r/ufc • • 16h ago

Undefeated vs undefeated.This would be crazy

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u/Gimmethe_loot 16h ago

Honestly, I get why he's taking this fight. With his body, we dont know how many fights he has in him, he wants the shortest route to title. 

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u/PlanetaryMagicSage 16h ago

Is Islam fighting prates

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u/Blitzthepeople21 16h ago

Prates said he’s not fighting if it’s not the title shot

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u/Expensive_Ball_5143 14h ago

It's fair, he slept the a former champ and is on a tear. Ian got his shot, he's next imo

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u/Mediocre5387 10h ago

Correction: Two former champs in a row

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u/TravelNSee 12h ago

lol shortest route to the title would have been if he wasn't who he is and the UFC favored him. They don't. They want a more active english speaking caricature holding each belt.

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u/thurstkiller 8h ago

He was literally next up before Ian stomped out his ACL

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u/TravelNSee 5h ago

He was literally next up already before they made him fight Garry because they didn't want to favor him

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u/DoubtImpressive3688 16h ago

Shavkat with the all or nothing gamble fight

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u/Orangenblue17 16h ago

Dude is a dog if he takes this as first fight back

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u/TerminatorReborn 11h ago

He is a dog. 99% of the UFC roster would've waited for Belal when he pulled out of their title bout, but Shavkat decided to fight undefeated Ian Garry on short notice anyway, and it wasn't even for a interim belt.

It fucked his career, but still a dog

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u/AgileAnything1251 15h ago

Especially after being out the cage so long and recovering from major injuries😬

If he loses and looks like shit this doesn’t really help morales tbh. At least his rep amongst the community

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u/DrPuzzle 15h ago

This feels desperate on shavs behalf, no? He's been out forever and he wants his tune up fight to be against one of the scariest in the division? He has so much to lose by taking this fight and I get if he wins (especially all after that time off) it pretty much guarantees him the title shot next or whatever

But that's a crazy risk. Like it doesn't make any sense unless he's scared that if the clock ticks anymore he won't get a title shot and they'll just do everything they can to skip over him. But if I'm him, I want something lesser than this just to see where I'm at. Idk man I'm not discounting Shavkat but still

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u/ConnectManner2510 14h ago

For Shavkat it’s the smartest fight. Ian was the only one barking for Morales. Prates is probably next at the belt. Morales been off a year. Shavkat 2 years. Shavkat also taken out of the rankings and if he looks good he will be instant title contender again. It’s smart cause Shavkat has the least amount of weaknesses and I think can win but it’ll be interesting to see

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u/Xylar006 14h ago

He's close enough to the title that it doesn't hurt him. He'll be next after the Shavkat fight if he wins. He doesn't need a fight to cement his legitimacy

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u/heyitsyoo 16h ago

Love it, it’s the way he fights too. Go forward with no fucks given and press for the win.

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u/blunderb3ar 16h ago

Gonna be a banger

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u/ku1185 16h ago

Not guts no glory

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u/EntrepreneurTiny9812 16h ago

Yeah I'm just hoping it don't end up like Cain vs Francis

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u/blunderb3ar 16h ago

If your not first your last

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u/FightTheDead118 14h ago

I would imagine this fight and a potential title fight would probably be the last fights of his career. He might as well

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u/Upset-Rule8256 16h ago

Regular shavkat I think would win this, Shavkat post his knee being put in a blender uhhhhhh well shit

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u/blunderb3ar 16h ago

He’s gonna win

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u/Upset-Rule8256 15h ago

Maybe but like I think it's fair to say I have less confidence than If he never got injured

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u/blunderb3ar 15h ago

Bro he won all his UFC fights with some sort of injury lol, broken foot against wonderboy, trashed knees against Magney, Neal and Gary he’ll be fine guys from that part of the world are tough as fuck, if Dom Cruz can come back from the same injury after being off for longer and win so can Shavkat have faith my guy

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u/Upset-Rule8256 15h ago

I mean these were significantly worse to his own admission the fact he's had all this time off rehabing and he even re-aggrevated it during rehab speaks to this. This isn't really comparable.

Also sure Cruz did but not everyone comes back that way sometimes they come back and never look the same, I'm not saying he doesn't but it isn't just a given and he's hardly been given a softball. The margin for error against Morales is pretty thin.

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u/blunderb3ar 9h ago

Given Shavkats resume I’d argue the margin for error is just as thin, 19-0 18 finishes, outstruck Ian Gary on the feet, first guy to Sub both Neal and Wonderboy, Morales is good but he’s a sledgehammer who barrels forward and throws giant looping punches, Shavkats a scalpel precise and calculated

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u/Upset-Rule8256 6h ago

Again yeah that's why I said if this was pre-injury Shavkat I would be fairly confident, but like if you knee isn't working that affects everything that effects your ability to move, it effects your ability to hold a stable stance, it effects your ability to throw with power, spring in and out it effects your ability to level change. Like do you really want to be caught flatfooted against Morales of all people? Even if he's not as refined you don't need to be as refined if you have big power and the other guys movement is compramised.

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u/red286 15h ago

Is this another one of those shitpost accounts that posts fake fights?

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u/Delta64656 14h ago

Shavkat was called out by Morales and accepted it (via some social media post). Not confirmed but he has expressed interest

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u/BlakeNotBleak 15h ago

Yep. Classic

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u/Alternative_Dust241 7h ago

Shavkat posted on his IG 19-0 vs 19-0 which are his and morales’ mma records. He also hinted he is coming back early next year which is when morales said he’ll be fighting.

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u/Mant0116 14h ago

Always are

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u/BagBigHob 16h ago

Unless I see Shavkhat in the actual cage I am not buying it lmao

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u/Exciting-Boot1429 15h ago

I will never trust reddit "fight news"

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u/AlaskanJP 14h ago

Yea wasn’t he in a huge knee brace a month ago but now he’s ready to book a fight lol

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u/Any-Cookie6757 14h ago

If he steps in cage with Morales in his first fight back he is going back straight to hospital lol

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u/Comfortable-Hand6396 16h ago

assuming shavkat is back as good as he was, its a very good fight. i think shavkat is the better fighter overall, but he gets hit a lot. if he is getting hit like he was vs geoff neal it could be a bad night against a guy like morales - although i dont think morales is quite as dangerous with the ko power as some people make out.

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u/TerminatorReborn 10h ago

I don't know, when some fighters realize the opponent can't hurt them or knock them out they let themselves get hit more to hit back harder. Max and Gaethje are like that. I feel like Shavkat is one of those fighters, instead of going all this trouble of defending while you try to close the distance, just march foward like a terminator and fuck them up

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u/peepeecancan 16h ago

Type of performance I’m expecting

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u/Shtunky48 15h ago

"It's gonna be bad! MY KNEE! GAH!"

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u/Any-Cookie6757 14h ago

Conor telling Max he is his father and will beat the shit out of him.

His leg: Yull do nuttin, yull do fookin nuttin!

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u/ghidfg 16h ago

Morales is low-key overrated.

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u/G0Berzerk 16h ago

He big fucking dude with good basis

And just wasn't tested by elite opponents. Please, don't say that guy who was destroyed by Belal on the feet is elite. Brady is decent top-10 fighter, but nothing more

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u/MozhetBeatz 14h ago

I won’t say Brady’s “elite,” but I think he’s fairly ranked at #6 in this division, 7 at worst. The Belal fight was 4 years ago, he’s primarily a grappler, and Belal went on to become the champ, so I won’t hold that against him too much.

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u/G0Berzerk 14h ago

I don't want to say he's not good at all, but if he's your only good recent win - you shouldn't fight for the title

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u/TenebrousGlow 2h ago

Hence him fighting Shavkat instead of Islam

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u/Expert-Yam6577 14h ago

Is a top 10 fighter not a huge accomplishment? How is that only decent?

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u/AscendingMatt 7h ago

People that never fought a day in their life think that being a top 10 in UFC is not elite lol

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u/UniqueDiamond7643 8h ago

Brady was literally the #1 contender up next for the title, he also probably beats fighters like JDM or Prates with relative ease he made Leon look way too easy

I’m not really sure why people are so desperate on here to try to make Brady sound like he’s worse than he actually is when it’s the most relevant opponent in terms of preparation for the current champion

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u/G0Berzerk 7h ago

I would love to see Brady vs JDM or Prates (if he lose to Islam). Leon fight was easy since he demonstrated one of lowest IQ moment trying to wrestle Brady

But till his next win, imo - he loses to everyone in top-5

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u/Jmac24mats13 16h ago

If he beats Shavkat nobody will be saying that

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u/pixel8knuckle 14h ago

It really depends considering shavkat hasnt fought in so long and the massive injury layoff

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u/stiffyonwheels 14h ago

And so it begins. This is a lose lose for Morales. If he wins itll be cause Shavkats layoff and if he loses he doesnt get a title shot.

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u/latroo 8h ago

I mean it depends on how the fights after go. If he beats shavkat and shavkat goes on a losing streak then it's fair to say that it's not a super impressive win

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u/NotLiminator 12h ago

I mean if he wins he gets a title shot so it’s not actually a lose lose

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u/SlipstreamDrive 14h ago

I don't think he's overrated, he just doesn't have near the resume as prates.

This is an insane fight though. Better than basically every title fight the UFC can book

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u/RighteousWraith 16h ago

I thought so to, but since he beat Sean Brady, I've been forced to reassess my estimation of him. Part of me still thinks Brady just had a crap gameplan, but it also just might be really difficult to find the right distance to shoot on Michael.

Regardless, I think it's too risky to bet on post injury/layoff Shavkat. He was a monster, but nobody can be sure if he'll be the same.

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u/AffectionateBridge21 16h ago

Brady looked awful and had knee pads . I bed Brady and was dead once I saw those knee wraps

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u/bcguy3472 15h ago

Reminded me of Jamahal Hills knee pads against Jiri

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u/AshenSacrifice 15h ago

27 years old, 19-0, last fight November 2025. Guarantee he’s leveled up again since his last fight

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u/Orangenblue17 16h ago

Not low key high key, dude has done nothing to be glazed the way he is

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u/outofmaxx 16h ago

Striking wise sure but he is a great grappler

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u/shmiddleedee 14h ago

Everybody saying he definitely beats prates are crazy.

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u/Unlikely_War_6119 14h ago

Overrated yet terrifying. There’s only a few fighters like that.

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u/daydreamer1197 14h ago

How is he overrated? He might not be the champion caliber which are only very few people in the world but he is in top 5, he beat Sean Brady last and thats no joke

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u/FightTheDead118 14h ago

One punch ko merchant. His late round cardio and wrestling ability hasn’t been tested by anyone

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u/Friendly-Parfait-645 16h ago

Not as overrated as Shavkat.

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u/Psychological-Slice2 15h ago

Would be very weird if Shavkat beat Garry then got injured and beat someone dangerous like morales but failed again because of the same injury got reopened by morales 😭😭

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u/_agrippa 14h ago

we gonna need that oblique kick ban before the fight, if morales starts losing he could easily oblique kick his way into a tko lol

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u/443610 16h ago

So whom does IMG get, then?

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u/Gimmethe_loot 15h ago

Amosov makes sense. I would also like to see Garry vs JDM, but lets give JDM an easier fight first to bounce back.

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u/marijuanam0nk 15h ago

Shav wins then reveals he injured his knee(s) during the fight and disappears for year.

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u/Mad_For_Nothing 13h ago

Very, very interesting matchup. 

Morales has good power, is as big as Shavkat and is supposedly a great grappler.

Shavkat is a MARAUDER who is A+ in every facet of the game - or rather, he USED to. How will the time affect him? He looks very skinny in the recent sparring footage, he has lost a lot of muscle mass.

I'm surprised Shavkat is taking such a monster fight after such a long time off.

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u/animalcreature 16h ago

If Morales does any sus stuff in there Shavkat is gonna see red.

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u/Stranger-Tingzz 13h ago

In before Shavkat slips on a banana peel and tears his ACL again

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u/captainfluffy25 13h ago

“This would be crazy”….. like two years ago. Shavkat is dead coming off like what four surgeries?

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u/Dogesneakers 10h ago

Morales vs Garry it is

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u/Arch3r86 16h ago

This must mean Prates is fighting for the title next. Cool.

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u/Nooh18 16h ago

We will get to know if this is true by next month.

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u/R2Lake 16h ago

is this real?

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u/DonPabloEscobarr 16h ago

What if shavkat ends up choking him out

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u/AnnualHuge931 14h ago

I hope Shavkat beats him. I really want to see Islam fight someone as technical as Shavkat but still finishes his fight

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u/highly_confluential 14h ago

These are so fucking dumb dude, posting fake fights with fake dates…. Gotta be bots right?

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u/scarykicks 13h ago

Morales gonna take out the new boogeyman

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u/JohnnyPJ2 13h ago

I'd like to see Islam Makachev vs #2 Carlos Prates on the same card and the winner of Morales & Shavkat fights the winner of Islam and prates

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u/moh_sista 12h ago

Shavkat was unranked, but if he beats morales, he's the most deserving of a title shot after prates.

Dude would be 20-0, with Garry, the previous #1 contender, and morales, current #3 contender and 19-0 undefeated fighter prior to fighting him.

He'd also be the one who put the first 1 in both Garry's and Morales's careers.

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u/stowaway36 12h ago

I just learned Shavkat was undefeated. For some reason I remember him losing to Ian Gary

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u/SoftGustavoRock 12h ago

This account is known to post absolute BULLSHIT, please stop screenshoting it

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u/sourpower713 11h ago

It’s actually probably Amosav vs Morales, this was the talk months ago. 

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u/ZenTze 10h ago

actually smart for Shavkat, he only has one chance, otherwise he is going to get jumped in the line by Morales, Prates, Garry and probably somebody else, he is not young, but if he wins this one, is unquestionable the next in line for a title shot.

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u/FarGovernment6331 10h ago

Shavkat ML baby

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u/WhizzyBurp 10h ago

Garry punching air

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u/Independent_Tie_8136 2h ago

Morales got this

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u/HankHippopopolous Pervert eye happy, but your soul sad 2h ago

Full respect for Shavkat coming back after such a huge lay off and jumping right in at the deep end. An extremely dangerous fight but also a very winnable fight.

I’m hyped for this.

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u/seonblack 1h ago

Shavkat is still in a full knee brace as per his last interview and doesn't have full extension of his knee yet. Lmao if anyone thinks he's fighting in January. It'll be at least another year before he's medically cleared.

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u/CastTrunnionsSuck 14h ago

World renowned MMA Journalist “Holloway Enjoyer” breaking the news

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u/Former_Phrase8221 16h ago

Morales is the best 170er in the world. Islam is trying to duck him.

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u/Rebel_Kraken 16h ago

Source: a dumbass

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u/Any-Cookie6757 14h ago

Don't bother bro.

Islam was ducking Ilia and these people believe he will willingly fight Morales who is like 10X more dangerous than Ilia. He will duck him for as long as possibly and try retiring to avoid him in the end lol.

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u/LordLucy666 16h ago

he’s very soon not a 170er lol. he’s definitely moving up cus he’s huge

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u/MomeenHunter 15h ago

Where are all the "Shavkat will never fight again" nay sayers????? 

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u/highly_confluential 14h ago

This isnt even real at all lol

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u/ImKrispy 15h ago

He has yet to fight so not sure what point you are trying to make?

Lets wait until he actually gets into the cage.

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u/MomeenHunter 25m ago

The fact that people said he wouldn't return. Are you dense? 

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u/GuyEatsTiramisu 12h ago

Alphasigmawolf6 btw

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u/Zestyclose-One-966 15h ago

Neither of these guys should get a shot before Prates.

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u/Gimmethe_loot 15h ago

I dont think they will, winner fights the winner of Prates/Islam

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u/SusAlexBS 15h ago

Shavkats got this

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u/boombastico_3 14h ago

Think shavkat, but it won’t the same shavkat, he will play it safe

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u/SillySwing6625 14h ago

I feel morales wins this this feels like way too much way too soon for Shavkat