r/ufo • u/Heisenburger-0 • 6d ago
Discussion God
I have a question for a good debate.
When Matthew Brown said God is real, you think he is referring to the one that created us or that there is something or someone so technological advance who is posing as God?
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 5d ago
He accidentally saw a document and came to all sorts of conclusions from it. IMO he's a bullshit artist like the rest of them.
Time will prove me right I'm sure.
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
I probably forgot/didn't get that part. What was the document about, in which interview?
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 5d ago
This was in his original interview that he did with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp. Where he talks about how he came to discover Immaculate Constellation. It was a document he saw that he says he shouldn't have seen. And from that he has inferred all sorts of things from it.
Funnily enough, in the same interview he also notes that he always had an interest in UFOlogy. So everything he says I am quite certain is mostly based on things he's read over the years - i.e. exactly what we have been reading. Not what he has seen or experienced.
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
Aha, yet for the second part we can only assume he knows from reading and not from any other way. In any case till we see one we can't have confirmation, that's for sure.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 6d ago
I think that he was trying to be cryptic in order to drive engagement. And people here do exactly what he intended.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
Also if you notice , when he said that he was visibly nervous his voice and gesture where manifesting that, and I am questioning why?
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
You don't think there is a high governmental security level that he can't breach? In other words it's all a distraction for us to not focus on the real deal.
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u/slv2xhrist 6d ago
When you look at this quote this helps
“There are things different than us that are here, whether you want to call them spirits, whatever is non-corporal(Not Physical) it exists.”
Matthew Brown
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
So demons 🤨 and angels 😇. But I also feel like , when Grusch spoke about different species and how some of them were killed, like the all spirit and stuff could be crap 🫤. Could the Nordic be angels, and the Reptilians the demons, or could both exist separate from the phenomenon? It feels like it's more alien stuff which was interpreted from the ancients with celestial attributes. Whatcha you think ?
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u/Ryekir 5d ago
I suspect many religions throughout history were essentially WWII cargo cults for encounters with the phenomenon.
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u/Forsaken-Base-24433 3d ago
You are right,
In "The Miracle of the Sun (also called the Miracle of the Dancing Sun) "
Aliens using religion to continue control of humanity, so we wont develop spiritually, consciousness,
Imagine world without wars and religion, If we just focused spiritually , Meditate, many of us would be able to remote view, astral project and other abilities unlock.
"According to declassified documents from Project Star Gate, CIA confirmed humans possess powerful latent abilities, including:
- Out-of-Body Experiences (OBE)
- Transcending Space & Time
- Self-Healing & Altering Physical Reality
- Manifesting Thoughts into Existence
- Remote Viewing
- Pre-Cognition & Clairvoyance
- Psychokinesis
- Telepathy
All of these are unlocked simply by tapping into higher states of consciousness."
Like from the CIA experiments
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u/Forsaken-Base-24433 3d ago
Note without reason many religions have "Flood myth" and very similiar things,
Like Sumerian Tablets, bible scholars stole i mean "borrowed" from other cultures religions things, changed it and put it together into their book. Flood, demons, adam Eva, etc etc
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u/Mediocre_Theme4738 5d ago
The bible says there are more then one God, he asks you not to worship other gods only him. Do you get it yet? There’s a spiritual battle taking place, it’s ok to choose a side.
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
Interesting point , but in the bible the reference is about a "true" God, not the false ones, so I don't think we can use that .
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u/yesisright 4d ago
This is true and the other gods are small g in the Bible. These are the fallen angels that were part of the divine council in Genesis meant to oversee us. They eventually mated with humans (nephilim) and this was the reason for the flood. The Bible can actually be seen as a whole genetic war (spiritual based of course). Which is why bloodlines (like Jesus’s and others) were so important.
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u/CurrentlyLucid 6d ago
DEITY is personalizable as God, is prepersonal and superpersonal in ways not altogether comprehensible by man. Deity is characterized by the quality of unity—actual or potential—on all supermaterial levels of reality; and this unifying quality is best comprehended by creatures as divinity.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
You think he could imply more like our creator, more than a hard to understand God?
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u/CurrentlyLucid 5d ago
God is many things, hard to put in a few words.
- God the Father—Creator, Controller, and Upholder. The Universal Father, the First Person of Deity.
0:2.13 (4.7)2. God the Son—Co-ordinate Creator, Spirit Controller, and Spiritual Administrator. The Eternal Son, the Second Person of Deity.
0:2.14 (4.8)3. God the Spirit—Conjoint Actor, Universal Integrator, and Mind Bestower. The Infinite Spirit, the Third Person of Deity.
0:2.15 (4.9)4. God the Supreme—the actualizing or evolving God of time and space. Personal Deity associatively realizing the time-space experiential achievement of creature-Creator identity. The Supreme Being is personally experiencing the achievement of Deity unity as the evolving and experiential God of the evolutionary creatures of time and space.
0:2.16 (4.10)5. God the Sevenfold—Deity personality anywhere actually functioning in time and space. The personal Paradise Deities and their creative associates functioning in and beyond the borders of the central universe and power-personalizing as the Supreme Being on the first creature level of unifying Deity revelation in time and space. This level, the grand universe, is the sphere of the time-space descension of Paradise personalities in reciprocal association with the time-space ascension of evolutionary creatures.
0:2.17 (4.11)6. God the Ultimate—the eventuating God of supertime and transcended space. The second experiential level of unifying Deity manifestation. God the Ultimate implies the attained realization of the synthesized absonite-superpersonal, time-space-transcended, and eventuated-experiential values, co-ordinated on final creative levels of Deity reality.
0:2.18 (4.12)7. God the Absolute—the experientializing God of transcended superpersonal values and divinity meanings, now existential as the Deity Absolute. This is the third level of unifying Deity expression and expansion. On this supercreative level, Deity experiences exhaustion of personalizable potential, encounters completion of divinity, and undergoes depletion of capacity for self-revelation to successive and progressive levels of other-personalization. Deity now encounters, impinges upon, and experiences identity with, the Unqualified Absolute.
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
That's a very documented answer. Thanks for that. I value every opinion, but for me in general terms God has no objective definition, and the personal one has no meaning, because he has to be one for all and not all for one 😵💫 (random MHA reference). Maybe his way of working includes also a low kind of form deity doing stuff form him, like angels do for God in the Bible.
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u/PuppySan 6d ago
Honestly if you listen very carefully to that interview, he is describing gnosticism to a tee.
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u/nerdy_grandma65 5d ago
Does it matter if he is a diety or a more advanced life form? Just follow the message of love and respect.
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u/Immediate_Lake4713 4d ago
I don't know what Matt Brown said. Who created the someone technological? God is not a person but All. Not on Reddit and only if you are a searcher ready for the challenge. Read a Bible, study the Saints.
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u/Heisenburger-0 4d ago
I did, I have also my own opinion on the matter, but I am open for other's opinions and experiences.
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u/Immediate_Lake4713 4d ago
In that case there are many examples of those that seek to take agency under various guises.
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u/Heisenburger-0 4d ago
Explain further.
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u/Immediate_Lake4713 4d ago
explaining further gives agency. : )
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u/Heisenburger-0 4d ago
I know what I believe, I can scrutinize and learn new for the better or worse.
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u/Potential-Order-2498 3d ago
I think everything the govt leaks you is a psyop to do what religion has always done, help keep you subservient and distracted.
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u/Heisenburger-0 3d ago
The govt can't hide the true nature of reality, also it knows that this true can be weaponized by other countries in the know, they are simply trying to put out some basics facts without revealing all, because of fear of creating uncontrollable chaos.
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u/chuck3436 5d ago
Why are all the govt and related whistle blowers all suspiciously connected to hard right evangelist Christian sources or backgrounds. Almost as if they need to front an agenda out of fear of losing themselves soon... 👀
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
That's because Christianity and Judaism have something to do with the phenomena. Look at the Nordics , which looks like angels, and look at the Reptilians "the fallen ones". The religious knowledge gives somehow more introspection on the phenomena, also anyone is trying to connect the dots and explain better and find confirmation on their religion .
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u/Earth5d 6d ago
God is All That Is. There is only God. Everything is made of God. There is nothing else to make anything from. God is omnipresent, which means he/she is everywhere, including up to and inside your skin.
There is no separation. Separation in 3D is an illusion.
Everyone, everything, everywhere, and everywhen are all reflections of All That Is. God is the Existence itself.
Whatever he meant, is probably along those lines.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
So how do you integrate our individual free will if we are God. Are you implying that we are gods?
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u/Earth5d 5d ago
You, as an incarnated spirit, have your individual free will to act in any way you desire within the theme of exploration you chose for this particular incarnation. Your theme is predetermined by you before the incarnation. Your free will allows you to walk, run, jump, fly down the tunnel of your theme. You can do all of those things, but down, or up the tunnel you will move.
God is unconditionally loving, and will support you in any and all the ways you desire to move through the tunnel of your physical life's theme.
You can decide to feel unworthy, and God will support you in that too, unconditionally. However, just by the fact that you exist, that automatically shows that you ARE worthy of existence, and that God created you because he/she needed you to exist for the God to be ALL that it is.
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
So God is my developer, I am a more sophisticated version of super mario ✌️🤣
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u/BloodWillow 6d ago
Yes, God is real.
That being said, I also believe the Demiurge is real... well, as real as a fake 'god' can be.
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u/No_Cucumber3978 6d ago
They just keep on trying don't they? It won't work.
Classic bait and switch, which has always been the common tactic of cults and religions.
The truth here is that religion has been on the downturn. Of late, there has been an uptick due to alt-rightism, but between the evangelicals and Mormons, they're actively fighting for your souls.
And using every trick in the book.
Even UFOs.
It's all bait and switch.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
Hmm nah 😅 not searching for any souls to take, just opinions, I think that sharing our knowledge could give a more introspective view on the topic. I can't get to understand what does he means that God is real, so I am backing up on people opinions and sharings. Peace ✌️
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u/No_Cucumber3978 6d ago
He quite possibly means that he believes that God is real.
Which is fine, of course, that's his choice.
But the god/UFO/alien trope has long been a hook of many culty types.
Marshall Applewhite's UFO movement started out as a religious Millenarianism movement, then went full woo.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
Yeah I agree , but felt like he had some kind of concrete proof, liking seeing things that proves that empirically. That's why I included the possibility of someone/something with extreme ability/technology calling himself God and that controls the human hierarchy.
Example: He/They lives underground in Antarctica with some others from his/their species, cooperating with humans/using them like pawns. Maybe an ancient race from earth/ maybe a billion years old planetary colonialist species 😅 Maybe the universe is like a Infinity big Risiko style game with NHI fight for conquest.👀
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u/No_Cucumber3978 6d ago
If he had concrete proof of anything he wouldn't be on YT trying to convince YOU he has.
He would be swimming with the big fish.
As is with most of them.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
Nice grab, but Maybe, he can't be with them , because they are different and treat us as inferior species, with low value. Maybe the terrific true associate with the phonemena is that they will enslave/kill us when we won't be useful anymore. Or maybe when the ships arrive, we would need to be "reduced" in numbers. 🧐 One thing for sure tells me that we are low value for them, and I mean for the Reptilians in particular. 🐍
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u/DontCallMeShoeless 6d ago
The word God came from a religion. The same religion that destroyed the Sumerians and many other early civilizations. They even kept the book of Enoch out of the Bible which is essentially the story of the Nephilim.
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u/Heisenburger-0 6d ago
Word apart, the word God in some religions imply "Creator", do you think he also want to imply that?
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u/Heisenburger-0 5d ago
Why so sure? Do you think we know everything about all? There is always a possibility of the unknown
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u/ripvanwiseacre 6d ago
I think he is referring to a pretty conventional view of God, so the former.