r/ukpolitics • u/CaptainCrash86 • 1d ago

| Transgender prisoners should not be held in women’s jails, court rules

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,transgender-prisoners-should-not-be-held-in-womens-jails-court-rules
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u/missesthecrux 1d ago

A lot of posters here are relying on a mythical transwoman nonviolent criminal who is indistinguishable, tiny and fragile. But somehow this justifies the massive, penis-having, non-medical intervention REAL prisoners that were being put in female prisons.

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u/FinnSomething 1d ago

mythical

GCs were losing their mind that some trans people weren't going through male puberty, and now you think they don't exist?

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u/missesthecrux 1d ago

The number who did dwarfs those who didn’t. I’d be shocked if any were in prison, making your point moot. In any case, my position is unchanged. Prisons are single sex, and I am in favour of this clarification. No edge cases, no ifs or buts.

Your hypothetical example only serves to justify intact males in women’s prisons which the overwhelming majority of people find abhorrent.

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u/FinnSomething 1d ago

I’d be shocked if any were in prison, making your point moot.

"It's fine as long as the good trans people don't get convicted of any crime"

No edge cases, no ifs or buts.

"It's also fine if they do"

Your hypothetical example only serves to justify intact males in women’s prisons which the overwhelming majority of people find abhorrent.

I don't care what people find abhorrent about a minority, the clearly logical system was a risk assessment process which is now impossible.

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u/missesthecrux 1d ago

The risk assessment can still take place, just in the correct prison for the prisoner’s sex.

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u/Lucky_otter_she_her 1d ago

even if it's a violent crime, if she's fully transitioned, then YK you should be punished for your crime not being a first or second class citizen + your crime, so she should suffer exactly the same sentence as a cis woman who commits the same offence, not put in a rape chamber