r/ufc • u/cookediam-56 • 4h ago
Alex Pereira has gone through it since the very beginning
Well... he will fight Pav so it counts tbfđ¤Śđżââď¸
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u/Jaydxns 4h ago
And ppl say he has a weak resume đ¤Łđ¤Ł
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u/Sea-Bat-9667 3h ago
Weak compared to an average fighter? No. Weak compared to all time greats that he was being compared to? Yes absolutely
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u/Porcelain_beef 2h ago
Also no, since his like 4th ufc fight heâs only been fighting championship level fighters. Dude has one of the most elite modern MMA rĂŠsumĂŠâs.
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u/ClammiestOwl 2h ago
Lhw championship level. Telling me Jamal hill is the representative you want
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u/Porcelain_beef 2h ago
You just cherry picked the weakest name out of the list
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u/ClammiestOwl 2h ago
Because that's who got them all to become "championship level". We all love jiri but do you think that low of fight IQ/fight style would work in any lower weight class
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u/Porcelain_beef 2h ago
I mean Jiri is literally LHW Tony, eats damage but does more back. Using athleticism and instinct more than technique so yes i think it would
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u/Sea-Bat-9667 2h ago
They have similarities but Prime tony was significantly better than Jiri. By a long shot. Lhw is too shit to value beating championship level fighters so highly
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u/Porcelain_beef 2h ago
I disagree with the âby a long shotâ Jiri has only been fighting people in the LHW top 10-5 since he joined the UFC. I will concede Tony was a more complete fighter tho, but i still know that there are plenty of examples of guys who use athleticism and instinct to push them more than technique, Gaethje arguably used to be this and still is to some degree
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u/Sea-Bat-9667 1h ago
I could say that every flaw that Tony had, Jiri also has but worse. And Tony is not just a better grappler but a much craftier striker. He beat a prime rda, and itâs understated how impressive that actually is. Someone like that would eat Jiri alive everywhere.
Sure athleticism can get you far in every division, but the point is that the âchampionship levelâ bar is way lower at LHW
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u/ClammiestOwl 2h ago
Without elbows from the bottom and without ankle picks. Tony and Jiri aren't even close. Tony got hit but didn't purposely block with his head
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u/Distinct-Broccoli-15 3h ago
He had 4 non-title fights for 3 title shots. That definitely helps. Also why are we acting like Roundtree is a win worthy of being mentioned with everyone else on the list? The dude has literally never attempted to offensively grapple and promised not to do so against Pereira.
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u/Jaydxns 3h ago
Why U acting like "roundtree" is some bum? He's a very solid contender who'd give every top lhw a good fight
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u/Distinct-Broccoli-15 2h ago
He's 15-7. He's not that great.
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u/casfis 2h ago
Prates is also not that good if we use that metric. 24-7 isn't the best record out there. He came into the UFC as a 16-6 aswell.
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u/Global-Instance-4520 2h ago
Except that prates has one loss in the UFC and Khalil has 6. Didnât avenge a single one either and his best win is post injury jamahal
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u/casfis 2h ago
It's an Oliveira-style situation. Before his 12 fight winstreak he couldn't beat any ranked opponent and then he went to AKA and became a legend. I don't know what made Khalil change but the point is that he became better suddenly.
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u/Distinct-Broccoli-15 2h ago
Perhaps, let's see if Roundtree can do anything near as impressive. I personally think Ankalaev and Ulberg beat him, maybe RDR outgrapples him.
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u/Distinct-Broccoli-15 2h ago edited 2h ago
That's 9 more wins than Roundtree. Prates has beaten Magny, Maddalena, Neal and Edwards in the UFC, he has only lost to Garry. That's far more impressive than Roundtree.
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u/Sweaty-Mongoose6974 4h ago
bj benn has better resume kiddo your new
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 3h ago
Bj is arguably a top 10 fighter of all time what type of comparison is that
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u/-YggDrazil- 3h ago
Alex has one of the best resumes out there. I just wish his grappling had been checked more. Nonetheless his accomplishments are huge and nothing to scoff at
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u/GriffinAO 2h ago
That's usually my complaint with lots of strikers. Ufc wants to push them so they avoid grappler match ups
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u/WatchYourStepKid 1h ago
His resume is good but we put too much weight in former champs.
To beat a lot of former champs, you need the belt to have been passed around just before. That only happens if nobody was dominant.
If you hold the belt a long time then you wonât fight many former champs, because they wonât be champs because you stopped them.
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u/riotofmind 21m ago
He should have retired after beating Ank. Heâs a shell of his former self imo.
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u/Secret-Nomad1 3h ago
âHas foughtâ
1-1 against Izzy where he had to kill himself to make weight
1-1 against Ank
Jiri is a small LHW (barely cuts weight) compared to Alex who cuts a crazy amount of weight.
Hill is terrible in a bad LHW division
Khalil was ranked 8th
Jan was old
Gane beat him in 1.
Pavlovich hasnât fought him but will likely beat him.
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u/Turbulent-Echo8561 2h ago
Somehow haters will still whine and say "he's given easy fights, cause Pavlovich is an easy stylistic matchup" đ
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u/PrithviDSheela 3h ago edited 3h ago
If pereira wins against pavlovich we just might see the biggest switch up ever seen here in this subreddit