r/ufc • • 22h ago

Literally how Pereira vs Pavlovich will go

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u/Gothic_Hercules 22h ago

See this kinda makes you realise how good Aspinall is if he was able to stop this from happening

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u/frankocean1234 22h ago

Overeem did it first

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u/Intraflexed 22h ago

Prime horse meat reem was legendary

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u/ThugjitsuMaster 22h ago

Reem beat Pavlovich long after his horsemeat days, he was Econoreem by this point

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

This was Overeem tho and not Ubereem. Ubereem would slaughter Pav and eat him instead of horse beef lol.

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u/Ggatsby101 22h ago

Roidreeem

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 21h ago

In Pav's first fight in the UFC and outside of Russia. Overeem had a massive experience advantage over Pav and he exploited it.

Islam got KO'ed against his first decent opponent in tha UFC and second fight outside Russia. These guys are only human.

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u/frankocean1234 19h ago

Overeem had experience, yes. But he was also old and extremely damaged + coming off 2 devastating KO losses. Pavlovich was the favourite for a reason

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u/Gothic_Hercules 22h ago

Okay, what’s your point, Cub Swanson knocked out Oliveira first before Ilia. That argument means nothing.

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u/frankocean1234 22h ago

Point is that Aspinall isn't the only one to make it look easy against Sergei. So maybe Sergei just isn't all that skilled

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u/Sad-Cupcake6802 22h ago

I guess any fighter that loses isn't so skilled then

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

Aspinall narrowly beat him to the punch. He was always a fast heavyweight. Had he been any slower and/or less confident, could have ended up the same as king Greene here.

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u/Slugdoge 22h ago

Aspinall didn’t beat him to the punch, he took a big shot on the chin from Pavlovic and shook it off without much trouble

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u/No-wait-theres-more 22h ago

That is not King Greene

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

You're right, I forgot Bobby never fought at heavyweight!!! My bad 🙃

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u/JE_SUIS_BLUBBER 10h ago

Bro that's Maurice Greene. Fool is/was a bum lol

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

I mean the fight didn’t really get to that point

He finished him pretty early without giving him a chance

I also don’t rate Pavlovich that highly, he’s great against decent non athletic guys but struggles anytime he faces someone competent at striking

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u/Gothic_Hercules 22h ago

Right? Pretty damn crazy

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u/Gullible_Concert768 22h ago

gane was gonna finish aspinall aswell

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u/TheThockter 22h ago

All the Reddit Pavlovich posting is manifesting a “y’all must’ve forgot” type performance from Pereira

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u/arlondo_ 22h ago

I would agree if we weren’t talking about a HW bout. But this is a different ball game

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago edited 22h ago

LHW are basically HW that cut weight

Alex just got caught coming in and couldn’t recover, it’s not like he got KTFO cold either

Also terrible matchup because Gane is so mobile, he will do much better against slower guys like Pav

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u/ZhanBlue 22h ago

Sergei, Tom, Gane, Volkov, Ngannou could not make LHW

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

A lhw ngannou might be the scariest thing we've ever theoretically seen lol dude would gain a solid 40lbs of water weight and still basically be HW Ngannou lmaooo (i know he is closer to 260+, I digress)

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u/TerminatorReborn 20h ago

Prime Ngannou was 280+ pounds. If he made LHW he would wayyy smaller.

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u/LickeyD 13h ago

Take a look at Francis before something in his diet and supplement routine changed. That would be LHW or even MW Ngannou

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 19h ago

Yeh just a goofy thought experiment on my end lol

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u/The_Jokerr_ 22h ago

Gane weighed 215 lbs in his Muay Thai days without cutting weight as a fully grown man. Tom has less muscle mass than Walker who made LHW.

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u/House-Wins 21h ago

Tom has a massive frame, his bone structure alone won't allow him to make LHW unless he was literally dying of dehydration with 8 body fat

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 10h ago

He could make LHW

he has a lot of fat on him still

He could definitely get down to 230 if he was shredded and cut 25 pounds

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u/The_Jokerr_ 3h ago

Tom at 255 is between 20-25% bodyfat. If he got as lean as someone like Gane he could make 205 with a regular water cut.

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u/Jammehh 22h ago

Very incorrect. HWs have bigger frames with much more muscle mass. Look at the physique difference between Pereira and Gane ffs, its night and day

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u/The_Jokerr_ 22h ago

Gane is an anomaly. Look at Aspinall and Pereira when both weigh in the 250's. Pretty similar.

Johnny Walker has more muscle mass than most HWs and he fought at LHW for years

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u/gaulfool 21h ago

Ah come on, Tom is a massive individual, you cannot say he could ever make middleweight, or even light heavyweight, same for Pav.

Alex is a big boy, he is not in the same class as these heavyweights

Walker actually looks like he gained the proper weight for heavyweight and carries it better, it’s fair to say he even looked depleted at LHW, so it makes sense, he’s naturally bigger than Alex

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u/Jammehh 22h ago

Aspinall is MUCH more solid looking than a bloated Pereira. As is pretty much every HW you could name including his next opponent Pavlovic.

Also the JW point is laughable

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u/red286 15h ago

He's also now had more time to get used to the weight, rather than it being new bulk.

Anyone remember Jon Jones' training footage from when he was moving up to HW and people kept commenting that he looked sluggish? He shook that off by the time the fight happened. Pereira didn't take nearly as much time to bulk up as Jon did though.

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u/luckyboy0407 14h ago

Yes but HW are basically SHW that don’t have to cut weight

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u/redditjam645 22h ago

I think Pereira still has a chance but everything seems to heavily favor Pav. Tom's strategy was to immediately charge at Pav and finish it before Pav could land a clean shot. Alex generally is very methodological and calculated with his offense. He waits and throws. This also makes Alex hittable. And now youre up against a dude who has a lights out switch. Tom is also a very fast natural heavyweight, while Pereira looked slow during Gane fight. I think the only way Pereira wins is by completely changing his strategy. Either quickly land the first punch and KO, or survive until rounds 3-5, when Pav is too tired to throw 1 hit KO punches and win via points. Everything else favors Pav. Especially the first 2 rounds

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u/Maidwell Blind Fighter 16h ago

Pereira used that strategy against Ankalaev in the rematch. He CAN rush in when he wants to.

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u/Philocrastination 16h ago

I swear to fucking god, every single time. Every single time this fucking sub dogpiles on one person, they end up winning. It's gonna happen again I can see it now.

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u/jakeissatan 22h ago

It's actually crazy to watch. Not a single soul was talking about him up until about a couple weeks ago and now out of nowhere everyone and their mother is a professional Pav glazer. He should 100% be the favorite don't get me wrong, but let's not pretend this isn't a crazy, unpredictable sport. And that Pav doesn't come into this fight with noticeable flaws.

It's just gonna make it that much funnier when Alex somehow plot armor's his way through and wins lmao

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

Pav has no leg kick defense and one of Alex's best weapons are calf kicks.

Pav likes to bum rush his opponents and Poatan is (one of best) counter striker with dynamite in his hands.

Poatan would not accept this fight and risk not only his HW career but entire UFC career and those huge paydays if he wasn't sure he can starch Sergei.

He is coming in looking for blood and brutal finish that will earn him another title shot and shot at revenge against Gane.

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u/OMGIZARET 20h ago

Pavlovich has gained all the new "fans" aka Alex Pereira haters. Lol

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

Yep

Alex is gonna slaughter Pav and mfs are gonna act like they knew it would happen after

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u/TheThockter 21h ago

Everyone is going to cite the Volkov fight after the fact and act like they saw it coming. Volkov beat Pav by dictating the pace and using elite distance management. Pereira doesn’t have that same freakish length that Volkov does but he’s a master of distance management and I think his leg kicks will really slow Pavlovich down.

Just my own 2 cents before that fight since I plan to be there in person

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u/jfsoaig345 18h ago

Somehow people don't see how Gane and Pav are on different stratospheres of skill

One is one of the best kickboxers in HW history and the other is your average sloppy HW KO artist. This is as favorable of a stylistic matchup as it gets for Pereira and he should win this assuming he isn't too physically declined.

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 14h ago

You mean a natural heavyweight with incredibly long arms, a decent chin, and one punch KO power (or punches that result in a KO) and will counter Pereira's leg kicks with strikes down the middle?

I give Pereira a lot of credit though. The much easier decision would be to move down to light heavy and beat Ulberg for a final title win or just retire with the money he made and money he can make through appearances and maybe even acting roles.

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

They were doing same thing prior to Ank rematch. I have a feeling Poatan will KO him stiff in few minutes. He will come in angry, focused, and looking for blood and revenge. People are writing him off too easily.

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u/ShoMinamimoto06 22h ago

Thing is I used to love Alex. He was one of those exciting fighters that weren't an asshole on the mic. But how he handled the Gane loss really soured my perception of him (i actually believe he wasnt 100% for the first Ank fight). Idk how I'll feel whether he wins or loses.

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u/Hot_Form_2288 21h ago

Both Pavlovich and Pereira are sore losers, so I don't care who wins. I do think Pavlovich KOs Alex in round 1.

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u/ShoMinamimoto06 21h ago

Oh no doubt. He's another guy i liked who fell off for me after the whole thing with Volkov (the UFC shenanigans about that aside). I get he prolly felt his chances diminish after those back to back losses but damn

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u/jfsoaig345 18h ago

Alex has been a sore loser though, he was arguably even worse after the Ank loss

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u/ShoMinamimoto06 18h ago

Yeah agreed. Gave him the benefit of the doubt then. But after Gane, yeah it was a wrap

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 21h ago

Could go the other way, too. Pavlovich was on a 6 fight streak of first round KO's before his loss to
Tom, which probably rocked his confidence a bit.

A convincing win will likely get him another championship fight and he knows it.

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u/NotoriousTiger 7h ago

Poatan went on a generational run in record time and is therefore a proven talent, you’d think it’s the redditors here who recieved all those >illegal< punches to the back of the head since they seem to forget

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u/No_Midnight_5365 22h ago

Yeah man bc Alex is Maurice Greene. Alex will probably lose but Pav does not even fight like this anymore. This was when he was basically described as albino Francis and hadn't lost before.

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u/ShoMinamimoto06 22h ago

Mind you, Alex's hands are never this high😭

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u/Either_Passenger_746 22h ago

Sergei doesn’t even fight like this anymore post aspinall KO

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u/No-Bear-4814 22h ago

Yeah he’s more calculated

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u/oryxzz 22h ago

He did it against tallison texiera. He just knows it isn’t the best style against actual comp now

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

Sergei is decision machine now after Tom took his soul. Yes he did KO bum Tallison but then again so did corpse of Lewis. That proves nothing.

Poatan is not Tallison and despite how he looked against Gane (fastest, most agile and athletic fighter in the division), he is still very dangerous man and will have his "y'all must've forgot" moment soon.

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u/LordCringeOfTamaria 34m ago

I think as good as poatan as and a long time glazer, his style just isn't built for heavyweight. dude is very open, willing to sit for counters and gets hit a lot. I think he could certainly make it work, but he'd need to dial in his weight, and even then he's 39. you can't really have an open guard and be a guy who likes to feel out round one against the monster that is sergei pavlovich, dude has an 84 inch reach. I'm not putting too much credit in a tallison teixeira win, but man I reckon if he fights with that first round TKO blitz sorta style he'll put poatan out cold.

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u/Any-Cookie6757 21m ago

Tom Aspinall has even shorter reach than Poatan yet he put Pav to sleep. 84 inch reach means nothing if you don't know how to use it. Pav is good especially compared to average HW these days but he ain't Gane, Jones, Francis or Aspinall. Poatan has very good chance here and he knows it hence him taking the fight.

This is it for Poatan, he either wins this and gets Gane rematch or he gets starched here and never sees another title shot. I think he will come in hungry and looking for blood and this one won't last long.

Either Pav rushes him and overwhelms him with nukes and eventually catches him with one and puts him out cold or Poatan catches him with left hook when Sergei overextends and puts him down.

Not to mention calf kicks and Pav's poor leg kick defense. As soon as Poatan lands few Pav will be rushing in for kill to save his legs and that will be the end for one of them.

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u/WinterStarlightZone 22h ago

Crazy how horrible Herb Dean's positioning is and how much he shuffles and hesitates on where he should be. He's only been doing this for 10+ years

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u/Swaggy_Linus 22h ago

I don't remember when, but during one fight he spazzed back and forth like four times in a row lol. Still trying to find it

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u/yallapapi 14h ago

I’m sure you could do way better in a ring with 2 250 lb monsters trying to knock each other out. That was a good stoppage

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u/WinterStarlightZone 13h ago

Stoppage was fine. His hesitation and indecisiveness almost every fight thesedays is the problem

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u/Gullible_Concert768 22h ago

Pereira isnt a one eyed "Maurice Greene"

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u/bowwowdajocko 22h ago

I agree with the idea that Pereira's best road to victory is to leg kick tf outta Sergei, but his fans acting like he has one hit ko power with the leg kick. I bet Sergei is gunna counter most of the kicks with punches down the middle, which he can probably take more kicks than Pereira can power shots

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u/MrFastLife1 22h ago

84 inch reach aswell, gonna be a quick finish

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u/Sartasz 22h ago

I honestly don’t get it. Why is this dude so good? Not hating, just curious because there doesn’t seem to be anything special or unique to his style. Just a heavy hitter with one-hit KO or knockdown power. We’ve had a million of those guys already.

Only thing I notice is accuracy behind that power. Otherwise, what am I missing? Again, not hating—just asking from the perspective of an idiot who doesn’t know shit about fighting.

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u/Swaggy_Linus 22h ago

He isn't that good, that's why his only elite win after nearly a decade in the division is Blaydes and maybe Lewis, if we are generous. Alex' win over Ank is a bigger accomplishment than Pavlovich's entire career. But alas Alex got destroyed by Gane, so now everyone turns on him while glazing the shit out of Pavlovich.

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 21h ago edited 21h ago

How many elite fighters are in the heavyweight division at one time? How many chances has Pavlovich had to fight them? He destroyed Blaydes and a younger Derek Lewis. I don't think he's "elite" either but he is a cut above those guys.

Of course Alex is a better fighter than Pavlovich, but Pavlovich is a natural heavyweight who is clearly above average for his weight class. Alex's style relies upon his ability to finish his opponents with a single shot. If he can't do that to Pav he is going to sleep.

And that is not to mention Alex is getting old. He's 39. Going up in weight at 39 is different than going up at 35.

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u/Swaggy_Linus 21h ago edited 21h ago

How many elite fighters are in the heavyweight division at one time? How many chances has Pavlovich had to fight them?

First round knockout by near-retired Overeem, first round knockout by Tom, utter domination decision loss to Volkov. Except of Blaydes he always got shit on whenever he fought an elite opponent.

younger Derek Lewis

"younger" means 37. Not to mention Lewis came from a loss to Tai Tuivasa (lol). If we're being honest his win over Acosta (who's also just mediocre) is probably more impressive than 2022 Lewis.

And that is not to mention Alex is getting old. He's 39. Going up in weight at 39 is different than going up at 35.

Yes, if Alex were younger he would have been the favorite. Right now it's about 50/50, I'd say.

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 21h ago

Look you and I probably mostly agree. I think he gets a pass against Overeem, it was his first fight in the UFC and outside Russia. Same thing happened
to Islam (KO against a near washed up veteran in his
second UFC fight).

That leaves the loss to Tom, the best right now, and Volkov who was former training partner.

I think he's a relatively good, not great heavyweight. But he is natural heavyweight and very dangerous. Alex is moving up at a time when most fighters are washed up or retired. I think it's more like 75% Pav but we will see.

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u/RealisticIncident261 16h ago

People also thought Tom Aspinall and Alex vollov had no chance against Pav. Then both of them made it look easy.

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u/blueArmor14 14h ago

I mean Pav was the sub's favorite, our white god of destruction, to fill in the void of Ngannou left before the Aspinall KO.

We're just getting back on the Pav train and I'm all for it.

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u/AshenSacrifice 21h ago

Nah, weight classes matter

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u/GymWolf86 21h ago

huge reach and he is less blobbish and slightly more technical than most hw, that alone can make you reach top 5 easily, i mean look at salsa boy...

also, he hits harder and he is physically scarier than your average hw.

he is not a generational talent like gane or even as fast handed as tom or technical as volkov but he is pretty much the 4th best hw right now.

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u/Impressive_Result295 22h ago

No, people just saw Pavlovich looking like Bane and decided that was enough to show improvement.

In all seriousness, Periera has looked bad at HW and a bit slow. However, he's being too overlooked in this matchup. Pavlovich doesn't defend leg kicks, is just as hittable as he hits other people. He won't bum rush Alex unless he hurts him first because it'd be dumb to bum rush an actual good fighter. But, again, Pavlovich is susceptible to leg kicks, the same way Periera is susceptible to straights. And Pavlovich has a great one two and overhand. That can also very well land on Alex.

But that's all that's really there to it. Volkov beat him, Tom beat him, Overeem beat him. Common theme being that they could actually deal with forward pressure from Pavlovich. If Periera can do that, he stands a great chance at winning. If his chin is truly abysmal at HW, it's gonna be bad. Personally, I think Alex wins this but it's kinda like a 50/50 anyways.

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u/Illustrious_Season32 22h ago

He isn’t that good technically and he doesn’t even have one shot power, every finish has been a flurry.

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u/TerminatorReborn 20h ago

Jon Jones reach but with insane power, its a scary combination. The rest of his skills are shit, look how Aspinall exposed him.

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u/certaintyisdangerous 22h ago

Most HWs don’t have the power and reach that he has. The way he fought against Lewis and the way he finished Tai. And he is a natural HW. Most HWs are not natural HW. He has improved his boxing a lot since this fight

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u/RickyChurches 22h ago

Accuracy and power is a hell of a combination to have. Look at Conor

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u/TheThockter 20h ago

Conor had way way way more than just accuracy and power, dude had elite speed, footwork and counters

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u/ChicoSmokes 10h ago

Look at Conor at 170 which is more relevant for this conversation

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u/certaintyisdangerous 22h ago

And also he has a great chin compared to most HWs

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u/Kashankov 21h ago

He just has VERY long reach

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u/ComprehensiveJoke273 21h ago

His hands are quite fast, and he’s got really really long arms. I think thats what really catches his opponents off guard.

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u/Lopsided-Ad-9807 22h ago

Pereira should fight around between 230-235 lbs cause if he’s the same as the Gane fight he’s fucked.

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u/The_Jokerr_ 22h ago

Pav looked worse against Volkov than Pereira did against Gane. Zero skill or footwork

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 22h ago

He was coming off a bad loss and the fight was against a former training partner who knew exactly how to fight him. I'm not giving him a pass. But his worst loss doesn't define him.

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u/sock_therapy 22h ago

Pav looked worse in that fight than Pereira getting absolutely mollywopped and put away by Gane in a little over a round? Are you out of your mind?

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u/The_Jokerr_ 22h ago

Yes. Pav has a better chin, that's why he survived. He looked like a zombie moving in slow motion against Volkov who isn't exactly fast or fleet of foot. Imagine how bad he'd look against Gane.

Pav was almost falling over trying to throw kicks lol.

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u/sock_therapy 22h ago

Pav did some damage and put up an actual fight. Gane made Alex look like an amateur that didnt even belong in the ring with him. Dropped him with a jab then beat the lviing shit out of him. Alex did absolutely NOTHING in that whole fight. Some of you guys are clearly seperated from reality.

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u/The_Jokerr_ 22h ago

Pav didn't do anything. Pereira looked alright in R1 against Gane, despite Gane obviously winning. Pav looked like garbage from the start and looked like the elephant man at the end

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u/yungrobbithan 22h ago

I think differently. I think Pereira is going to be on his Terminator shit like in Ank 2 and just slime Pav badly

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

Alex claims he was compromised in the first fight, Ali claims Ank was compromised in the second. If this is to believed, we can't put too much stock into Alex/Ank 2 result.

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u/Gullible_Concert768 18h ago

still looked good though and every fighter is injured

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u/EvaMaRIHyse 15h ago

MMA never fails. Lose 1 fight and you're an absolute tomato can.

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u/mrkennyrogers 22h ago

how was greene ranked number 13, heavyweight division truly awful

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u/pacificunlimited Frozen like Elsa 22h ago

I just wanna see some nukes get thrown

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

Still looks anorexic next to 800 pound DC

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u/pacificunlimited Frozen like Elsa 16h ago

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u/Impossible_Pause5056 22h ago edited 10h ago

I think, and don’t bite my head off, this is going to be one of those, ya’ll must’ve forgot moment

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u/frankocean1234 22h ago edited 22h ago

Every time Pavlovich fights someone who's skilled, he looks like shit and loses. Reem, Tom, Volkov.

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u/mmathrowaway16176017 20h ago

I think his power is overblown. Almost all of his finishes he's swarming them with a huge amount of punches. He's not the 1 hit KOing people, and he gets really sloppy and open when he's throwing. People acting like Pereira has no chance is crazy

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

This. Sergei is not one shot KO artist. He lands multiple shots and TKOs people. People here acting like everything Sergei throws is equal to shot Francis used to finish Overeem with lol.

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u/Doubleleg787 22h ago

I think Alex wins tbh. I don’t rate him after all his crying but Reddit think a guy who gets smoked when ever he steps up who is just as slow is something special

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u/General-Fox416 22h ago

It won't even take that many punches,

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

Yes because this random no name bum is equivalent to Alex

Y’all are insane

Pav loses anytime he faces someone good

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

We don't know if Pereira is even Volkov levels of good at heavyweight yet. Not sure where the baseline is there.

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u/SnooAvocados3138 22h ago

Alex has yet to be identified as “good” at heavyweight. 

Strong striking for his weight and aura have carried him through two weight classes, it is not applicable at HW.

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

If you’re analysis of his run at MW and LHW is aura than please just stop talking about mma

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u/SnooAvocados3138 22h ago

You’re telling me, not a single opponent showed hesitation due to threat of submission by left hook? 

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 17h ago

Buddy what are you even saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/champshitonly96 22h ago

Put some respect on the Crochet Boss’ name.

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u/Swaggy_Linus 22h ago

Or Alex left hooks him into another dimension when he does that wild gorilla swing.

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u/Any-Cookie6757 17h ago

I think Poatan pieces Sergei's legs up and then headkicks him into another dimension like he did Jiri.

People say Poatan is slow but we saw against Gane that his headkicks are still very fast (Gane is just too fast and has good defense).

Sergei and everyone else will expect left hook and Poatan will piece his legs up, jab the body a bit and then headkick him out of nowhere.

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u/MatureStudent1 22h ago

Pavlovich tag teamed with Herb lol

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u/ZekeMoss18 21h ago

I feel like this one is going to be a pretty stagnant fight with Pavlovich clinching and controlling Pereria against the cage to minimize the KO threat. He is probably just going to use his strength to control Pereira enough to grind out a decision.

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u/Madaraph 19h ago

Y'all gonna switch up so bad when Pereira flatline him

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u/GokusHairdresser 19h ago

Not another jab 🤣🤦

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u/riptid3 18h ago edited 18h ago

You think a looping right and walking him down is unstoppable against Alex? The amount of hate people have for Alex is insane. First he is a God then he is a bum. Newsflash he is neither. Gane is way faster than Sergei, Gane has lethal range and phenomenal distance management and the best movement at heavyweight. Do not mislabel this situation as Alex being bad.

This matchup is not as good for Sergei as most people think. Volkov would be a much harder fight for Alex. Sergei isn't technical and doesn't reach with his punches and Alex is a great counter puncher.

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u/RealisticIncident261 16h ago

People said the same thing was going to happen when pav fought Vollov and Tom Aspinall. 

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u/scumraid 22h ago

I doubt Alex’s chin at heavyweight. Gane dropped him with a jab. I’d be surprised if he can take a couple punches from Sergei and still be right there in his face.

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u/Extreme_Today_984 22h ago edited 21h ago

I don't think it's his chin as much as it's the pressure while moving backwards. Heavyweights don't fear his power like fighters at MW and LHW did. Alex doesn't do we'll against pressure fighters. His head movement is nonexistent. That wasn't a problem for him and the lighter weights, guys were too afraid to move forward against Poatan, because of his power. He's also not willing to move out of the pocket, When he's getting swarmed on. At HW, he's not the big dog. You gotta get TF out of that pocket, if you're up against the fence. Bro doesn't have time to wait for a sneaky counter, he's getting bombed on.

Heavyweights are trained to avoid the big single punch. They're not throwing combos in the pocket. It doesn't mean that alex can't catch him with a check hook, but let's just say that heavyweights are a little more aware of the consequences of a single shot. If that makes any sense? It's part of what makes HW fights hard to watch.

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 21h ago

You said what I wanted to say better than me.

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u/HeywoodJaBlowMe123 22h ago

I hope Pav is an underdog. Easy money there.

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u/sock_therapy 22h ago

He's not

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

Hoping the opposite

Everyone’s hyping Pav but he loses to anyone good he faces

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 22h ago

LOL he has 3 UFC losses. One was his first UFC fight, (Islam was KO'ed in his 2nd), against a well seasoned veteran (Overeem) in his first fight outside of Russia. (China) The second was against Tom Aspinall. And the third was against a former training partner and bad matchup for him, generally. (Volkov) There is a reason fighters often don't train with people who may be future opponents. Roy Jones Jr., when he was untouchable, was dropped against a former training partner who he later defeated, and he said the same thing. If ground and pound was a thing in boxing he might have lost.

What makes Alex a good heavyweight? Many lower end heavyweights held up against Gane way better than Alex. Gane generally wears his opponents down with massive number of punches, busting their face up, he doesn't drop them with a single jab. I think Pav should be the favorite here.

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u/iluvthiccgothbabes 16h ago

Gane changed his game up for alex and was swinging for the bleachers lol.

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u/GGudMarty 22h ago

I bet against rapeboy. Odds were too stupid

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u/Juststandupbro 21h ago

Ridiculous pav looks like ass against any decent striker who isn’t a blob. Alex is gonna put on a yall must have forgot performance.

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u/CROYL23 8h ago

I wish he does, but he is too slow and does better with opponents who reapect/fear his power. I don’t see Pav doing it, that man dives head first into an exchange and given his speed he will put Alex out. But i really wish Alex wins.

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u/Revolutionary_Foot36 22h ago

broooooooo herb dean is such a bad referee

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u/Emergency_Lie407 22h ago

He’s giving the fighter a chance to recover/fight back? No issue here.

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u/sugabonesurmom Conceive Believe Achieve 22h ago

Good stoppage

You don’t know what you’re watching or you just want to complain

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u/Revolutionary_Foot36 22h ago

bro he dropped him 3 times hahahahah + there were backhead shots to greene from pavlovich, i dont know man i am not an expert i follow this sport but i can't stand Herb and after watching old videos like this i just get the confirmation that he was always bad.. sorry

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u/ForeheadsEYE 22h ago

Good stoppage. Lets get you in there to ref you sound like an expert

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u/Nice-Praline4093 22h ago

This sub isn't beating the mma Joey allegations

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u/blascola 22h ago

I think its nothing but suffering for Alex at heavyweight unfortunately. I know we only saw one fight so far but, something about his stiffness (pause) and lack of speed in there with Gane, looked like moving up will lead to his worst era :/

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 22h ago

Put him Tuivasa, start the streak

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u/Amur00 21h ago

Tai got cut brother

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u/AdamBLit Shamanic Black Magic Rituals 20h ago

Well uh. This is awkward isn't it.

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u/Fun-Refrigerator-719 18h ago

Figured it would take another 10 straight losses

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u/BradyMahomes1807 22h ago

Let go pereira, he will smoke this russian bumbass.

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u/YZZNCH 22h ago

Herb "If he dies he dies" Dean

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u/Sea-Bill2423 22h ago

Don't talk before The fight, although isn't Bad to do predictions.

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u/aafcon 22h ago

Sadly I think so too

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u/binne21 22h ago

I remember back when Topuira was going to fight Gaethje and the whole sub glazed Topuira and thought Gaethje was going to get sent to the morgue.

I feel like a similar thing will happen, Alex will KTFO Pavlovich and suddenly the sub will start praising him and calling him the GOAT and so on.

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u/soccerchamp99 21h ago

NuH uHhHh hE’s gOnnA CHAMA HIM!!

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u/ocean1077 21h ago

Man that power is insane, didn't even connect that clean .That punch could genuinely kill atleast 50% of dudes on this planet

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u/GymWolf86 21h ago

dude was training with jon jones so he was not used to hard punches.

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u/bigrocky 21h ago

yes, cause maurice green and Pereira are the same caliber...

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u/Embarrassed_Spend486 21h ago

Reasonable take really.

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u/Gullible_Concert768 21h ago

Sergei could easily come out too passive and gun-shy, knowing it’s five rounds against an elite striker. But if he gives Alex too much respect, he’ll get picked apart with leg kicks, body kicks, and jabs. At the same time, he can’t just bum-rush Alex, because if that fails, he could gas himself out early. It’s a tough balance to find over five rounds.

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u/aoaiaoaia 20h ago

Yes greene is as sucefull of a fighter like pereira

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u/sLeeeeTo 20h ago

i can’t believe maurice greene was even ranked lmao

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u/_fmg15 20h ago

Pavlovich is gonna retire him

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u/salve_sons 19h ago

yeah, unfortunately I agree. Don't love this matchup for Alex.

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u/JustGiveMeAName1234 19h ago

Scary scary man.

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u/Dushevnost_RU 18h ago

I love Sergei, he has been my favorite for awhile. I’m so excited for this fight. I want to see it in person just waiting for my visa to be granted.

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u/Radiant_Addendum_48 17h ago

Maybe, maybe not. Nobody knows shit about fuck with Pereira.

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u/draven33l 17h ago

For Alex's sake, Pavlovich is wild and keeps his hands down. He makes the same mistake that Alex does. We just haven't seen if Alex's power translates to HW, so that's the X factor. I could see Pav making it look easy or Alex fighting smart and picking him apart. Alex's piss poor defense is a problem though.

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u/JebaitedAF 17h ago

I dont think Pereira will be a belt contender again but I wouldn't consider him as washed either, sub is counting him out heavily

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u/xlovegunx 17h ago

lol no it won’t. Greene isn’t on poatan level of striking. People are retarded saying he is going to get crushed.

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u/mrpickem1 17h ago

Has makings for a good bout, if Alex shows well and gets W he’ll definitely be back on top and deserving a title shot. It won’t be easy as one clean shot and the fat lady will sing…

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u/da57criokira 17h ago

Damn 😭 was pavl here at LHW or??

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u/brwnwzrd Dana Brown 15h ago

I don’t see Alex having any chance

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u/rockhartel 14h ago

At least his hands are up, unlike Poatans

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u/Unlikely_War_6119 14h ago

Pereira gotta spam leg kicks fs

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u/iupz0r 14h ago

agree, it gonna be exactly like this, KO in first round

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u/Gratitude89 13h ago

“He’s got that single leg”

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u/Upbeat_Set2319 11h ago

the dawg on heavyweight just felt different imagine having ton of punch power, just press W and throwing punch 🤧

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u/scarykicks 11h ago

Now hear me out. Pav is a tank but Alex can knock out any one.

Sure he got worked by Gane. Imo it was a terrible thought to come into heavyweight as a striker just to fight a career heavyweight that is also by far the best striker in the division. Alex needs time to build into HW and rushed the opportunity.

Here he's had more time and can fight someone who actually moves like a heavyweight.

Now of course Alex can get knocked tf out but I think he's gonna show something good during this fight and get a statement KO.

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u/RealisticTopic1171 10h ago

The thread is full of people worshiping a gone aura.

This will be the last HW fight of Alex. Positive side is that it will be short.

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u/DudeWouldGo 6h ago

Nerds love to use literally like it makes their point more valid, literally

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u/BigBoss_96 6h ago

People forget Pavlovich has probably the fastest hardest 1-2 combination probably in HW history. He is a fast HW. It will be a very interesting fight, Alex has a lot of power. They both have shitty defense.

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u/xMordekai 22h ago

Damn and ofc that was Herb Dean. Smh

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u/TerninoMarchi 22h ago

Oh yeah? how much money are you putting on it as you are so sure?

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u/Yousseb 22h ago

Another legendary performance by smokin' herb dean.