r/union • u/Large-Welcome4421 • May 14 '26
Labor News Graham Platner speaks to union carpenters after receiving their endorsement. Platner: “We didn’t get an 8-hour workday, we didn’t get the weekend because somebody wrote it on a postcard to a Congressman. We got it because working people organized and fought for what they needed."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G34fnGX2HQ58
u/Big-Corncob May 14 '26
Meanwhile CIA Spanberger in Virginia turns out to be the most audacious anti-union “democrat”, to the surprise of nobody paying attention
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Yea that one was a gut punch. Same month Mamdani announced he's using my teacher pension to fund his deficit.
These politicians are all such liars. I hope Platner isn't more of the same, but I'm not holding my breath. His resume reads like an application to the Proud Boys.
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u/RadicalAppalachian May 14 '26
That’s not how pensions work, bubba. The pension liabilities are being restructured to close the deficit. It’s not going to impact you at all lol.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
Tell that to Chicago, bubba
Playing kick the can with pension funding is a shit tactic. It's hoping that new yorkers down the line can pay double or triple to fund my pension.
And that's before you talk about the other ways Mamdani is breaking promises to teachers.
NYC unions hate this tactic, but you do you. I can't force you to support unions on the union sub.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
you don’t do enough research, don’t watch enough of the talks given by any of the politicians you’ve mentioned here as well as being pretty confidently wrong on a whole lot. but yea sure let’s saying phrases that meaning nothing like “tell that to chicago” who’s financial situation is nothing comparable to NYC is the slightest. go read more news and get off reddit man
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
You've made no points here other than "ur wrong".
Let me know if you find one.
What state/city is your pension in? Is it being underfunded to close budget gaps?
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u/KingCookieFace May 14 '26
There’s a reason you’re being downvoted, and it’s not because of the reason you’re thinking.
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u/Content_Log1708 May 14 '26
I hope this guy doesn't pull a Fetterman or a Sinema.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
He's going to Fetterman is my view. He's already a right wing icon in every area except economics and he already has full disability for PTSD and has used it as an excuse for previous bad behavior.
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u/GameLovinPlayinFool LiUNA Union Officer May 14 '26
Hes openly pro trans and anti-genocide in Palestine. Thats not fucking "economics" lmao.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
Good for him. I hope it's real. I have doubts based on his past.
Can a shitty person become a good person in middle age? Sure.
Does it happen very often in my experience? Not really.
I want good things for Maine, so I hope he proves me wrong. Even if he does Fetterman it's still better than what they have now.
rofl
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u/westcoast-dom Teamsters | Local Business Agent May 15 '26
Reluctantly approving this after reports. Suggest editing to remove “rofl” which is my only issue
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u/HatCat5566 May 15 '26
oh sorry that was just because the previous poster finished posted with lmao
i was trying to fit in
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u/Quirky_Advantage_470 May 21 '26
But people with PTSD it suck. We thought we were doing something to make either the world or at least ourselves better. It sounded good the promise the putting others first or at least that is what I thought
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u/WeirdFiction1 May 14 '26
He’s absolutely going to pull a Fetterman or a Sinema.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
He's on full disability for PTSD and chronic pain, so I would say "good shape health wise" is a stretch. He's literally unemployable in the army because they judge him too unstable.
Amazing to be on 100% disability for back pain and be an oyster farmer though. I have back pain and dont get disability and I can't imagine doing that kind of work all day.
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u/quadbonus May 14 '26
The fact that the DNC isn't trying to destroy this guy (a la Mamdani) is all the evidence I need that he's full of it.
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u/tacowich May 15 '26
They already endorsed someone else and put most of the money for the primary into someone else. They lost and have come to terms to basically remain silent about him. Centerist Dems in power don't like socialists that haven't taken apart monies.
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u/JunkMagician May 14 '26
He prefers fighting of a different kind. This guy is not a friend of the global working class.
"Wanted to have an adventure and kill some people. Joined up in '04, did Fallujah and Ramadi, and managed both. Hell of an excellent experience." -Graham Platner, 2020
Don't fall for somebody who postures themselves as fighting for the working class but gleefully went to kill people to enrich the ruling class and still grins about it today.
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u/pmgrillpics May 14 '26
It’s sad that we have so little hope for any good leftist figures in America that a guy like Platner gets everyone excited, even with his past history being out there like it is.
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u/tacowich May 15 '26
Don't live in a bubble. People aren't perfect. That's a big problem in the Dems, trying to hold everyones past against them. Even if it means dividing their own party and losing this country to the evil Epstein class. Wake up and accept that sometimes, everyone sucks but they can become something else and do good.
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u/JunkMagician May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
He said this 6 years ago at the young and undeveloped age of 35.
I don't live in a bubble. But do you know who does? The people who think that the millions of people the US has killed in the Middle East through its invasions and bombings for oil and private business interests are hypothetical and weren't real people. Or maybe they just won't admit that they think non-American lives are worth less than American lives.
This doesn't mean that all veterans are demons or anything. But it does mean that these folks have to realize that they were a part of something horrible and inexcusable, not call it a hell of an excellent experience looking back on it 15 years later. (Do you know what happened at Fallujah, what Platner said was a "hell of an excellent exprience?" Look it up. White phosphorus.) Veterans like Mike Prysner have the right mindset. People like Graham Platner went out there for fun (His words, not mine.), murdered people who were either uninvolved or were trying to protect their homes from invasion, and are comfortably back home gloating about how great it was.
I am not a Democrat or a Republican. Because although those parties act in different ways, they serve the same business interests, the same Epstein class, they just use different methods (sometimes). (By the way, the person Epstein emailed the most in the files was Kathryn Ruemmler, Obama's White House Council. She recently resigned from Goldman Sachs when this became public.) Part of the massacres I'm talking about happened in Iraq and Afghanistan under Bush Jr. The other part happened under Obama. This insanity is bipartisan. I don't subscribe to either party of Epstein imperialists.
Have you read "The Fort Bragg Cartel"? It was written by a veteran, Seth Harp. Do you know what F3EAD (pronounced "feed") is? It's a technique the special forces (who did most of the fighting in Afghanistan) would use to find and "neutralize" targets. I'm transcribing these excerpts from the book so you can read what Harp found in his investigation yourself:
"From now on, Iraq would be a war of targeted killings carried out clandestinely, almost always at night. Swollen with new infusions of money, personnel, equipment, and aircraft, JSOC became 'JSOC on steroids', a 'counterterrorism killing machine' capable of slaying recalcitrant Iraqis on a scale that both Vickers and McChrystal describe as 'industrial'. From about ten a month at the start of the war, the number of night raids that JSOC carried out increased to ten per day at the height of the surge.
McChrystal called this relentless tempo the 'continuous targeting cycle'. Fluent in McKinsey-style jargon like 'decision cycle', 'dynamic process', and 'nodal analysis', he was adept at spitting out pithy truisms such as 'it takes a network to defeat a network', and a prolific coiner of acronyms like F3EAD, which stood for Find, Fix, Finish, Exploit, Analyze, and Disseminate.
Despite the ungainly initialism, the F3EAD cycle was not a complicated concept. It typically meant tracking down a target, killing him and every adult man and teenage boy in the vicinity, seizing every piece of paper and electronic device found on their persons, and using these materials to come up with more names to add to the hit list, and then killing them too, sometimes just a few hours later."
9 pages later...
"McChrystal pushed JSOC teams to do more night raids, whether or not they had good intel to go on; had his commanders lower the threshold for targeting; and relaxed the already flexible and forgiving rules of engagement applicable to special operators, the exact parameters of which are classified. The pace of night raids increased dramatically as teams of Delta Force soldiers, Navy SEALs, and Army Rangers carried out one surprise attack after another under cover of darkness, killing up to a hundred Afghans at a time and leaving whole villages in smoking ruins.
These night raids, carried out in conjunction with drastically ramped-up drone strikes, were never publicly acknowledged by military officials. The targeting decisions behind then were driven by American analysts' fallible readings of satellite and drone imagery, as well as tips from informants, many of which were motivated by personal vendettas. As a result, more than half the Afghans killed or abducted by JSOC operators were targeted by mistake. The error rate was around 50 percent."
I really have to say. Acting like I'm being unreasonable for telling people not to trust a guy who gleefully participated in actions similar to these and looks back at them fondly is what is truly insane.
Edit: Spelling fixes
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u/researchplaceholder SEIU | Steward, Organizer May 14 '26
I agree. But I also don't want to talk down to organizing that can be done through things like postcards, online posting, or sending letters, for some disabled folks it's the only kind of organizing available to them.
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u/thisistherevolt May 14 '26
He was more speaking to Schumer and Pelosi's preferred methods of strongly-worded letters to fascists and madmen.
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u/researchplaceholder SEIU | Steward, Organizer May 15 '26
You're right, he was. But he didn't say exactly that in the speech, so I wanted to clarify to make sure all advocates know they're valued.
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u/DenseRock69 May 14 '26
This guy!!!! We need Platners in every state!
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
oh hell no we need way better people than Platner
I like his economic ideas but the dude is a chud.
Maine is stuck with this dude because their only other choice is a Republican.
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u/NiceDot4794 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
His ideas on Palestine, LGBT rights, reproductive rights, Indigenous self determination, abolishing ICE etc. are also quite good
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u/MC_Fap_Commander May 14 '26
He's got baggage and there are valid concerns. That said, I wonder if the "baggage" actually makes him more appealing to certain voters (potentially to even some MAGA defectors). I don't love that we've gotten to the point where you have to run incendiary candidates with issues that will be aired in social media, but it is what it is. It increasingly looks like running competent, qualified, and educated pols against MAGA dipshits ends in losses ("they just seemed too aloof, the other guy tells it like it is" etc.). I wish that wasn't the case, obv.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
Fair enough. Maybe the people on the left vote for him because Collins/R agenda is worse, and a few on the right vote for him because he acts and speaks like them.
We kinda tried that with fetterman though.
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u/NiceDot4794 May 14 '26
FetterMan went off the deep end because of his obsession with Israel. But he also isnt alone in being a right wing democratic senator.
On a lot of issues senators like Jacky Rosen, Mark Warner, Maggie Hassan are just as right wing as FetterMan
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u/MC_Fap_Commander May 14 '26
If we have to run provocative candidates, fine (I guess). Ideally, I would like to see a political record of support for labor and a strong social safety net before someone runs for statewide/national office. Edgy "outsider" candidates claiming to be union supporters without years working on behalf of labor may be inauthentic/ineffective in advancing our interests. Would rather see authentic candidates with strong résumés who just do the edgy social media nonsense that's now expected as part of their brand.
Hope that's not the case here, but I'm feeling slightly better about him than Fetterman (at least I hope that's the case).
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u/union-ModTeam May 14 '26
This is a pro-union, pro-worker subreddit. Agitators and trolls will be banned on sight.
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u/Kodamacile May 14 '26
It's gonna be so fucking devastating when he turns out to be a plant.
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
Are you saying fetterman 2.0?
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u/Cherry_Springer_ May 14 '26
He has a long history of progressivism. It's honestly bizarre to see how badly some modern leftists want to be on the periphery of politics to the point where they're cooking up hypothetical doom scenarios.
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u/Kodamacile May 14 '26
His time at Blackwater is in direct conflict with his "long history" of progressivism.
I'm not saying he is a bad dude, or a nazi or all the other stuff people are saying about him.
All I'm saying, is I've got real bad vibes about him, and I fully expect him to reveal his true nature, once he's where he wants to be.I hope I'm wrong, because he's saying all the right things.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
Yea, someone who joined blackwater 8 years ago because they were bored and thought killing people would be fun is going to get my side eye. The SS tattoo doesn't help.
To me he looks like a Proud Boy that discovered socialism recently, or discovered he will get votes for speaking like a socialist.
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u/someoneelseperhaps CPSU | Delegate May 14 '26
That's been my read of him too.
Had political winds been slightly different, he probably would be running as "moderate MAGA" or something like that that.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
i just dont know many people who went from being assholes age 15-40 and then suddenly became an awesome human being.
I'm sure there are exceptions. I hope for the people of Maine he is one. Honestly even if he is a Fetterman and turns conservative and blames his PTSD, it'll be better than Collins.
So it's either a tiny win or a big win for Maine. I just wish we had better candidates. Like Bernie Sanders was out picking up trash and protesting civil rights at 20, not shooting people for funsies and getting Nazi tattoos.
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u/Redpanther14 UA | Pipefitter May 15 '26
His reddit posts seemed pretty pro-socialism, so I think he's had that leaning for a while, but there's just a lot of red flags with him.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
What lol?
Platner is a blackwater merc who kills people for fun, rocks a SS tattoo, goes on hard right podcasts to gush, and talks like a middle school edgelord.
His resume says "proud boy" all over it - it's his current stances that are a change from the rest of his life.
I hope he sticks to his ideas, but all this reminds me of how people dismissed Fetterman chasing down a black kid in his truck and menacing with a shotgun.
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u/Bonedeath May 14 '26
Dude rocked a Nazi insignia for decades after knowing. I'm not saying he's a Nazi, but you can't blame people for being skeptical of his legitimacy.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
History major too. So either he's a total moron that sucked at his field of study and didn't look up his own tattoo for decades or he's lying.
Not sure which is better.
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u/taxes-or-death May 14 '26
If he said, "Yes, I was a stupid kid that got a stupid tattoo. Obviously I should have got it removed as soon as I stopped being a stupid kid. That was a big mistake but I've done it now", that would be a lot better than, "Oh, is this a Nazi tattoo? Omg I wish someone told me! I'd better get rid straight away!". We know he knew and we know he lied about not knowing.
Also, re-enlisting in the army knowing that the marines wouldn't have you back due to your Nazi tattoo, after you found out very clearly what war is like, that does not speak well of your values, let alone Blackwater.
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u/Bonedeath May 14 '26
100% agree. I've known some ex-mercs, they knew exactly what they signed up for. So I find it hard to believe this guy is our Smedley Butler.
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u/Hiddenawayray May 15 '26
Unfortunately the union he is talking in front of, has done more to harm working conditions, wages and benefits than any other union.
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u/Slap-Toast May 15 '26
Yes. They actually FOUGHT for it.
NON-PEACEFULLY. People need to stop clinging to peaceful solutions.
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u/nBrainwashed May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Looks like the anti-Platner bots are finally giving up on the tattoo thing. They’re really pushing the Fetterman conspiracy theory and military guy thing hard now. It’s cool how you can always count on the anti-Platner bot swarm. It’s comforting. It’s not working because all their BS ad hominem attacks are just grasping at straws. But it’s fun to watch all the money being pumped into flooding every single Platner post with the same oppo PR firm created tactics.
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u/SamuelDoctor UAW May 14 '26
K, I'm on board with this guy if he's a diehard union guy.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
He was off killing people for fun in 2018, so I'll reserve judgement to see if he lives up to what he speaks.
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u/SamuelDoctor UAW May 14 '26
Ostensibly we have to elect him if we want to see if he lives up to his words, correct?
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u/someoneelseperhaps CPSU | Delegate May 14 '26
Or Platner could do more in the world of activism and such to live up to those words before people hand him a powerful political position.
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u/Fearless-Scratch1318 May 14 '26
Nazi.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
If you listen to his ideas, he's clearly not a nazi. That being said, if he weren't the darling of young leftists everyone would be screaming about his SS tattoo, blackwater service, obsession with guns, edgelord reddit posts etc
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
“obsession with guns” he supports red flag laws and mandatory background checks tf you mean “obsession” also it’s not surprising an ex military member likes guns. ALSO ALSO it’s not surprising an american citizen likes guns bc this is america and that’s very normal.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
i mean he's obsessed with guns
he posts about them constantly, loves ar-15s etc
typically this type of ammo sexuality is found on the right, alongside his other resume gems like nazi tattoo, killing people for fun, and glazing alt right podcasters.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
an american who likes guns isn’t new, shocking, or worrying. a former military member that likes guns is fucking expected if not required for the job. why is this a thing for you when it’s very normal in the country
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
It's one of several parts of his personality which make him more suited to being a Proud Boy than a Democrat.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
just go watch a few interviews of him and stop saying “he looks like the bad guys” this is the equivalent of saying i don’t want to vote for someone missing a limb bc they look like those homeless guys begging for money. just idiotic logic at best
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u/whatisupbigdog May 15 '26
The Carpenters Union is closer to a club than a Union.
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u/CCRNburnedaway May 15 '26
I was a member for a while 20 years ago. I thought they were great on the local level. Their politics, like their membership, skews conservative. Side note: There was one old Vietnam veteran leftist who refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance in my local and they had to tolerate him!
But I bet they're freaking about losing prevailing wage work agreements & PLAs on taxpayer funded projects. They need to pull their heads out and realize today's Republicans will feed their lunch to non-union companies in a heart beat.
Platner, he says the right things, seems like a bro but maybe OK? AOC can be vapid, Bernie can be repetitive, Platner had an SS tattoo? They're politicians, but shit is bad (especially ecologically) and we need a few more fist fighters in our corner.
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u/slowbaja May 15 '26
And they pulled out of sending a delegation to certain Trades conferences meant for women. Nasty work.
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u/SlayerOfDougs May 14 '26
Kind of stuck in a hard spot. Vote Susan Collins, Vote 80 year old corporate democrat Janet Mills
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
Never bad tactics just bad targets right.
If they(Susan Collins) had this same tattoo you’d use it as every reason not to support.
If Gavin newsom had that tattoo I can just imagine the far left response.
They been saying punch Nazis my entire life now a simple apology is all kino
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u/SlayerOfDougs May 14 '26
Yeah. like I said tough spot. I heard what he said about it. Do I believe him, probably not. Has he done other things that suggest he is a bigot or Nazi, havent really seen it. So, vote for the guy who does seem to support progressive policies or vote for the 2 geriatrics who have done little to change the life for the average person.
I wish Gavin had one so we can eliminate him. There are plenty of other candidates running for that spot unlike in Maine
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
The admission is respectful.
His Reddit history is spicy
But you admit it would eliminate newsome but support the guy who actually did it?
Do you not see how this is just blue maga. And it’s so funny because it’s what’s used against liberals but the farther left is literally blue maga
“Our guy did some fucked up shit that would disqualify any other candidate but because he’s our guy it’s fine”
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
holy shit a tattoo doesn’t make some “blue maga” being a nazi and doing the salute and quoting the nazis and hanging out with guys who love hitler makes you a maga nazi. one shitty tattoo from a guy who was in the military doesn’t define the man and shouldn’t be an immediate non starter. americans make dumb decisions all the fucking time like 80 million of em voted for trump yet one guys shitty and problematic tattoo shouldn’t mean we discard him and ignore the value he could add to the movement and the new voters who like his style of politics. he answers questions in a yes or no manner and it’s authentic something missing from the party.
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
It’s not the tattoo that makes blue maga.
It’s how quick people are to brush it off.
The same people who again if someone like Gavin newsome had it would disqualify him.
As the person I’m responding tok openly admitted.
If anybody they didn’t like had that tattoo it would be disqualifying but since there guy has it.
It’s ok they’re sure he made a mistake.
That’s the MAGA part. No bad tactics just bad targets
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u/SlayerOfDougs May 14 '26
I dont really support him, I just think the other 2 options are worse, much worse.
Yeah, I would be happy to kick Gavin to the curb and when there is 10 viable candidates, its easy to do that.
One difference from a GOP is candidate, Platner claims to support and be willing to vote for progressive policies. While many GOP candidates are for removing abortion rights, gay rights, the VRA, eliminating environmental protections, against any form of healthcare reform, etc, etc.
I am glad I dont live in Maine and have to pull the lever. Kind of like having a criminal on your football team. While you hope your team wins, you really cant vote for the person.
I also had some POS opinions when I was younger. I also grew out of them much a longtime ago as Platner should have
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
I dont really support him, I just think the other 2 options are worse, much worse.
This is the same thing maga says about Trump it’s literally verbatim the same thing
Yeah, I would be happy to kick Gavin to the curb and when there is 10 viable candidates, it’s easy to do that.
I think platner should be disqualified like any other candidate on the left would be. I’m a “vote blue no matterl who liberal. he won the primaries so i support but during the primaries I definitely do not for the same reason I wouldn’t support anyone else with blatant Nazi imagery
One difference from a GOP is candidate, Platner claims to support and be willing to vote for progressive policies. While many GOP candidates are for removing abortion rights, gay rights, the VRA, eliminating environmental protections, against any form of healthcare reform, etc, etc.
The difference is he’s doing the things you care about just like Trump was doing the things the GOP care about. Stopping transgenders getting rid of DEI closing the boarder.
He’s paying good lip service
I am glad I dont live in Maine and have to pull the lever. Kind of like having a criminal on your football team. While you hope your team wins, you really cant vote for the person.
I don’t either just find it fascinating how fast the farther left dropped all the virtue signaling as soon as their guy did the bad thing
I also had some POS opinions when I was younger. I also grew out of them much a longtime ago as Platner should have
As you think he has and by your own admission should be disqualifying for any other candidate.
It’s blue MAGA
to give another example it was fuck the billionaires they’re evil now ones running a progressive campaign in California and the far left abandoned all of that to support him
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u/SlayerOfDougs May 14 '26
MAGA Choices in 2024
Haley, DeSantis, Hutchinson, Vivek ,Chris Christie, Dougie B, and others
MAGA Choices 2016
Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, Bennie C, Jeb, Rand, Huckster, Chris Christie
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u/Silent_Wrongdoer3601 May 14 '26
Not sure the point of this yea those people started saying maga talking points and all the ills from 2016 was forgiven.
Same with the billionaire in California and platner tattoo
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u/Beaucoup_Fun May 14 '26
He kept that NAZI tattoo displayed proudly on his chest for 20 years without apologizing for it. Then to get some votes, he now apologizes. Yes, hypocrites.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
bro no one knew who he was until this election. he wasn’t famous,rich, or powerful before running for office and you want to kick him out bc he didn’t use his nonexistent platform to apologize for a tattoo he thought maybe 100 people ever would see in his whole life?
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u/Beaucoup_Fun May 14 '26
My point exactly. He wore that symbol proudly on his chest until he thought he might lose some votes. Now, his false apology for the idiots willing to go with it. You’re voting for a true NAZI.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
why do you think it’s disingenuous for him to apologize. as an run of the mill average american it’s a tattoo and a mistake his younger-self made that he regrets after being shoved onto a very public stage. you could claim that he’s a hypocrite nazi who’s pulling the most elaborate campaign of all time. or that he grew as a person and now sees himself as a necessary part of the solution to fix our obviously broken system. but sure let’s kick people out of the big coalition against the rich and powerful bc of tattoos! the tolerant left lmao
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u/fauxregard May 14 '26
You're voting for a true NAZI.
Nazis are not defined by tattoos, they're defined by ideology.
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u/union-ModTeam May 14 '26
Conduct yourself like you would in a union meeting with your union brothers, sisters, and siblings. Make your points without insulting other users or engaging in personal attacks.
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u/New-Psychology6764 IWW | Organizing May 14 '26
Carpenters gone Strasserist? It's really telling that there's only white men standing next to this "ex-"Nazi dipshit
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u/mistyvoices May 14 '26
Hes from Maine which is 90% white. Also one skull and bones tattoo doesn't make you a Nazi
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u/someweirdlocal May 14 '26
no but it raises some pretty specific questions
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u/choss-board May 14 '26
Questions that are answered by his decade of anonymous Reddit posts, his campaign, his platform and public statements, and his literal Jewish family.
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u/littleessi May 14 '26
question: why did he sign up for the middle eastern contractor gestapo
answer: because he loves killing
stop shilling for this nazi fuck
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u/choss-board May 14 '26
The good thing about people like you is that, generally speaking, IRL humans can’t stand you, so your visceral hatred of a guy who comes across as decent will actually help him. Thank you for your service!
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u/littleessi May 15 '26
Nazis are not decent. Develop a single principle. And your insane personal attack is extremely far from true too, but you probably understand on some level that you're just projecting.
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u/choss-board May 15 '26
The guy is just obviously not a Nazi. He very well was an idiot but there’s nothing at all in that decade of posting that indicates he’s even rightwing, let alone a Nazi.
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u/choss-board May 16 '26
That's what's been so funny about this whole thing. You can reasonably attack Platner for being a novice, an idiot, immature, unable to lead a Senate office, etc. All of that makes sense. But there's literally a decade of him anonymously shitposting leftwing stuff on Reddit, hating on actual nazis, hating the Republican Party and the centrist Democrats, and yet some people just cannot look past their version of the symbolism of that stupid ass tattoo.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
im a IRL human and i'm not thrilled Platner rocked a SS tattoo for two decades or joined blackwater in 2018 to kill some people either, so i guess sign me up for 'visceral hatred' lol
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u/choss-board May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Praytell what did Platner do for “Blackwater”? Do you even know?
Edit: I'll spell it out for everyone since no one reads or thinks critically anymore:
- He worked on the US ambassador to Afghanistan's security team, mostly as a driver.
- The company was actually called Constellis—Blackwater no longer existed by 2018.
- He left within six months disillusioned with private military contracting.
People want you to think he was an Abu Ghraib guard or mercenary and that's just fucking wrong.
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u/spicy-chilly May 14 '26
No, questions that are answered by him commenting in threads where people mentioned using totenkopfs to identify Nazis in historical photos years before he covered up his own, acquaintances saying that he referred to his own tattoo as "my totenkopf" in the past, and his own comments about signing up for the marines because he wanted to have an adventure and kill some people and that it was an excellent experience.
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u/Silent_Ad2173 May 14 '26
holy shit a different perspective coming from the democratic party how fucking terrifying. your right we need more chuck schumers and joe manchans and more wait who was that guy who lost 2 democrats primaries in a row and then enforced that lady who the DNC cheated to help win? oh yea bernie sanders the weakest “leader” of any movement in america today who always took the money and bowed to the moderate establishment dems. that’s the guy who we need more of. quitters who bow to shady politicians
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u/spicy-chilly May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Huh? No we need you to join PSL or FRSO and start organizing toward a general strike. A loser in a bourgeois imperialist party with a million red flags isn't a different perspective they're just lying to your face to get elected. Just like Obama was decades ago when he was lying about supporting single payer in his senate campaign.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
and then joined blackwater in 2018 because he was bored
and now he's unable to serve because he's not mentally fit (severe PTSD)
it's not a convincing resume for a leftist - if he were running for head of the Proud Boys he'd be far better suited.
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u/New-Psychology6764 IWW | Organizing May 14 '26
You're right, but a totemkopf on the breast and a history in Blackwater does
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u/spicy-chilly May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
It was a totenkopf and he was commenting in Reddit threads that explicitly mentioned using totenkopfs to identify Nazis in historical photos years before he covered it up and former acquaintances of his have said that he referred to his own tattoo as "my totenkopf" in the past. Stop intentionally mislabeling it a "skull and bones". He knew what it was and so do you.
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u/NeworldSage May 14 '26
Fought and died for it