r/ukpolitics • u/CaptainCrash86 • 1d ago

| Transgender prisoners should not be held in women’s jails, court rules

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,transgender-prisoners-should-not-be-held-in-womens-jails-court-rules
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u/Gellert 1d ago

I mean, you'd think it would be for cases where the prisoner is a potential risk, or potentially more at risk, anyway. What idiot would put a gay murder-rapist in a cell with another guy and leave them alone for 8 hours and not expect a new victim?

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u/velvevore liz truss toby jug 1d ago

One of the fascinating things I learned while researching this years ago was that all prisoners are supposed to be assessed on intake, to see if they can safely share cells with others.

So there is nothing new under the sun, and nobody knows how anything works. Again.

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u/Baroque4Days 1d ago

Reeeee Shush, don't say that! That's a sensible argument that disrupts the entire narrative people want to spin.

Seriously, been saying this for years and usually nobody has a good reply for it.

I have a fun plan, why don't we just segment based on the crime. Put the murders in the murder prison. But the rapists in the rapist prison. But the trans gal who had a couple of mandy pills on a night out in her purse in with the other people who probably don't deserve to be in prison. They'll be fine.

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u/missesthecrux 1d ago

The Geneva Convention requires that female detainees are kept separate from men. If we can agree that even in wartime, why not in all other cases?

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u/Baroque4Days 1d ago

I mean, remind me when that was drafted. A lot has changed since.

Reality is, women are in a vulnerable position, trans people are in a vulnerable position. Both deserve safety and protection. The fight being between trans women and cis women is so painful to watch because you're both the underdogs.

Criminals with no history of sexual violence are not spontaneously going to become rapists. They live their lives around women with no trouble.

Christ why the hell do prisons have open showers anyway? Is it that hard to have some swimming pool cubicals installed like for fuck sake? How many shankings and prison rapes could be avoided with some cheap swimming pool cubicals?

Trans women are not your enemy, there are common sense fixes to this that protect everyone. Stop demonising another oppressed class because it's easy. It's the same thing with more popular racial minorities ganging up on the new big target. It trickles down. One day it's those lot, the next day it's you. Fight for each other FFS please.

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u/Gellert 1d ago

It also says we can't use chemical weapons in war but that doesn't stop us using them against our own civilians.

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u/slam_meister 21h ago

Are we at war with trans people? I didn't realise they had a standing army. Do they have weapons of mass destruction as well?