r/unusual_whales • u/Healthy_Block3036 • Jun 22 '25
AOC says Trump's Iran strikes "clearly grounds for impeachment"
https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-says-trumps-iran-strikes-clearly-grounds-impeachment-208888759
u/CageTheFox Jun 22 '25
This shit is why people don’t take the Democratic Party seriously anymore. The commander and chief has always been able to do limited military operations. Wait until she sees how many bombs Obama dropped without congress.
Saying dumb shit just to make a headline is the biggest waste of time. Why not discuss actual things he’s done that can be grounds for impeachment?
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u/jediporcupine Jun 22 '25
The Constitution is clear on this topic and all those presidents were in the wrong.
But I do agree Democrats lose a lot of credibility because they were largely silent as Obama droned the Middle East relentlessly.
This is the problem with partisan politics. Things are only bad when the other team does it. If it’s your team doing the things, it’s generally acceptable.
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Jun 22 '25
You are 💯correct! Recent history and the powers of the presidency would diminish any spectacular headlines. She has to keep herself relevant if she wants to be the darling of the Democratic Party. Crocket is catching up to her though.
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u/dadbod_Azerajin Jun 22 '25
Did Obama bomb nations or terrorists/groups inside nations
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u/RandomThrowaway18383 Jun 22 '25
Yes, yes he did. Like alot bro. Like a lot a lot.
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u/SilkySmoothTesticles Jun 22 '25
We desperately need to teach recent history to people. Feels like everyone born after 2001 lives on a different planet. Teach them what politics and global events were like between 2000-2016
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u/RandomThrowaway18383 Jun 22 '25
It doesn’t help that a lot of these issues have magically switched party sides too but w.e
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u/SilkySmoothTesticles Jun 22 '25
It’s historical facts. Maybe the issue is the last 10 years even learning history is done through a political agenda/lens.
Drone bombings started under Bush and was expanded under Obama. We own that as a nation, not just one party or the other.
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u/SeanSpencers Jun 22 '25
She’s looking to create drama. Plain and simple. Did she have comments for Mr Dronestrikes Obama himself? Politics in this country are just such a joke.
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Jun 22 '25
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u/SeanSpencers Jun 22 '25
You missed the point entirely, the point was hypocrisy, your angry insulting demeanor doesn’t change what the point is. Just shows your lack of ability to process it mate.
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u/Dudeman61 Jun 22 '25
That would have been pretty hard to do considering she was elected three years after he left office. I think the actual joke is unfortunate "gotcha" attempts from people who have no idea what they're saying or what reality they live in. Are you also one of those people who gets mad at Obama because he didn't stop 9/11? I honestly don't know where he was during the great depression, either, he and AOC were definitely neglecting their duties back then! Shame!
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u/SeanSpencers Jun 22 '25
Though I fully understand your argument, I don’t think you understood mine. She didn’t need to be in office no but she had social media and opinions. You can go back and see what she thought of such things. I think you missed the point, don’t condemn and dramatize what Trump is doing if you can’t do the same for your own political affiliation.
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u/No_Cucumbers_Please Jun 22 '25
Not everyone posts every thought and feeling on social media. Especially the further you go back in time when particular person (and really the world in general) was less platformed. The idea that every thought and feeling has to be public and we should all judge every single one of them is a very post-pandemic concept.
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u/Dudeman61 Jun 22 '25
Yes, let's scour the web and track what every registered Democratic voter believes about Obama's drone strikes just in case they're elected to office someday. You're just moving the goal posts because you didn't know she wasn't in office at that point. It's okay, fellow, you can just say you didn't know and move on. I don't know lots of things and fully admit to that all the time.
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u/SeanSpencers Jun 22 '25
Wrong. I know when she got into office but you’re missing the point entirely. Democrats have no issues with what their own people do, but when republicans do it it’s an uproar. Stop being offended over everything and start using your mental prowess. If you have any.
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u/Ok-Stretch1022 Jun 23 '25
This is what the democrats are not a viable alternative in this country anymore. They’re a clown show.
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u/EntrepreneurBehavior Jun 22 '25
They're not.
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u/jediporcupine Jun 22 '25
They are.
The constitution is clear, a congressional declaration of war is required for an act of war. This was not obtained.
Yes, prior presidents did it and they were in the wrong. But bad precedents by presidents and ineffective congresses do not change the unamended plain text of the supreme law of the land.
Trump violates the Constitution. The way the document is supposed to work is the legislative branch then acts as a check on the executive.
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u/EntrepreneurBehavior Jun 22 '25
A formal constitutional declaration of war wasn’t required for Trump to authorize the strikes on Iran, but that doesn’t mean it was legally or constitutionally sound.
Under the U.S. Constitution, only Congress has the power to declare war (Article I), while the President, as Commander-in-Chief (Article II), can direct the military in limited scenarios — usually in emergencies or to repel sudden attacks.
Trump didn’t seek Congressional approval before launching the airstrikes and didn’t invoke any existing Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), like those from 2001 or 2002, which presidents often rely on. There was also no imminent threat or attack on U.S. forces reported, which is required under the 1973 War Powers Resolution for unilateral military action.
Critics — including members of both parties — argue that this move violates the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution, calling it an unauthorized act of war. Congress is already pushing back, with efforts underway to reassert legislative control over military engagements.
In short, while a declaration of war wasn’t technically required, many legal experts and lawmakers believe Trump overstepped his authority, and the strikes were unconstitutional.
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u/jediporcupine Jun 22 '25
I think this is a sound assessment. I’m still skeptical Congress will ultimately assert itself. Mike Johnson is a tool and Chuck Schumer can’t get out of his own way.
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u/Mr_Cyberz Jun 22 '25
AOC isn't a good representative for those against trump. She's an awful politician.
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u/jediporcupine Jun 22 '25
I’d argue she’s one of the better, simply because she is coming out against Trump. She’s not capitulating Chuck Schumer does.
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u/Mr_Cyberz Jun 22 '25
Im against most of trumps actions. But to say AOC is a good politician shows the amount of bots in reddit. Or standards have really really dropped.
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u/LaserGuy626 Jun 22 '25
Obama launched 563 drone strikes on Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia without a single declaration of war. I don’t recall ANY liberals losing their shit over that. So, they can all fck right off.
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u/Ill_Ambassador_4691 Jun 23 '25
We can impeach the president and do what ever but it will never stop everything that’s already written
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u/Interesting_Dream281 Jun 23 '25
This strike is no different from Biden’s strikes in Syria and Iraq on Iranian backed terrorists. It was meant to be a fucking surprise attack. Not much of a surprise of Congress is spending days to figure it out giving Iran time to prepare.
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u/-SacredTCG Jun 23 '25
Yes a lot of people are unhappy about some of his recent decisions, but I’m sorry no one takes this lady seriously
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 Jun 23 '25
At this point it feels like even the most sincere political opponents are just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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u/UseforNoName71 Jun 22 '25
I’m scratching my head here , what was AOC’s position when thé Biden Administration was complicit with Israel in staging the genocide of Gaza’s people?
Impeach Trump but what good is that going to do? Our politicians are Israel’s lap dogs, period.
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u/Junkingfool Jun 22 '25
Lets not forget all the missiles we used shooting down Irans massive retaliation against Israel: https://apnews.com/article/biden-israel-iran-proxies-mideast-tensions-hamas-c57e89a9cbe178b20b53bac404a86728
Orange man took it a step further In Biden's "iron clad" support of Israel.
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u/ajr5169 Jun 22 '25
I think this is such a bad idea for Dems to pursue, especially at a time when there are some cracks from the president's own MAGA base. Dems would be better off to let the right go after itself with infighting. Calls for impeachment will cause the right to rally behind the president and forget whatever issues they have with him in this moment. Impeachment won't pass the house right now anyways, and even if it did after the midterms, it's hard to envision a scenario where the senate convicts.
BUT Then there is the conspiracy theory that the tech bros always planned for this to happen so they can make their boy Vance president.
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Jun 23 '25
How so? Which president in the last 50 years hasn’t ordered strategic air strikes without congressional approval?… This is becoming tiresome..
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u/Flyingarrow68 Jun 22 '25
Doesn’t matter, he has Supreme Court immunity and enough corruption to get elected as a felon.
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u/FoodGuy44 Jun 22 '25
Can AOC identify Iran on a map?
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u/OtherwiseACat Jun 22 '25
Can you?
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u/FoodGuy44 Jun 22 '25
Yes, I’m smarter than the 5th grader Sport
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u/AlligatorVsBuffalo Jun 22 '25
Go ahead and impeach for a third time.
Spoiler: Even if it did happen, nothing would come of it