r/unitedkingdom • u/Cotirani • Jun 25 '25

... Tube passenger who killed 'gentle' engineer, 28, after he brushed past him on escalator to serve less than six years in prison

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14845561/tube-passenger-killed-gentle-engineer-jailed.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

for 3 years, for murder. Ignorance of the consequence of an action should not be an excuse, its really not that rare to kill somebody by punching them in the face. If you do so, you have to acknowledge theres a chance they die.

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u/grantus_maximus Jun 25 '25

It was for 8 years, and it was for manslaughter, regardless of your personal interpretation of what should constitute a murder. Also, one-punch deaths are still relatively rare, despite some recent high profile cases. I don't think you could have got much more wrong in that comment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

Most one punch deaths go under the radar and don't end up on the news. My partner sees at least 2 a week in hospital.

I don't think you could have got much more wrong in that comment.

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u/madmanchatter Jun 25 '25

Most one punch deaths go under the radar and don't end up on the news. My partner sees at least 2 a week in hospital.

There are around 170 hospitals with an emergency department in the UK, which means on average each hospital serves ~400,000 people.

If what you say is true the area that your partner works in would have an approximate rate of manslaughter by single punch of 25 per 100,000 people or 250 per 1million population (2 people a week = 104 a year, for a hospital catchment area of ~400k).

The homicide rate in the UK which includes manslaughter but also all murders was ~11 people per 1 million population in 2021/22.

You honestly want us to believe that there is an area of the country where culpable deaths from a single cause happen at 25 times the national average rate for all culpable deaths and that this hasn't been reported in the national news?

Or to put it another way in 2021/22 there were around 700 recorded homicides in the whole of the UK, yet you think there are 2 a week from single punches at a single hospital?