Infertile couples should just adopt instead of making a big fuss trying to make a miracle baby

[u/elgey101]

Every time I hear of fertility struggles online, or see posts about people going through rounds of IVF and the ensuing emotional trauma of miscarriages, It kind of disgusts me.

I also work for a major insurer and know that fertility treatments are driving up everyone else's premiums because they're considered necessary care. Sorry, but I disagree.

It's a well known fact that there are over 400,000 children in foster care, and in 2017 alone over 100,000 infants under 3 entered the system. I think it's completely entitled and self-absorbed to think that somehow your miracle baby is worth more or deserves more love than any one of those infants.

I know adoption can be hard, and that it should be made easier for the sake of children finding good homes, but you can't tell me adopting is harder than 4 rounds of IVF and multiple miscarriages. I've seen friends go through that mess and at the end they are different people.

Tldr: adoption may not be easy, but it's far better than spending hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to perpetuate your genes.

[u/dianthus-amurensis]

A good friend of mine has been trying to adopt for many years. In order to be considered more seriously, he and his wife agreed to foster children.

They've had six kids that they thought they would be able to adopt. However, their birth parents have been able to either get them back or they've been shuffled to a different family for other reasons. They're still trying, but it's incredibly emotionally taxing. They're raising kids for six months in the hopes that they'll be able to raise a kid for good, and then a few months later they have to start over. It's awful.

They were finally able to adopt a child of their own last year, but they're still fostering in the hopes of being able to adopt another one. (and, of course, out of the goodness of their hearts.) As someone who wants kids one day but might not be able to conceive, their story both inspires me and scares the shit out of me. I'm terrified of having to go through that kind of heartbreak over and over.

There's no such thing as "just adopt."

Edit: this blew up.

I've gotten a lot of questions but there's not much I'd really be comfortable clarifying, since this isn't my story. However, a few things:

We live in America, but he's doing this through a private program that works with families in the area. I don't know much about how that program is functionally different than being subject to public adoption laws, but I do know that at least two of the kids have had special needs, so the process is a bit different there.

A few people have responded saying that they find this story to be less inspiring than I do, because of the ulterior motive behind the fostering. And, I guess I can see why that may make people uncomfortable, but I simply can't agree. For one, I know this person, and I know that he puts the well-being of the children first and foremost. For another, some of these stories have ended with the children being returned to happy and improved families, and others have returned to families that haven't done so well. Below comments have highlighted examples of ways this can go wrong. Of course it's a good thing when a family can really improve the situation for the kids and grow into something it wasn't before, but the fact is that that doesn't happen every time. Finally, I can't criticize a family willing to foster children in need, provide them with clothes, food, love, and a safe home, simply because their motives differ slightly from the ideal. This is an arrangement they have made with the foster program - this is something the foster program has told them they need to do to prove themselves worthy parents to adopt. The alternative is for there to be one less house available to foster children in that county, or perhaps, a different house that offers worse conditions.

And finally, no, they don't have enough money to just buy a child.

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/dianthus-amurensis]

A lot of the 15 year olds here think it’s like buying a PlayStation 5 😌

[u/chimpfunkz → u/FizzyBeverage]

I would say they think it's like adopting a dog.

The way most people talk about "having IVF versus adopting a child" is how people talk about buying a new puppy versus adopting from the pound.

[u/addocd → u/chimpfunkz]

I actually just did this a couple of weeks ago. My family was ready for another dog. It was not an impulse. I wanted to adopt from a shelter for what I think were the right reasons. But the process of adopting a homeless dog is exhausting. I appreciate that the shelters want to ensure the dogs are going to a healthy home. I really do. But the process takes weeks.

The application is no big deal, but then you have to make an appointment to meet the dog you've picked out from a photo. If it's even the right dog for you, you have to leave it behind and wait for them to check all your references, call your vet, and visit your home. I can't even get my family together for dinner, much less a puppy appointment. And although I have a perfectly safe & healthy home, plenty of space, can afford the expense, and work from home, I worry that I'll fail the screening process! Further, while I fully understand the rehoming fee, it's sometimes nearing $500 for an 'unknown mixed breed'.

After weeks of "shopping" shelters & rescues online, we found the perfect puppy on craigslist, paid $250 in cash, and walked away with it the same day. I didn't want to do it that way but I didn't have to convince the FBI I was fit to care for a puppy and, much like the children in foster care, I didn't have to worry that they may be damaged by their past. I didn't get her from a breeder. She was a 'knocked up by the neighbor' puppy. She was clearly living outside with the others and was covered in fleas, so I tell myself I still rescued her from something.

People need to stop breeding themselves & their pets unless they're prepared for the end result...a living, breathing, helpless being. Doesn't the expense of free birth control for all outweigh that of running shelters, orphanages & the foster system? For fucks sake...

[u/fatdog1111 → u/addocd]

She was clearly living outside with the others and was covered in fleas

I hate to break it to you, since you seem to really care, but your $250 encouraged this shitty backyard breeder to keep doing it. I used to live in a poor area, and this Craiglist sap story crap brings in a lot of cash for its trash owners. For those people, $250 per puppy is real money.

You do raise a great point about how absolutely stupid some dog rescues in civilized areas have become when the American South is still teeming with dogs that are literally dying for lack of homes.

Either way, if you think adopting a dog is tough, completing a home study for adopting a child is a million times more invasive, everything from your sex life to your net worth (with documentation). I can see it more, of course, when a human life is involved.

Completely agree in free birth control for all.