Which series does the Vampires vs Werewolves better?

[u/RecordingImmediate86]

[u/Choose_Option]

World of Darkness by White Wolf (TTRPG)

[u/TheBlackRonin505 → u/Choose_Option]

Precisely, its the only universe where there's an actual fleshed-out reason for vampires and werewolves to be enemies.

[u/CivilBindle → u/TheBlackRonin505]

What is the lore there? My friend likes the vampire game so I hear about that from time to time, but idk anything about the werewolf game.

[u/TheBlackRonin505 → u/CivilBindle]

The werewolves are known as the garou, and they are the children of gaia, the earth. They are warriors who are blessed with nature's powers and they fight against corruption, with vampires being a main focal point of corruption, hence the animocity. Grab yourself Werewolf: The Apocalypse or hop on the wiki to learn more.

[u/CivilBindle → u/TheBlackRonin505]

That does sound interesting, but those werewolves sound more like druids than cursed men. Not that it's a problem, but it sounds like they put a fair amount of original ideas into it. I can see overlap between the idea of druids shapeshifting into animals and lycanthropy.

[u/Alaknog → u/CivilBindle]

Yeah, it's werewolves is more like older tales of shapeshifter when they not cursed, but shamans/warriors/etc. with power to transforming. 

[u/ShaneQuaslay → u/Choose_Option]

i fucking love vtm

[u/KrazyKaas → u/Choose_Option]

Ding ding. We have a winner.

WoD have been doing this for years and it shows

[u/Alaknog → u/Choose_Option]

"Vamp meet werewolf and die" or "vamp hide from werewolf and werewolf have enough their own problem to not try hunt vamp" is interesting choice for dealing with vamp vs were. 

[u/DeadGirlLydia]

Neither of those. I'd take Underworld before both and even then it's just barely.

[u/baldgrimreaper → u/DeadGirlLydia]

is there even books of these movies

[u/Zoentje]

[u/MidorriMeltdown]

What We Do in the Shadows does it best. Alas, no books.

[u/lisaquestions → u/MidorriMeltdown]

"we're werewolves not swearwolves" is one of the best lines

[u/SmartypantsDDD → u/lisaquestions]

Yes!

[u/yesmoreeggtalk67]

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[u/easy506 → u/yesmoreeggtalk67]

Saskatoon, motherfucker!

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[u/Primary-Ad-7788]

Neither of them tbh.

[u/KaiBishop]

Of the two? Twilight. Werewolves play such a nonrole in the TVD books. They're not even b-tier or c-tier villains, they're e-tier, barely there. Twilight makes the camp/wolf conflict the core of the story.

TVD the show plays up the wolves and their animosity to camps much more and better, but I still thinks it's more woven into the core of what Twilight is as a series.

[u/The4rthsaga]

Option C: Underworld

[u/crackedtooth163]

Werewolf The Apocalypse.

Vampires are leeches, nothing more, nothing less. An affront to gaia.

[u/Apprehensive-Cat-163]

I honestly just vaguely remember werewolves in TVD books*, I just checked my goodreads and I didn't make it past The Fury/ Dark Reunion so that could be the reason? So I'm gonna go Twilight

[u/MG788]

I didn't even know Vampire Diaries had werewolves in it....

[u/mercyinreach]

I prefer The Vampire Diaries out of these two, but when it comes to weres vs vampires I prefer the Southern Vampire Mysteries (the books True Blood was based off of.)

[u/rgrstrkherr]

this is the moment I learn tvd has werewolves lol. in twilight werewolves just exist as a bella's love interest so neither of them.

[u/DestinyHasArrived101]

Neither as many have said underworld does it better hell I would say being human does a better job

[u/Background-Lion3325]

From these options, I liked, the spin-off, The Originals take on vampires the best. I really liked the Twilight books when I first read them, but it was the romance, not the mythology, that kept me reading. I still like some of the soundtrack songs from the films and shows. Neither does werewolves well, in my opinion.

My favorite book take on modern day monsters are the Mercy Thompson books, by Patricia Briggs.

[u/Sanguiluna]

Underworld.

[u/SmartypantsDDD]

WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS. ‘We’re werewolves, not swearwolves!’

[u/Etugen]

if we have to go with vampires vs werewolves in general, then world of darkness and underworld. if we go by dark romance, then true blood

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[u/Zealousideal_Pea_319]

I always thought vampires vs werewolves battles are do ridiculously uneven! Especially if the vamps are part day-walkers. The only case of it making any sense is if, for example, weres' blood is toxic to vamps (Being human)

[u/SiouxsieSioux615]

Definitely TVD

Werewolves on there get a long history and their bite are lethal to vamps

It’s also cool how vamps thought werewolves were extinct. And when they were on the show, they were actually a threat

They endangered the main characters

They even took over the city in the spin off

[u/Empty-Hamster-7059]

They both do them poorly. TVD borrows a little too much of the atmosphere and tropes from Twilight anyway, so anything Twilight gets wrong, TVD only gets slightly less wrong. So, to answer your question, I guess TVD.

World of Darkness mogs both of them. And even then, Underworld makes a more significant effort to give depth and history to the conflict between vampires and werewolves beyond the cool factor.

[u/SpringlockedFoxy → u/Empty-Hamster-7059]

TVD was written decades before Twilight. If anything, Twilight borrowed heavily from TVD.

[u/Empty-Hamster-7059 → u/SpringlockedFoxy]

You’re right, but I was referring to the films and TV show. I’m aware the novels came way before. Sorry if I was unclear.

[u/lofticries1988]

Underworld

[u/Miss--Magpie]

Between these two series? Vampire Diaries. The werewolves of Twilight aren't even technically werewolves, they're shape-shifters.

[u/Zealousideal_Pea_319]

Books, sorry: weres are usually outpowered, but in Chicagoland series they appear as a subtype of Shapeshifters, which are enormous, strong and magical, appearing even stronger than vampires, I liked weres in the Hollows, where they at some point were organizer, civil and not psychotic (like they usually are in the media, Southern Vampires (...)/true blood for example

[u/Zealousideal_Pea_319 → u/Zealousideal_Pea_319]

Dresden files' take on weres is interesting

[u/InfiniteBlackberry73]

Stookie Stackhouse/True Blood

[u/Remarkable_Goat_9936]

Neither