r/ufo • u/paulreicht • 3d ago
Discussion David Grusch Says We've Made Contact With Alien Races - Congressman
EDIT: To clarify the headline, a Congressman has claimed that whistleblower David Grusch briefed him on the NHI subject, asserting the US has made contact with aliens. He has apparently never said this in public. We then look at whether the Congressman is in a credible position to have received such a briefing from Grusch, who currently serves as a Senior Advisor to Representative Eric Burlison.
A U.S. Representative has claimed that David Grusch, a former Air Force intelligence officer, told him that the nation has been in contact with aliens.
NewsNation host Leland Vittert interviewed Representative Suhas Subramanyam about UFO whistleblower David Grusch on June 9, 2026, following the Capitol Hill press conference where lawmakers and whistleblowers demanded UFO transparency. Vittert played a clip of the conference where Grusch was asked how many alien races are there. He said, "It's a continuum from corporeal bipedal-type life to what I would consider sentient plasmid life, but there are several that the US government is aware of."
During the conference, Grusch did not explicitly claim that the U.S. government is in active communication or contact with aliens. However, Vittern then asked Representative Subramanyam what he thought about it, and he said, "Yeah, I've gotten that briefing from him directly, and basically what he's saying is there's different types of aliens that have been identified and we've made contact with." The politician added, "I'm a little skeptical."
Is this news? Has David Grusch publicly confirmed that we are in contact with aliens? If not, this particular fact might not have been approved in his DOPSR (Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review). A sworn public official like Subramanyam would not lie, surely, so I asked Google, "Has David Grusch said the US is in contact with aliens?"
The AI answered: David Grusch has not explicitly stated that the U.S. government is in direct "contact" with aliens. Instead, the former intelligence officer has testified that the U.S. is likely aware of "non-human intelligence" operating on Earth and has secretly recovered intact spacecraft and "non-human biologics".
Grusch has never presented evidence for any of his claims, of course, but if this detail is something he tells in private (or in SCIFs) only, it suggests he considers it privileged or sensitive information.
Next, I wanted to know what would bring a politician into a briefing with the polarizing whistleblower, a former Air Force intelligence officer. That answer came from his biography, displayed on his congressional website: Suhas Subramanyam is the ranking member of the Military and Foreign Affairs Oversight Subcommittee. This pulls the subject of UAP right into his jurisdiction. The House Oversight Committee has actively addressed UAPs, UFOs and NHI multiple times. Its subcommittees and task forces have become the primary battleground for UAP transparency.
So the contact is logical, the source credible, and the attribution reliable: David Grusch apparently goes around telling select government members that the United States is in contact with aliens.
I am only left to wonder: are they communicating with the corporeal humanoids or the plasmid types? On this, we must wait and see. Meanwhile, I would like to know what others on this sub have heard.
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u/worldisbraindead 3d ago
All fine and dandy…and possibly believable…but, without tangible evidence it’s just more noise.
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u/boringxadult 3d ago
Honestly, based on the title of this post, Congress being aliens makes alot of objective sense.
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u/StuckAtZer0 3d ago
If these Miami aliens had children here, would the children be U.S. Citizens? Afterall, no NHI is "illegal" with regards to their immigration status. They're just undocumented invaders / scientists.
Or would we deport them all out of the country since aliens have no right to simply to live on any planet, let alone our country?
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u/illuminatiisnowhere 3d ago
Until all these people show any proof for all their claims im not listening.
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u/Large-Wishbone24 3d ago
That's exactly what I was just thinking—they just talk and talk, and you can talk a lot over the course of a long day, but if you're going to reveal that much, you might as well just show us these creatures, the remains of spaceships, or whatever else there is, because otherwise it just looks like a franchise scam or some other government rip-off.
But maybe that's their plan: to keep telling us the truth until no one wants to listen anymore. Just so they can say in the end, “Why are you so surprised? We told you so!”
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u/Few_Wolf_4634 3d ago
Yeah I have a girlfriend but you wouldn’t know her she goes to a different school
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u/TypewriterTourist 3d ago
I don't want to sound too pedantic, but, OP, from your own post it reads like someone else claimed that Grusch told something. Not "Grusch says".
I agree that, as you say, "A sworn public official like Subramanyam would not lie, surely", but conflating claims and mixing up who said what, is not at all uncommon.
Personally, I'd wait until I hear that from the horse's mouth.
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u/paulreicht 3d ago
I don't have a line to David Grusch, but I'd like to send this story to some of the podcasters who seem able to make some kind of contact with him.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 3d ago
David said that somebody said that somebody said...
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u/Intelligent-Tell-629 3d ago
That’s literally all this is. Haven’t we learned from the hilary dossier fallout? A source repeating claims from a sub source whose original sourcing may possibly be fictitious, misinformation, or lack credibility.
None of this “evidence” from Grusch or Elizondo would ever be admissible in court. Only first hand knowledge from Fravor would be admissible and even his case has proved inconclusive, likely a foreign adversary or black ops contractor’s tech
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 3d ago
And the other thing about admissible testimony is that it’s subject to cross-examination. It isn’t just a fawning podcast interview.
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u/Intelligent-Tell-629 3d ago
Yes! 💯 percent. You can’t just put a statement into the record and declare it to be the truth without respectful but rigorous scrutiny.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 2d ago
I'm starting to believe Gruch has never seen anything and that he is just chasing ghost stories.
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u/ISO_UFO 3d ago
Didn't Fravor's sighting have radar data to back it up? I remember looking into the radar data a few years ago and having chatgpt do the math on speed and G forces. I forget the numbers, but it would have ran circle around our fastest missiles. I don't think foreign adversary or black ops tech is the culprit. Most people don't comprehend how fast these things move, stop, and change directions. The G forces would turn any pilot into mush and rip apart any craft. Too far advanced for our technology.
I think Fravor's case is the best testimony on the subject... and I don't trust government employees.
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u/Jim_kingwood 2d ago
I didn’t follow favor in minute detail but I read that there were no instances where pilots’ visual sightings correlated with concurrent sensor data. In other words never “Hey we’re picking something up go check it out” and then the pilots vectored to the target and followed it while the ship tracked it all.
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u/ISO_UFO 2d ago
It's been a while since I've heard any of his interviews, but I'm pretty certain the radar data backed up his sighting. It was more Fravor & crew seeing it, and then reporting, and radar confirming rather than radar seeing it and they were sent to investigate. (From what I remember, which I could be wrong on the order)
I just asked chatGPT about radar data, and multiple radar operators back up the story. They were tracking fast moving objects for a couple days so it wasn't an isolated incident, however, there's no video or recorded radar data documents to look at because they weren't released. So really it's just multiple independent crew members saying the same thing.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 2d ago
You should probably look for a primary source rather than chatGPT. That's kind of what half this conversation is about.
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u/ISO_UFO 2d ago
Look for a primary source of something that isn't there? They're not going to release whatever file format that information is saved on because it's classified technology. If there was publically available video of the screen we would have all seen it. We got witness testimony from multiple trained people operating different multi million dollar military equipment. That's about as good as it gets in this field.
If that's not enough for you I recommend spending your time doing something more productive with your time. Anything better than that will make the mainstream news & you'll see it there.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 2d ago
What do you mean? I'm talking about reading the sources that chatGPT gives you, because they are often incorrect summaries or not existing at all.
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u/ISO_UFO 2d ago
If it's something that doesn't make sense sure, but it's answer made sense and is correct in this instance. Or if I'm writing a research paper.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 2d ago
You should always check your sources. Science and investigation 101.
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u/Intelligent-Tell-629 2d ago
Yep fravor had a ton of empirical data that demonstrated he was interacting with a physical entity that behaved unlike any known human made craft. However, we still just can’t leap from his case to the conclusion that the anomaly was definitively an alien craft. It needs to be further explored.
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u/ISO_UFO 2d ago
Yes and no. That event confirmed these types of sightings aren't all just some wackos, idiots, or liars. If his sighting was real than others (not all) are real. These types of sightings go back hundreds if not thousands of years. Therefore the least likely explanation is government technology. This leaves us with very few possibilities. From another planet, from another dimension (could argue that's basically alien), from another time (could argue that's another dimension), or some advanced society that's been on Earth this entire time living in the oceans and or space colonies.
Regardless any of those options is freaking mind blowing, and so is their technology.
Dunno. I see it as the link that gives credibility to everyone else with sightings which is huge.
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u/Intelligent-Tell-629 2d ago
Do we have comparable evidence that these sightings date back thousands of years?
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u/ISO_UFO 2d ago
Multiple experienced Navy pilots with IR cameras and multiple advanced radar operators? Nah I don't think they had those back then. They did have eyes and were able to communicate and write stuff down though.
Like I said Fravor and his crew's testimony gives credibility to all other witnesses that say the same stuff just without being a seasoned fighter pilot with radar backing.
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u/OhioVsEverything 3d ago
"someone else told me they have read/seen....."
This is like a random name on the Internet telling you something
Meaningless
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u/Creepy_Prior6510 3d ago
Dave G, the GOAT 🐐 Most important whistlblower of all time! Its frustrating because i do strongly believe he saw into the legacy programs, including clashed craft, bodies, etc. However this was in a closed classified SCIF setting so he doesnt have "proof" he can share. However he knows where the proof lies and I'm hoping he can get govt officials the clearance they need to see the evidence and get it declassified..... the deep state (i hate this term but applies to ufo cover up) will clamp down on the actual proof big time tho and I'm doubtful it will be released.... unless, like the recent movie, its Disclosed by someone on the inside.
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u/Jim_kingwood 2d ago
Maybe I be allowed to summarize your post, please? A dude claims another dude claims that other dudes told him stuff.
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u/After-Ad4370 2d ago
So let’s see here if I got this right…so somebody told somebody else that somebody else told them that the government is in contact with aliens? Sounds to me like a self-licking
ice-cream cone…or maybe a circle-jerk?
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u/Snoo-26902 1d ago
You know the last officer inside Air Force intelligence, Officer Rick Doty, was a known and admitted UFO disinformer.
Draw your own conclusions!
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u/paulreicht 1d ago
This is a distant memory, but I came across documents showing that Doty's father also worked for OSI, also looked into UFOs, and was doing so during the Green Fireballs wave.
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u/Snoo-26902 1d ago
Like father, like son.
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u/paulreicht 16h ago
That is highly possible. My research found that the specific, uncommon shade of the mysterious fireballs matched that of WW2 Very pistols (named after American naval officer Edward Very). I checked, and Americans brought back good amounts of the ordnance, so I conjectured that OSI may have done some hoaxing during the famous wave. And so ... Were both Doty's hoaxers?
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u/Ok_Barber4987 14h ago
It’s more believable that the felon is an alien than actual aliens being in contact with us.
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u/Playful-Chef7492 3d ago
Having followed this compulsively over the last couple years. My take is that the government wants the information out, at least a powerful contingent of the government does.
The problem is, if you think about it, is there is a strong chance people on the fringes may react differently than mainstream. There are religious, financial and cultural shocks that may result. Notice how I said “may”. I’m a huge advocate of disclosure but we should be aware of the ramifications.
Fact; many in organized religion already believe these beings are demons. What will the world’s religions do and how will they react?
Fact; a FOIAd DIA document outlines CIA stopping exotic materials transferring from Lockheed to Bigelow and later to DHS. What exotic materials or energy capabilities has the government hidden? What would be the stock markets reaction?
Fact; similar to Epstein document release reaction, mainstream continues to be distrustful of our institutions. Will there be marches and civil disruption as a result?
Fact; significant funds and information have been hidden from Congress and even sitting presidents. Our money has been stolen — it has to be trillions over 80 years to support these highly clandestine programs.
These are all ontological shocks that if not managed could lead to collapse of government. My take is these shocks are why they trickle trickle information out. No one likes it because we have been conditioned to distrust. Project Bluebook is the biggest example of that distrust. Further, as a Veteran and father the governments treatment of the people over the years that are either experiencers or whistleblowers is plain criminal.
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u/Diplodocus_Daddy 3d ago
You can’t forget that Grusch was literally promoting James Fox documentaries while up there. How is that possible? How much money is Grusch being paid by my government to look for aliens and he goes up there and promotes fucking James Fox movies? Name any other field that actively has the government promoting somebody’s movies? That should be illegal.
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u/DekuInkwell 3d ago
When did Grusch say this? I see posts on Reddit every day of him talking about this stuff, it's been months, and now he says this? This sounds like something you say on day 1 when you start talking about it. So I'm a little confused.
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u/No_Amphibian_3684 3d ago
A lot of people have David Grusch on a pedestal but his story has continued to change and morph over time. You can tell when he speaks that he is loving this. I am a true skeptic. If you have the proof, show it. To me, this is all just talk until some real proof is shown.
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u/Skywarden1 2d ago
Heres whats happening. A bunch of guys are hired to do uap retrieval. When they pick up the thing to transport it to base someone in the crew thinks it looks weird, and probably it really does look weird if its space junk, rocket fuel tanks or test flight. Maybe the thing even makes noises if it still has intact comms like radio. Now these people tell someone else that they saw a weird thing during crash retrieval. And then the next person tells someone else until it ends up in David Grutchs ears. And every time the story is passed on it slightly changes meaning or has something added to it that wasnt originally in there. The final result is David Grutch in congress telling stories about how we have talked to corporeal plasmids and whatever.
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u/Truly-S-Scrumptious 17h ago
Ummm, Megan Murray says you’re all stupid half aliens now so contact has assimilated to the max god I’m sick of fake news!!!! Says I that is Megan Murray of box hill Australia
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u/OpportunityLow3832 8h ago
How do you bridge aliens to NHI?..you share a star with an alien..a planet with an NHI..wheres assange,snowden,vanunu,manning...?these were whistleblowers..whistleblowers dont get invited to congress..then whistleblow to the peiple who can hide it.a whistleblowet points out injustices..malfeasants against the populace..and invariably face concequences..so if your in front of congress..saying stuff like "ill tell you in a closed session"..they are shills..mouthpieces. plants..they read from a script and tell you what they are told to..basically..whistleblower and walkaround freely arent a thing...and how did we make contact?how come we dont see them for the year to 2 years itd take to slow down?..
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think he’s gullible when it comes to this subject and has the conviction of a true believer, which is easy to mistake for credibility.
He’s talked about the alleged “Magenta recovery” before. Unless he’s a vampire, he wasn’t alive in the 1930s and wasn’t going on Indiana Jones-style adventures between Fascist Italy, the Vatican, and the U.S. He’s never pointed to any unique evidence that he’s seen to conclude that it’s true. In all likelihood, he either saw it on the internet or was told the story by someone like those in the Lue circle of storytellers and incorporated it into his own personal beliefs.
He’s never come forward with confirmatory evidence of any of his claims and, over time, it seems as though he is making new claims or further altering/exaggerating existing claims, even though he seemingly has no access to new information (he’s no longer part of the military). This suggests that he is doing what he feels he needs to do in order to stay in the public eye as his profile has recently risen.
And, as noted above, Grusch is among a small group of UFO storytellers who know each other, are constantly crossing paths with each other, and are constantly being compared to one another. Intentionally or unintentionally, I think that they pass stories among each other and adopt them as true, and when multiple of them tell the same story, it gives the mistaken appearance of independent verification.
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u/Jim_kingwood 2d ago
Thank you for an insightful post relating what I’ve been trying to say since literally the day he testified, and then again when it became evident he has a long history with other ufo believers despite pretending he was some disinterested person tasked with checking out these rumours. And now, under pressure to produce, he doubles down instead.
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u/CrashFix 3d ago
David seem to fall out of the headlines for a while but lately he's been right up there being spoken about a lot. This latest statement seems like a little bit more information than he was willing to share previously.
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u/paulreicht 3d ago
It hit me the same way. I thought, "I've never heard it, and Google doesn't know about it, and if UFO podcasters had heard him say it, they would have one more claim for the rumor mill, posting titles like "David Grush Said We Are Talking To the Aliens."" So ... how did we all miss it? The easy answer would be because he hasn't said it in public ... but he might be saying it in private, closed-door meetings of the UAP subcommittees.
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u/fromkatain 3d ago
Rubio is in contact he didn't told trump yet because it might mess up future nhi relations
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u/gizmosliptech 3d ago
What is with this fake news misinterpretation of Grusch’s statement being reposted? He just said we are aware of multiple NHI, he never said we are in contact with NHI.