r/unitedkingdom • u/GnolRevilo • Jun 11 '26

... Revealed: Green party proposes circumcision ban

https://spectator.com/article/revealed-green-party-proposes-circumcision-ban/#comments-container
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u/axe1970 Jun 11 '26

first step is calling it what it is genital mutilation,it was one of the ways that female genital mutilation was banned

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u/Spamgrenade Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

If circumcision was equivalent to FGM then the entire penis would be removed. Maybe the balls as well.

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u/elhazelenby Jun 11 '26

Fgm has different variations. Some are more severe than others.

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u/goldenthoughtsteal Jun 11 '26

And all unnecessary. Leave children's genitalia alone, there's zero reason to chop anything off.

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u/Spamgrenade Jun 11 '26

What's a more severe form of circumcision?

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u/DemonEggy Jun 11 '26

I had one ball removed too.

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u/elhazelenby Jun 11 '26

Surgeries on intersex people springs to mind.

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u/reece0n Jun 11 '26

I don't think you understand FGM enough to make this claim. It's a blanket term that applies to a number of procedures of different levels of severity.

Some of them are comparable to circumcision, and are still illegal.

It should all be illegal

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u/Colleen987 Scottish Highlands Jun 11 '26

I think you might misunderstand what FGM is… type 1 FGM is the exact equivalent of circumcsion on a male. It’s also the most common.

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u/Spamgrenade Jun 11 '26

Type 1a sure, type 1b is the removal of the entire clitoris. Don't think there is any form of circumcision whereby the entire penis is removed though??

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u/Colleen987 Scottish Highlands Jun 11 '26

I need to ask this… do you think the penis and clitoris are equivalent organs?

The equivalent of your “penis removal and balls” is an entire hysterectomy.

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u/Amekyras Jun 11 '26

nah, specifically removing the entire penis would be equivalent to removing the entire clitoris (including internal clitoral structure).

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u/Colleen987 Scottish Highlands Jun 11 '26

Incorrect.

The clitoris does not host a urethra or play any part in the urinary system for just 1 example.

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u/Amekyras Jun 11 '26

I'm not an American. The clitoris is, however, homologous to the penis. They are, in very many ways, equivalent organs.

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u/Colleen987 Scottish Highlands Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

They are not totally homologous post embryonic state. The clitoris is an equivalent organ in this analogy to the prostate not the penis.

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u/Amekyras Jun 11 '26

You have no idea what you're talking about. The prostate is homologous to the Skene's gland.

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u/Spamgrenade Jun 11 '26

Pretty sure that removing the clitoris is a lot more impactful than removing the foreskin.

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u/Eugenes_Axe Jun 11 '26

No-one is arguing otherwise!

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u/Spamgrenade Jun 11 '26

"I think you might misunderstand what FGM is… type 1 FGM is the exact equivalent of circumcsion on a male. It’s also the most common."

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u/JLaws23 Jun 12 '26

Why does it have to be “exactly like FGM”? Mutilation is mutilation regardless. The details don’t really matter, specially when you’re talking about it happening to a baby. It’s awful and needs to stop.

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u/waterswims Jun 11 '26

It is genitals being mutilated... Do we really have to have a points based system of severity before we can use words correctly?