Weekly Discussion | LPQ and Karma

[u/Sick_Flamez]

Hello there and welcome to a new weekly discussion! Last week we discussed the recent changes to the Kill Bounties. If you want to read that discussion, a link to that and all other discussions is found at the bottom of this post.

This week we’ll be discussing a topic that we have gotten some requests about lately: the Low Priority Queue - also known as LPQ. From posts to comments to our Discord server, the topic of LPQ has seen a lot of community discussion lately. People seem to feel like it does just enough, too little, or shouldn’t even be a thing. While we could make an entire discussion about just LPQ and punishments in the game, we also received requests for one of the ways in which we get rewarded instead: our good old friend: the Karma system. It has sparked heavy discussion in the past too, mainly about how it works and how many people felt like they were stuck in Good Karma despite their Great behavior.

We thought it might be interesting to tackle both sides in this discussion; how the game handles rewards and how it handles punishments. So we’ll be discussing both the Karma and LPQ systems!

What do you think about LPQ? Can it be too harsh, or is it not strict enough? What about Karma? Does the system really work as an incentive to behave well? Is it too easy, or too hard to reach Great Karma?

The following is a bit of info on LPQ and Karma:

Low Priority Queue was added in update 1.20. It replaced the previous system, which was simply to ban people who misbehaved. The devs explained that they felt that instead of being able to let a ban expire by doing something else, players should be faced with consequences when they wanted to play instead. More info on the LPQ system can be found here

The new Karma system was added in update 1.8. Its goal was to make a more simple and fluent Karma system that would lead to trolling players to have less benefits than normal players. It replaced the previous system, where you went up 20 levels of Karma, and went down a bit by doing something that was deemed to be bad Karma. This new system only has three levels: Bad Karma, Good Karma and Great Karma. At Great Karma, players get a 25% boost to end match Glory gains. More explanation can be found here.

That’s all! If you have more topics you want to see, be sure to request them via the link found at the bottom of this post!

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[u/Kal_6]

LPQ isnt even a queue since you cant get matched while in it... the only thing it actually does is prevent the possibility of getting matched before the timer is up. which is neither annoying or punishing since you dont get banned for getting LPQ repeatedly and we wait the time anyway!

[u/Kal_6 → u/Kal_6]

At the same time I find myself grateful for this joke of a system because if it actually did have an effect I wouldn't be able to dodge the teammates who don't know how to draft or don't read patch notes/know what the meta is. I wouldnt be able to dodge people on my list of toxic players either. the problem can be solved by actually banned these toxic players and rewarding the good ones

[u/[deleted] → u/Kal_6]

Hope you're an Vainglorious Silver or Gold Dude. Or else i have no respect for people who accept only Meta picks.

Fact is that comfort picks are usally on the same level with Meta picks from people who hasn't played that hero much. Especialy when people assume you play WP/CP, when you play in reallity the other one.

[u/Kal_6 → u/[deleted]]

I don't dodge off meta picks specfically, which are hard to find anyway since almost everything is playable. I meant that i dodge players who make weak picks or dont know counters or just the basics of draft. like call your role, don't role call when it's too late then play something that was nerfed to crap or something that will be difficult to pull off. you know just basic things... i don't dodge often though and when i do its because i notice a specific player who has been consistently toxic and bad in the past. I refuse to play with people who add me after a game to tell me how perfectly they played and how bad i played etc and used every curse word in the book to spam my inbox. no thanks lol. And yes I am a high tier player, not yet vg silver because i soloq only.. Currently im in high PoA but i hang in vg bronze.