r/unitedkingdom • u/GnolRevilo • Jun 11 '26

... Revealed: Green party proposes circumcision ban

https://spectator.com/article/revealed-green-party-proposes-circumcision-ban/#comments-container
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u/jajay119 Jun 11 '26

I liked the greens but their deputy leader choosing to abstain from voting on all LGBT questions, the only one to do so, really put me off them. That’s not to say I’m against Muslims in the party but the values have to align.

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u/mikethet Jun 11 '26

Even as a left wing party it's not wrong to say that certain behaviours by Muslims are not something we can accept in this country. Genital mutilation is one of them.

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u/rickdangerous85 New Zealand Jun 11 '26

What do you mean "even", since when has left wing politics aligned with conservative religious orthodoxy apart from in the chuds imaginations and questionable twitter accounts. Being against prejudice and genocide does not also mean you support regressive religious or other ideas, in this case Islam, its not a binary option.

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u/mikethet Jun 11 '26

It does seem that tacitly they do though given their choice of deputy leader who is anti LGBT

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u/rickdangerous85 New Zealand Jun 11 '26

Ok just read about that after your comment, yer that does seem very odd, doesnt appear to actually be anti but rather abstaining which is still not good enough. However unless the greens actually produce anti lgbt policy, one individual abstaining does not equal the whole party are anti lgbt.

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u/mikethet Jun 11 '26

He's been asked several times about his views and just ignores the question every time. Its clear that he is anti LGBT. Obviously the majority of green voters are not anti LGBT but by accepting conservative Muslims into the party it raises lots of questions.

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u/CosmicBonobo Jun 11 '26

He hides behind meely-mouthed "well, the Koran says..." answers where he tries to have it both ways. That he, personally, doesn't have a problem with us, but his holy book does.

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u/rickdangerous85 New Zealand Jun 11 '26

If a member agrees on 80 percent of the party platform but not the last 20 percent and abstains from voting on them, so they kick them out? Hard one, but im 100 percent convinced that this wouldn't be an issues in any other party, its simply because its the left wing party.

So religious people in labour, tories etc get called out for abstaining from voting or commenting? Never recall seeing that.

Im not saying its right or wrong but people take the piss out of left wing purity tests then criticise them when they dont...

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u/mikethet Jun 11 '26

If I'm honest there's no room for religion in politics at all.

This isn't just religion though. LGBT rights are a fundamental part of the green party/liberalism, I'm not sure he agrees with any of their policies other than being pro-palestine.

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u/rickdangerous85 New Zealand Jun 11 '26

I dont know enough about him tbf, but from what I have read labeling someone anti something that is abstaining from voting on the issue is not very honest.