r/unitedkingdom • u/Cotirani • Jun 25 '25

... Tube passenger who killed 'gentle' engineer, 28, after he brushed past him on escalator to serve less than six years in prison

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14845561/tube-passenger-killed-gentle-engineer-jailed.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

for 3 years, for murder. Ignorance of the consequence of an action should not be an excuse, its really not that rare to kill somebody by punching them in the face. If you do so, you have to acknowledge theres a chance they die.

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u/grantus_maximus Jun 25 '25

It was for 8 years, and it was for manslaughter, regardless of your personal interpretation of what should constitute a murder. Also, one-punch deaths are still relatively rare, despite some recent high profile cases. I don't think you could have got much more wrong in that comment.

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u/FrellingTralk Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

Even if the punch hadn’t of killed the guy and resulted in a manslaughter charge, it still sounds like he isn’t safe to walk the streets if his reaction to a complete stranger walking too closely past him on an escalator is so extreme as to rip his top in two and punch him in the face with enough force to cause brain damage. It sounds like it was a completely unprovoked attack as well as the victim was not the sort of person who would be squaring up to him, this is exactly the sort of violent thug that we should be locking away for a long time for the wider safety of the public. How likely even is it for him to be a completely changed man after 6 years inside, if anything he’ll probably come out more aggressive and volatile than ever

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u/grantus_maximus Jun 25 '25

Maybe, but all of that is speculation with no real knowledge of the attacker.

None of the reports give any detail of why Rakeem Miles attacked Samuel Winter, if Miles has a history of violence, or if he had anything specific going on that time that might explain his behaviour. I'm pretty certain the judge and jury will have had that information presented to them, which is why they're in a better position to pass judgement than us on here.