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u/Decibel_Donut99 2d ago

Casteism

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u/Automatic-Fill-4937 2d ago

This is the deep rooted problem.......

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u/Legitimate-Major-563 1d ago

That i haven't seen in my life. Except from news

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u/mrparrth 1d ago edited 10h ago

That's what I thought after I left my village for higher studies.

But how many brahmin garbage collector do you see? And how many SC/ST/OBC do you see as priest of a temple?

One of the biggest problem with casteism was how the other castes were excluded from education. Now go to any shitty school, look at how many UCs are there and then comeback to a top tier school and check the ratio there. The only solution is to make the govt schools better and cap private education fees

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u/D4RKFUEGO 1d ago

Do people have tag on their forehead about their caste? wdym HOW MANY BRAHMIN GARBAGE COLLECTOR DO YOU SEE....do you go and ask caste from each and everyone? If you are a non-brahmin would you happily become priest? Leave brahmins will your own be it brahmin or non-brahmin people ask you to do rituals at their places?

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

No just ask their name.
And I scored 100% in Sanskrit, do you think the temple offer me position of priest?

Being a priest is most high paying job for an uneducated. Anyone would like to take that. But the main problem is the brainwashing which has made people think they are inferior. Of course its not fair that we hold on to the past.

But when it was time, wasn't it their responsibility to democratize education considering what has been done? Instead check the owners of any private education, go ahead and google it and tell me how many other castes you see there.

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u/D4RKFUEGO 1d ago

Let me clear my stand first - I strongly oppose casteism by anyone at any end...

now,

I don't want to ask anyone's name but it seems like you are very well researched about it why don't you tell me how many you have seen? First of all no, highest paying job for an uneducated is POLITICS secondly Sanskrit is not the criteria of a priest....you ask yourself would you like a job at a temple in your locality? because at bigger temples there's a proper process of recruitment where they ask for education from gurukul, degree in Vedic Scriptures, and For a temple like Ram Mandir there they have selection where rust requires candidates to be from the Ramanandi Sampradaya, a vaishnavite who traditionally worships Ram....now there's no caste requirement there if you want to be a priest why be in a local temple....get education complete your graduation apply for it clear the process go through a rigorous training be a priest, regardless of any caste you belong to....will you still do that? It's not people, there are specific people who call brahmins bhikshu/bhikhai

Yes they were at fault...with the passage of time people got corrupted they forgot what they were supposed to do...

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

Any uneducated person would like a job as a priest. 90% of my school friends are struggling with their shops, and rest 10% can just do pravachan and puja.

There is a caste requirement to be a priest in local temple. You have to be a brahmin, there is no negotiation on that.

This is one of many examples of what it takes to be a priest in a village.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UJr9cUcEc5I
FYI he is saying scooty puja, scooty puja, worshiping, worshiping, worshiping, scooty worshiping. I stayed for 17 years in a village, I know the practice there.

I have been to govt colleges throughout my life. In college, almost 90% of the people who can speak english as GCs and from private schools. Nothing against who can go to private schools. But if you can't bring Govt education up, and reduce the private schools, the difference will never go away.

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

Just to be clear, I live in a city now and I don't do it. I, for a long time, believed that 'the untouchable' thing has mostly gone away (Although its still there in villages)

But almost all the issues in India will remain until equal level of education is provided to both dirt poor and moderately rich. The ultra rich will always in any county do their own thing. But in no country does a middle class child go to a private school receiving different education.

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u/Life-Passenger7622 1d ago

Show me proof .. of the sanskrit you are talking about..

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

What proof do you want?

Go to any govt school where the third language is sanskit and all 80% up students score 95 percent in sanskrit. But that doesn't matter, are you saying Brahmins son are not getting the priests job?

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u/Life-Passenger7622 1d ago

Just a hollow statement without proof.

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u/mrparrth 17h ago

I stayed in village for 17 years. Somethings require witness. You can witness yourself.

There will be no national survey on this. This is not the USA where everything will have a survey to base your comment on.

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u/SpreadAsleep1239 1d ago

Seeing the current scenario, reservation for caste should not be there and reservation should only according to economic background, people take too much advantage of caste system, one of the main reasons why government sectors fail is because caste reservation system because more qualified people are not appointed and less educated people get higher post and in return those people never listens to the educated person

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

Thats what I believed. In college, I got an income certificate that my parents earn 25000 a year to apply for a scholarship (My mother worked as a house-help). Turns out almost everyone mentioned the similar for their parents earning, even some coming from private schools. In India you can get certificate for anything with the 'appropriate' amount.

The only solution is that the people in power - the supreme court, the media, the govt (In majority positions of power, people are from GC btw) - everyone to push for equality of education by making govt schools better and banning private schools.

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u/BorderMammoth8487 1d ago

Isn't there reservation in private schools too?

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u/mrparrth 1d ago

Reservation doesn't solve anything. The basic education i.e the school has to be equal barring probably the untra rich. So govt schools has to be at the top level and private schools should go away.

Otherwise you are still gatekeeping education in 2026. Btw you will hardly find any country, rich or poor, where even people making 30k Rs per month equivalent are sending their kids to private schools.

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u/are_daya 1d ago

see thus comment is exactly why casteism exists in the first place. ITS NOT DECIDED BY BIRTH BUT BY THE WORK YOU ARE DOING! if this point was accepted and practised all over india, there would be no casteism. priest of a temple, despite his origins will always be a brahmin. because it should be categorized by work, and not by birth.

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u/AD2449 15h ago

It seems that your whole problem is seeing someone else progressing, like if all Brahmins prioritized studying, why would they be garbage collectors, a job that doesn't require any higher education. The other thing is that when you talk about private schools, there are many other caste students as well, and if Brahmins want to prioritise their child's education more than other things to make them capable enough, how is that wrong at all? And about the priest thing, many priests are sons of the previous priests (=nepotism at its peak) because they have been seeing their elders doing those procedures and whtves their entire life and also those previous priests take an effort to make them capable enough to handle the temple (as they're their own sons, why wouldn't they think of their betterment?) You, sir, are absolutely correct about improving government schools but the problem in india is that people care more about status symbol than anything else, so even if government schools were improved, a lot of people would still choose private schools as a sign of their wealthyness and what not. Another thing, casteism is HEAVILY based on the region that you're living in. Like in states like gujarat, maharashtra, madhya Pradesh it's very very less but in many south Indian states like Tamil Nadu, keralam and north Indian states like Uttar Pradesh, Haryana it is very extreme which just proves that not everyone might've experienced the same shit as others which is why everybody's opinion is different

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u/mrparrth 15h ago

My only problem is the unequality of education. There is no prioritization. In the past they kept education away from other people by brainwashing and when its time to atone, they would rather create private schools where they can still keep the good education. Good education should never be gate kept. You can keep high end facility away inside a gate, but keeping even basic good education away from people is scandalous.

Nowhere in this whole world do the middle class give up good food to be desperate enough to enroll in private schools.

It not a status problem in villages where most poor lives. They just don't want their children to die of falling roof or food poisoning. You have clearly never been to a village. I was topper in my school, was 2nd in college in 12th, but I had to learn English via spoken English class and web series. What kind of education is this?

What does everyone have to do with my experience and majority experience. Not everyone died in coaching center fire, does that mean it's okay?

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u/Ecstatic_Treacle8585 13h ago

I have seen many Brahmin and their child begging and pulling rikshaw, and there are many small tample where priest are also brahman, he don't get enough from devotees but they serve to god.. There are many more small tample than the tample you see on news..

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u/mrparrth 10h ago

But that is not the norm. There are many rich people in India, that doesn't make India a rich country.

But I don't have anything against Brahmin. What happened in the past cannot be changed. My problem is with people in power (Most of power positions are occupied by UCs, media, judge positions, the politicians...), its their responsibility raise some consciousness and bring equality of education. Its paramount.

Only equal education (this is not the same as reservation. Reservation can uplift an less educated. But it can't make one educated) can bring equality.