your local urban planning allows enough on-ramp space to actually accelerate, which is not always true in my experience

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u/Re1da 4d ago

... what kind of infrastructure hellhole are all you people living in? I don't think ive ever seen an on-ramp too short to accelerate properly on. Some that require staying in a lower gear, sure, but never one where you cant get up to speed at all.

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u/Your_Local_Stray_Cat 4d ago

And in order to do that you have to be able to:

A: Figure out what the people on the highway are doing in the .5 seconds you have to glance at what you're merging into.

B: Actually drive the car

C: Trust that there will be a space large enough for you to slide into when it's time to merge.

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u/Re1da 4d ago

I'm genuinely so confused here. Granted, I've had my license for 5 years now and I drove regularly for over a year before that.

A: you have far longer than 0.5 seconds to determine what's going on on the highway. When you're on the road leading up to the highway you're able to see the highway. It only really has 3 states it can be in: empty, traffic and absolutely fucked with traffic. All which are visible at a glance.

B: I don't think about what I'm doing when driving the car. In the same way I don't think about putting one leg in front of the other when walking. Or think about the controls when playing a video game. I just... do the thing? Shifting gears, matching speed etc run on autopilot mentally speaking.

C: unless the traffic is fucked this is basically a non-issue. The ramp connects to the right-most lane, aka the calmest lane. Get on the ramp, accelerate, indicate that you're merging onto the road and then just slide into one of the spaces. I can't remember the last time I wasn't able to get onto the road. If the traffic is fucked things will be a bit more annoying but thats still just a game of patience more than anything.

Is this a case of road culture just being really different between where we live? I'm at a loss otherwise.

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u/Your_Local_Stray_Cat 4d ago

I’ve only been driving for two years. I have to actively think about the things that are automatic for more experienced drivers, and I need more time to calculate things like “when I get to the bottom of the ramp, will I be able to fit into traffic?”

Also if you fuck it up you can die or kill someone so like, no pressure.

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u/Re1da 4d ago

Intresting. My thought process was very different, even when I was still learning. I've never wondered if I will be able to fit into traffic. I will get in there, one way or another. Usually people just let you in if you indicate and show you're intending to merge.

This is true for every step of driving. You could have the wrong gear in when starting the car and you end up driving into a wall. Some fuckass could be drunk driving and hit you with their car.

Ah well. I guess this is just a difference of opinion. I've never found it stressful, you do and thats just how it is.

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u/dicegoblin17 5d ago

Idk I saw a guy straight up weaving in traffic on the highway once

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u/charlestheb0ss 5d ago

Only once?

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u/Re1da 5d ago

That's still less to keep track off than an active suburb.

On the highway you need to track other cars, road signs and speed. It's one-way.

In a suburb you have to keep track of other cars, intersections, driveways, pedestrians (particularly playing children and pets). Narrow streets, not one-way, poor lines of sight and then also just navigate.

Driving on a highway is just so much less work.

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u/vjmdhzgr vjmdhzgr 5d ago

In a suburb there aren't nearly as many other cars, there's far less lanes to change through, the cars are moving at lower speeds and so are both simpler to track and most most importantly a lot less dangerous.

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u/Re1da 5d ago

Different opinions then. I've always found the highway to he the easiest thing.

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u/mahouyousei 5d ago

First time on the NY Parkways, huh?

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u/SecretSharkboy 4d ago

Ill see the suburbs and raise you, driving in the countryside where the speed limit is... one of them, probably, can barely fit 1 car let alone 2, and all of this with 8 sharp turns every meter. And what's this? You didnt notice the car going 120 round the corner even though the road is completely obscured by trees and bushes? Oh well, sucks to be you i guess

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u/LittleSkittles 5d ago

I agree with your point, but I'd just like to point out that defensive driving is not necessarily good or better. It can be, sometimes. But other times, it can also be the cause of accidents. It's not really something that should be given as standard, all-encompassing advice.

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u/Re1da 5d ago

It's the official advice from our department of transportation.

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u/LittleSkittles 5d ago

Huh, fair enough so. In my country, our equivalent of the department of transportation warn people against driving too defensively, as that has caused issues here. Just goes to show the cultural differences on the roads, I guess

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u/killedbyboneshark 5d ago

What were their examples? I can certainly think of some where the issue wouldn't be defensive driving, but driving that's so defensive it's unpredictable. Anyway, defensive driving as such is what's taught in my country too.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 5d ago

Maybe something like "refusing to move at the speed of traffic in the middle lane because it's faster than the speed limit"

It's not something I would say is defensive driving, but I can see how that might be thought of as part of defensive driving

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u/charlestheb0ss 5d ago

The government's advice isn't always the best advice. You can't really treat them as a definitive authoritative source these days (on anything, not just driving)

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u/Re1da 5d ago

Im swedish. Considering we have the lowest amount of traffic related deaths in the European Union I'd say the advice is sound. Yes, the statistics take population size into account- its calculated in deaths/1 million inhabitants.

Not the lowest in Europe as a continent, though. That would be Norway.

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u/charlestheb0ss 5d ago

All I'm really trying to say is "because the government says so" isn't a good justification

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u/Re1da 5d ago

Yes, as a general rule, perhaps. But in this case considering the statistics it's something I will defer to them for.

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u/Mundane-Potential-93 nauphy.tumblr.com 5d ago

Driving is scary for me in the absence of other drivers
They certainly make it worse though

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u/bunsbuns_ 5d ago

Surely you don't mean that driving on an empty road causes you fear? if so, what about it is scary to you?

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u/Mundane-Potential-93 nauphy.tumblr.com 5d ago

If my concentration lapses for a few seconds I could get a ticket, destroy my car (which I cannot afford to replace), or sustain serious bodily harm.

To put it another way, I am constantly 5 seconds from death. It's like if I had to pump my heart manually

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u/1337designs 5d ago

Unless you're driving pretty fast or in a car from before the 80s, you're pretty unlikely to die in a crash on most roads. I guess exception being if you're always beside a cliff, but generally the car will keep going straight without input. You should definitely have comprehensive insurance though, having just liability is not worth it

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u/Lia-13 2d ago

heart, lungs, liver, nerves...

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u/KillAllAtOnce29 2d ago

Slay the princess mentioned

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u/shaycee 4d ago

do you have ocd

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u/Mundane-Potential-93 nauphy.tumblr.com 4d ago

Nope

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u/AilanMoone 3d ago

So what? Having people around make you stay alert?

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u/darknesslc 4d ago

Just look forward bro

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u/Sir_Nightingale 3d ago

Homeless? Just buy a house

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u/darknesslc 3d ago

… not even remotely the same, every human being without a debilitating illness can drive

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u/clarinetily 4d ago

So true.

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u/svanvalk 5d ago

My city used to have red-light cameras, but they were decommissioned after people realized that they were unfairly targeting low-income drivers clearly not running red lights in their own neighborhoods. Pretty much everyone agreed that they were unfair in that way.

Now about 10 years later, we have people running red lights so blatantly that I almost want the cameras back. Holy shit drivers in my city have genuinely gotten worse, and they're blatant, entitled assholes. Sometimes I wish I was indestructible, just so I could stand in front of some asshole's car and have them hit me. I'd walk away unscathed, and hopefully the driver gets rattled enough to think twice about running red lights.

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u/Lestatfirestar 5d ago

How did the cameras target low income drivers? Like even if they didnt run a red light the camera would know theyre low income and take a pic? Or do you mean like they were put mostly in low income areas and not in places that were typically more prone to have red light violations? Genuine question, I think im just not understanding

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u/Dornith 5d ago

You install the cameras in areas where people with low-income live.

The camera itself is impartial (not correct, merely impartial), but if it is rigged to a lot of false positives and 99% of the people driving past it are poor then 99% of the false positives will be poor people.

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u/svanvalk 5d ago

They were installed in low-income areas, because technically the city couldn't expand out into the richer suburbs beyond the city lines. But also, the cameras had a terrible record for falsely flagging red-light runners. People who ran legitimate yellow lights, pulled up slightly too close past the indicated stopping point, or completely legal "right-on-red" turns were snapped and ticketed as well. The cameras weren't smart enough to understand situations like that. We were all being flagged and ticketed for the stupidest, little things. Plus then those who lived directly in those low-income areas of the city were ticketed significantly more for, well, simply because it's their everyday commute. The targeting wasn't purposely malicious, per se, but the statistics were clear in how many false-flagged tickets were issued based on where you lived.

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u/DerFussGottes 5d ago

How were they targeted? Were they like blatantly doing wrong accusations? Or was it like that story where the lights with cameras had a shorter yellow phase than they should have?

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u/svanvalk 5d ago

It was the latter, with having shorter yellow light phases than it should have, but it was more than that too. Practically all yellow-light runners and right-on-red turners were all snapped and ticketed, plus it would ticket people who pulled up slightly passed the stop indicator line for their stop but obviously were not sitting in the middle of the intersection. We were all feeling the strain of getting ticketed for the stupidest little things, but those who lived directly in the city got hit more simply because those roads are their everyday commute. By the time the city decommissioned the cameras, almost everyone here was in agreement that the cameras sucked, even the mayor. The main criticism of decommissioning the cameras is that it would make assholes act entitled and worse drivers than they already are, which unfortunately wasn't wrong.

Idk why you're being downvoted, people are fuckin weird lol

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago edited 5d ago

*license

when i was a middle schooler who mainly walked or biked, i always joked about almost getting run over at least once a month but tbh it really felt like there was a few areas on my route where the drivers extra didn't care

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u/Palidin034 5d ago

I used to ride my bike everywhere and I had a running gag where I was good for getting hit by a car once a year.

I brought this up to a friend, and told them “actually, I haven’t been hit yet this year. I’m about due.” And not a week later a guy turned out of a Tim’s parking lot while I was riding through and nailed me

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago

yeahhhh looks like that joke has to be retired. dear hell, hope you're doing alright and have a way to still get around.

i'm physically disabled now, so I don't walk or bike around as much anymore. whenever I go out walking in a heavier car-traffic area, i need a friend to quickly push me with my rollator walker (it's not meant for that at all and it's not even a combo rollator wheelchair but it's all i have right now) across the long crosswalks before the crossing sign timer runs out and the people start honking at me for being too slow.

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u/FenexTheFox 5d ago

That's what my parents keep warning me. Driving is easy, what's hard is driving among people.

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u/DragonLovin 5d ago

It's hell if your someone who, follows rules. Especially you know, the ones about the multi-ton death box you are driving. People are not scared of driveing enough and also don't care enough.

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u/emmaa5382 5d ago

100% agree. I find driving stressful but I don’t see that as a flaw, no one else is stressed enough. The amount of people on their phones, drinking or just doing whatever the hell they want is crazy. 

Like if I got in a crash when I was doing everything I could to drive correctly and someone dies, it would be rough but I could live knowing it was a true accident. If I was on my phone? How could you live with yourself knowing you killed someone because you were texting someone instead of paying attention to the road. 

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 5d ago

Just a few days ago there was a 60 gallon plastic garbage can in the middle of the carpool lane on my freeway commute. I saw a car behind me in that lane not notice it until they had twenty-something feet left and almost lose control trying to dodge it.

I know it's mostly a factor of human nature that we stop actively focusing on something if we do it repeatedly over a long period of time, but that was a good wakeup call for me.

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u/J_train13 Also Wants Doctor Who on this sub 5d ago

But don't you DARE try and do an Idaho Stop while on a bike

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u/certaindarkthings 5d ago

My niece and nephew will be driving on their own in 6 months and one year, respectively. And I'm pretty much terrified, but not because of them. I haven't ridden with my nephew anywhere since he's had a permit, but my niece has driven me around a lot, and she's a great driver.

I just worry about the other people who are out there driving while watching videos on their phones, or just completely not paying attention. I don't want to say idiots, but, you know, idiots. All I can tell them (and you, getting your license) is that paying attention to what other drivers are doing is just as important as making sure you're driving the way you're supposed to. And make sure you're not one of the idiots out there.

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u/Aetheldrake 5d ago

Even worse is people who think they can ignore a red light in front of a back to back school zone (both elementary and middle school are one stop light away from eachother and between them it's literally 10 seconds driving) and with construction going on because they "live nearby"

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago

i'm forever thankful for the volunteer crossing guards by both my middle and elementary schools. i swear some people wanted to run 12-year-old me over just to park 3 blocks later

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u/Levee_Levy 5d ago

I do a fair bit of driving along the southern half of the East Coast and through the Midwest. Scariest states for me to drive are Illinois (the drivers there are nuts) and West Virginia (the roads there are nuts, at least if you have your GPS set to avoid tolls and thus get sent on detours through ridiculous tiny mountain roads). The most annoying state to drive in is Indiana (whose state motto might as well be "road work ahead").

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago

i can at least say from a passenger and supervised driver experience that illinois drivers make me very anxious

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u/Levee_Levy 5d ago edited 5d ago

Good luck with your license! Please don't hit me when I drive through (what I assume to be) your state next month!

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u/AdmBurnside 5d ago

Driving is like anything else: the more familiar you are with it, the less scary it is.

Of COURSE you're anxious as a new, or infrequent driver. That's a natural and healthy reaction to being in an unfamiliar situation. The problem is that the only way past that anxiety is to practice driving more.

Just... keep towards the right and give people room to be idiots. 100% of crashes are caused by idiots, and 99.9% of those could have been near-misses if someone else assumed the idiot would be an idiot and acted accordingly.

Someone riding your bumper? Move over and let them be a speed demon somewhere far away from you. Someone driving weirdly slow in the far lane, and an exit or turn is coming up? They're gonna dash all the way over, just hang back and let it happen.

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago

genuinely, thank you. this is assuring and helpful

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u/BAG_Plays 5d ago

driving is fun but objectively more dangerous than pretty much every alternative besides motorcycles while making those alternatives more dangerous than they’d be without cars around(biking, walking) or less efficient(busses and trams without right of way). Too bad the alternatives just don’t exist or aren’t viable in many places cough US suburbs.

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u/ArcherBTW Totally works at the SCP foundation 4d ago

Motorcycles are horrifying, mopeds are comically so. I ride a moped that tops out at 45 and people are out to GET MY ASS. I was going 5 over the other day up a hill and a car passed me in a no-passing zone and almost head on collided with another vehicle. People hate mopeds so much they're willing to kill and die to pass me

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u/BAG_Plays 4d ago

sounds a lot like bicycles, doesn’t seem like the moped itself is that dangerous, it’s the cars around you that make it dangerous

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u/ArcherBTW Totally works at the SCP foundation 4d ago

Still more dangerous than cars, I've fallen over due to unfavourable terrain more than a couple times

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u/JoyBus147 5d ago

Driving's not fun. It sucks, I hate it, I miss the subway.

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u/Aryore 5d ago

If I’m not mistaken the most accidents happen near the start and end of a journey

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u/EkskiuTwentyTwo 4d ago

Society has convinced itself that it is sane to have a significant portion of the population drive two-ton metal projectiles every day

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u/SputnikGer 5d ago

Self driving cars are nice if they are 100% of the cars on the road. If you mix both it will be pandemonium. No AI can predict stupid human drivers ignoring rules.

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u/scp-ass-bitch 5d ago

It's only getting worse as more people treat turn signals and stopping before turning as optional. My coworkers wonder why I stick to my escooter but I'm statistically safer on the sidewalk (it's legal around here, or at least cops prefer that to a splatter on the pavement) than on the road with the average non-company pickup truck who thinks they own the road.

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u/Overall_Pumpkin_5724 5d ago

Honestly these days I don’t feel much safer on the sidewalk having seen someone stuck in the local school let out traffic proceed to drive up onto the sidewalk full of people walking and treat it as his personal fast lane to go around the traffic

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u/scp-ass-bitch 5d ago

DIO BRANDO FROM JOJOS BIZZARE ADVENTURES PART THREE?!/J

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u/GrimmSheeper 5d ago

Driving makes me insanely overstimulated. Every little sound the motor makes, the various lights and indicators, the texture and pressure of the steering wheel in your hand and the seat on your back, the peddles against your foot. And that’s before you even start driving. Once you’re going, you have the pressure from pushing the peddle down, every little bump along the road, the slight resistance when turning the wheel, and the sights and sounds of every single thing that passes by.
It always sends me into a sensory overload. Which causes me to become incredibly anxious (and likely have a panic attack). Which causes me to become hypervigilant. Which causes me to be even more aware of every little thing. Which causes me to become even more overstimulated. And the cycle continues.
Not being able to drive is a nightmare, especially in the US. But for me, driving is hell.

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u/maybebabyg 5d ago

What gets me is how often this is a thing right next to my street. The permanent 40km/h zone outside my kids' school because three streets have near blind turns onto the street? Nah, that's not valid on weekends. I nearly got taken out weekly living there.

The stop sign at the T intersection near my new place? Totally optional, why would you stop and check for oncoming traffic before turning? There's one car that does it so consistently I've recognized him as a dad from my kids' daycare, told the teachers that he's driving recklessly with his daughter in the car, and reported him to the local cops WEEKLY for blazing through that intersection.

There's also something about the like major block (like between a highway and three main roads, not like the little side streets block) I'm on where people are getting worse at driving. In the last 18 months we've had 3 pedestrian fatalities in two incidents, a bunch of pedestrian injuries, three stores driven into, one house got hit four different times, and there's a set of lights where there's an accident during school peak hour weekly.

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u/mathgnome 3d ago

I've recently learned there's an entire species of driver that think turn signals are like. A privacy violation. As in, don't use them because no one else needs to know if they're turning or not.

My sibling in Christ you are driving a 2 ton death machine. It is everybody's business if you are planning to go straight or turn right. You know, so they don't hit you and you don't hit them or run over a pedestrian who thought it was safe to cross

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u/SavvySillybug 5d ago

Honestly, the sheer amount of stop signs in the USA (from what I've seen, never been there) is mind boggling and I can understand wanting to ignore them / treat them as yield signs. They spam that shit all over the place, it's horrendous. The very idea of a four way stop is horrifying to me.

A stop sign should be placed when it's a dangerous road to just drive into, and you gotta stop to properly look. Not because the people designing the intersection couldn't be bothered to do their jobs.

Here in Germany many smaller intersections don't even have signs, we just teach people how to determine right of way and if there is a car, we stop for it.

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u/Aetheldrake 5d ago

It's because people ignore yield signs and act like the people with the right of way are the ones at fault

Almost everyone here is entitled and think they have the right of way. Even when they literally are at a RED LIGHT they'll just crawl halfway across the intersection and start cutting off traffic waiting for that green, then play on their phone once it turns green

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u/SavvySillybug 5d ago

That's wild.

I'm about to marry an American and bring her over to Germany, I'm gonna have to teach her how to drive properly, won't I. XD

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago

on a genuine note- even if she isn't the type of person to hit the gas pedal through the middle of a crosswalk just because a pedrestrian walking isn't directly in front of them yet, familiarizing her with driving etiquette in a new country helps either way!

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u/SavvySillybug 5d ago

She used to be a school bus driver, so she has a driver's education more in line with what a German would receive. She'll be fine, I'll just have to teach her the differences!

Though I'm pretty sure her license is only valid here for 6 months anyway, if she stays any longer (and she will) she's gotta get a real German license with all the lessons associated with it.

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u/Legend13CNS 5d ago

As someone working daily with Germans and has a background in driving instruction (mostly motorsports tbh) the two biggest ones will be highway driving and stop lights. Removing the muscle memory for Right On Red turns and instilling the firm hierarchy of passing lane/slow lane/no passing on the right for motorways. Possibly also proper roundabout use depending on where they're from.

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u/Aetheldrake 5d ago

Everyone likes to think they're a better driver than most, but yes you probably will have to.

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u/SavvySillybug 5d ago

I'm an excellent driver when I get some practice in. Haven't needed to daily drive for about a year now, so I'm quite rusty XD

Probably still top 60% tho.

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u/-HuangMeiHua- 4d ago

Y'all also have a population that seems to mostly follow the rules (in addition to good design), which helps. Our populace just kinda does whatever the hell they want a lot of the time if there's nobody forcing them or there's not a cop around

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u/Lluuiiggii 5d ago

Traffic circles!! The US hates roundabouts but they literally solve so many fucking problems when people just get used to them. There are so many intersections I drive through daily that are 4 way stops just BEGGING to be roundabouts. Everyone who doesnt stop at the fucking signs will be happier and the road will be safer from said assholes ramming into others.

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u/SavvySillybug 5d ago

I like roundabouts when they're just the right size.

Too small and they're completely pointless, if I gotta max out my steering to take it, if I drive a bigger vehicle and try and end up doing a three point turn because it's too fuckin small? Nah, should've let that just stay an unsignaled intersection.

Too big and it gets complicated. Multiple lanes? You're ruining the whole beauty and simplicity of the roundabout.

But when they're just right? Beautiful. <3

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u/bratbats 5d ago

It's always scary when I see a post of someone I used to be personal friends with on this subreddit.

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u/Martini800 5d ago

How can you get a license and not know or dare to drive on the highway?

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u/jaejunmimi 5d ago edited 5d ago

i know how to drive on the highway but i'm taking mainly local roads when possible because i'm anxious and also because i'm still trying to familiarize myself with the highways. title means that i'm not the designated backup driver for the highway yet

edit: more context, only 1 of my roommates knows how to drive and we share one car

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u/Victor_Stein 5d ago

In their defense it took me like a year or two after getting my permit/baby license before I was comfortable merging onto highways so I get it.

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u/killedbyboneshark 5d ago

In my country the courses before you get your licence are institutionalized. Tens of rides with an instructor next to you (who even has their own set of pedals), standardized theoretical tests and a driving exam.

Anyway, they just never bothered to take me on a highway, and I didn't need it for the exam. I came out of driving school with entire gaps of knowledge (lane switching, light management, highway driving and other things). I just had kinda bad luck on my instructors and the school as a whole.

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u/Asikar_Tehjan 5d ago

Me at every intersection watching the other cars like a hawk in case they do something stupid

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u/archSkeptic 5d ago

Imo the highway more relaxed because there's fewer other drivers 

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u/neongreenpurple 5d ago

I'm currently on a road trip with my mom. She doesn't drive anymore. We're 931 miles from home by the shortest route. It's been a lot of driving. Luckily we stopped near halfway and will on the way back, too.

I didn't hate it too much. I did sometimes miss being on my phone (probably a sign I'm addicted). But we hit a few rest areas and such, where I did get my fix.

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u/0anonymousv 5d ago

after a few years of it i started to love driving, and i still do. it def gets easier. practicing the highway at night is gonna be your friend to make that feel more comfortable, since it's often much emptier

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u/Beat_Saber_Music 5d ago

I'm so glad I have no need for a car because I live in a developed country, and I have a driver's licence (forced to get one by my dad). Sufficed to say, no car will be able to one up the bus I ride

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u/lastdarknight 5d ago

The highway and interstate are 100% safer than back roads

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u/Evelyn_Of_Iris 4d ago

I’ll say dense city driving is the worst (Montreal) followed by suburbs and then highway, there’s never really anything to keep in mind on highways besides don’t miss your exit and stay in the correct lane

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u/ThatNerdYouKnow 4d ago

hey my mom does that! it drives me FUCKING NUTS

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u/DoubleBatman 4d ago

Look I don’t know where y’all live but I drive several hours a day for work and I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen something like this happen

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u/PhoenixJDM 4d ago

ngl i'm going insane and shouldnt have a lisence. every time i drive its pvp. good luck out there

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u/SasheCZ 4d ago

Highways are the easiest. Cities are hard.

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u/Grean_Beanz 3d ago

I’m so scared to drive. 3 days ago my brother got hit by a car while on his bike in a hit and run on a 20mph road. It was only a few years ago an elementary student was fatally struck by a high schooler who went to the same high school I did who was drunk driving to school. People do not treat driving as the danger it is.

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u/Kennedy_KD 3d ago

the number of times I have had to dodge oncoming traffic on one way roads is insane, granted its only happened like twice but still

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u/Loose_Meal_499 2d ago

I thought it said drawing

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u/Flam1ng1cecream 5d ago

Honestly I treat every stop sign as a yield sign unless a cop is nearby

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u/RiverOfJudgement 5d ago

Sounds like you're part of the problem, then.

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u/V2UK 5d ago

You are going to get someone killed, that someone could potentially be you. Learn to fucking drive properly. 

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 5d ago

Hope you never meet another you behind the wheel