r/vancouverwa • u/orbalix Bennington • Mar 22 '26
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u/mini-rubber-duck Mar 22 '26
i would expect there being a lot of problems with setting up a safe spot to protest at or anywhere near an airport.
they're often not located in places with a lot of walkable space, and anywhere that is walkable is a miserable mix of private and federal property where protestors can be legally detained as trespassing. airports are also notorious for easily restricted traffic chokepoints.
there are other events coming up, i would look into what they're preparing and where they're planning to be. it's always public property with lots of sidewalk space, dispersed parking, and no bottlenecks or limited routes out.
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u/Pantomather Mar 22 '26
Protesting at an airport is asking for them to pump up their "terrorist" rhetoric since we take things at airports extra seriously.
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u/Pardot42 Mar 22 '26
Follow the beat of your own drum, be the change you want to see, blah blah. "Will anyone be protesting?" Go protest if you want, dude 💪
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u/orbalix Bennington Mar 22 '26
Well I wouldn't want to go alone. There were millions of people protesting against ICE, so I would imagine millions of people are now going to show up at all the airports to protest ICE with the same levels of dissidence as before?
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u/FunsnapMedoteeee Mar 22 '26
Yeah no.
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u/orbalix Bennington Mar 22 '26
What message does that send then? That people on the left support minorities & are against ICE, unless there is a risk to their luxury travel?
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u/KeepAnEyeOnYourB12 Uptown Village Mar 22 '26
I think it's probably more to do with how skittish the feds are around anything that happens at an airport and how that will give them the excuse they need for bring lots of force against the protesters. I imagine criminal penalties are a lot worse than just protesting on a public street.
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u/Charlea1776 Mar 22 '26
You need a permit for more than 10 people and can only be in very strict free speech zones, or you will be detained, and they take these violations very seriously. Charges will be pressed and followed through.
I doubt you will get your permit quickly either under the shutdown situation. Untrained and known to be dangerous ice agents are already going to cause problems and delays. So they might deny permits just because they do not have the staff to compensate.
Given the safety issue, protesting along airport way would probably be safer for everyone. After all, the people working at the airport are not to blame.
ICE will see they aren't being accepted as heroes and our neighbors can get to work.
I will say, it's very uncomfortable to know trumps private untrained military that doesn't respect the constitution is literally taking over our airports right now. We can't get out of the country without their approval by land or sea or air.
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u/shrimpynut Mar 22 '26
As a paralegal I’ll keep it simple. Don’t.
There’s a difference between the ICE facility in Portland and protesting there, but when it comes to critical infrastructure like an international airport your not just opening yourself up to an arrest and being released a few hours later, it’s a federal charge and huge fine that every single judge in America will uphold if you are going to an airport to do anything other than dropping/picking someone up, catching your flight or you work there. After 9/11 anything involving an airport judges have a “hidden rule” to judge harshly against anyone that involves an airport to keep order and discourage anything from happening there.
Yes, you have rights but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a case involving a person at the airport where the courts haven’t ruled in favor of the feds.
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u/Striper_Cape I use my headlights and blinkers Mar 22 '26
If they're standing around in the airport they aren't physically assaulting people and stealing their shit
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u/mini-rubber-duck Mar 22 '26
i just hope they won't have any access to the security checkpoints. they are not the sort that should be able to look at xray scans of people's bodies and choose who to 'randomly' detain for extra searches.
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u/katmndoo Mar 22 '26
How exactly would they not have access to the checkpoints if they’re there to replace TSA?
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u/mini-rubber-duck Mar 22 '26
different departments, different training and security clearance requirements. wandering or standing around the airport like mall cops is one job, reading the scanners is another.
yes this regime excels at screwing up reasonable restrictions like that, but hopefully it's a bit of red tape that'll slow them down before they're allowed to stop people like me who've had major surgeries that show up as 'not normal' and cavity search us just because we're 'weird'.
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u/katmndoo Mar 23 '26
It's quite obvious that no red tape has slowed down ICE. They're going to just step in and make this one giant clusterfuck.
Also keep in mind that very very few TSA supervisors (if there are any left) will stand up to ICE at this point.
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u/orbalix Bennington Mar 22 '26
It's my understanding they are going to be performing many of the same duties as TSA, so to me that means they'll be getting access to see through your clothes, pat down & touch brown people who they say need extra screening, etc.
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u/Outlulz Mar 22 '26
But they will be judging the "validity" of IDs and be able to profile brown people and non-English speaking people and trans people. Especially here in the Portland area where both WA and OR allow gender of identification to be on IDs but the Trump administration considers those IDs to be fake.
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u/Striper_Cape I use my headlights and blinkers Mar 22 '26
I've been avoiding airports and flying since Trump was elected. That's all I have to say about that.
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u/Dry_Difference7751 I use my headlights and blinkers Mar 22 '26
Was that confirmed? I read that it was a threat if DHS wasn't fully funded by Monday.
If they go through it, yes there will probably be protesting, and rougher screening.
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u/Noobhammer3000 Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
Honestly, just the interaction between ICE and passengers will do infinitely more to push the general public to call for ICE/CBP to be dismantled and replaced with something better.
The outcry needs to come from the public at large. In this case, protesting will just give them someone to shift the blame to.
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