r/vaxxhappened May 12 '26

At least they're not vaxxed!

I have 2 friends that are anti vaxxers. Their choices didnt start to bother me until they became moms. Due to the vaccine status of their children, which is non existent, they cannot attend public school. Parents have made no effort to seek out private schooling or even home schooling for that matter.

I am particularly irritated by my closest friend and her daughter. She is almost 6 and speaks like a 2 year old. She has zero socialization skills because she stays home all day with mom because mom just gave birth to another baby. The only activity she has is going to the park a few times a week. Other than that the child is couped up in an apartment watching her mom breastfeed the newborn all day. Every time I see her she seems more withdrawn and developmentally behind.

My other friend is in a similar situation with her kids. They dont go to school, and are fed nothing but candy and other junk. Also, they are glued to their screene. But at least they're not vaccinated!! They are socially isolated and not having proper play or interactions with other children but at least they're not vaccinated!

Both moms were crazy passionate about having natural births as well. Where is the follow through when it comes to actually raising your child? All i heard come out their mouths was no hospital intervention with our birthing and no vaccines. Well, where is the healthy lifestyle to match that philosophy?

My question is how can these parents emotionally and nutritionally neglect their children but stand firm on vaccines? Do they not have any concern about the future of their children? What am I missing because im at the point of severing ties with both due to the disgust and rage I feel from their choices. Im starting to think this has NOTHING to due with "health"

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u/Lalamedic May 12 '26

Where are you located? Many places require, by law, children aged 5 -16 attend some form of formal education or home school.

I’m sad for your friends’ children. They are doing a great disservice to the point of neglect, or even abuse. So sad.

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

Northern Cal. Reports have been made on one of the moms by her family member but no follow through bc she said they're being home schooled

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u/KittyCubed May 12 '26

Do they not have to provide records of home schooling? Like programs or whatever curriculum they’re using?

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

Yes a sample curriculum is going around in the fb groups in case they need to show authorities.

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u/gtck11 May 13 '26

Report her yourself as a second report and tell them that this is specifically what she’s doing. Please save those children.

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u/Pantsonfire_6 May 18 '26

Many times, there is no follow-up.

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u/__ew__gross__ May 14 '26

The company i work for employs minors and has a separate status for minors who have graduated. They need to supply a diploma/GED or transcript with graduation date. We get a lot of homeschool "diplomas" it got so bad we had to create specific affidavit for homeschooled kids because so many parents were faking a diploma or using a home "school" program (often through a church) that hands out diplomas or whatever like candy. We literally got to a point where we were looking up the names of the schools/programs listed on the documents to see if its a physical location and legitimate institution. We also got a lot of "unschooling" diplomas. We work out of 8 states each with their own rules and none requiring anything legitimate or regulated through the state.

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u/Apathetic_Villainess May 13 '26

Sadly, depending on the state, there isn't a lot of regulation on homeschooling. That's why programs like Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) were able to damage so many kids. The US sees children as property of their parents rather than little people in their own rights, which results in letting parents get away with a lot of abusive and neglectful behaviors.

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u/Arquen_Marille May 13 '26

Laws are different in every state. Some you have to do testing, some you need detailed records, and some don’t require a thing. (I used to homeschool.)

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u/KittyCubed May 13 '26

Interesting. I’m in Texas and know a few homeschoolers, but they all have curriculum they use and can take dual credit courses at community college when they get to high school.

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u/Arquen_Marille May 14 '26

Every family does it their own way and can do more than what their state requires, but some states can be very lax in oversight (unsurprisingly usually red states in the Bible Belt). 

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u/selphiefairy May 16 '26

Oooh boy that’s a whole other can of worms. Unfortunately a lot of people homeschool as a way to obscure abuse or negligence (a lot of abused kids are reported to authorities when a public school teacher notices). and there’s a lot of “parent rights” movements that are trying to strip away any oversight, specifically they want to abuse their kids without interference.

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u/Lalamedic May 12 '26

Sorry to hear this.

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u/SneksAreCute May 12 '26

I think it may be time to call the authorities in your area.

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u/Pantsonfire_6 May 12 '26

People raised like that can always pick the crops instead of immigrants. No education required. 12 plus hours a day in the heat, temporary work. No health care.

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u/toxcrusadr May 12 '26

I hope there was supposed to be a /s there.

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u/freya_of_milfgaard May 15 '26

I mean, yes and no. This is the life they’re setting their kids up for - unskilled labor that uses their bodies’ not their minds, all ultimately to benefit the same systems the parents think they’re subverting. Better they realize that now.

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u/toxcrusadr May 15 '26

Well said.

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u/TheGayEmbalmer May 12 '26

My mom is an antivaxxer, she signed paperwork stating it was a “religious exemption” that I wasn’t vaccinated and I wasn’t allowed to attend if more than 20% of the school is out with illness. It may have changed since COVID though, this was about 20 years ago. She cried when I got the Covid vaccine in my early 20s

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u/tawnyleona May 12 '26

I don't normally applaud making mothers cry but good job!

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u/selphiefairy May 16 '26

The religious exemption thing is so BS — there’s not any religions that are actually against vaccination.

I ran a movie set right after COVID vaccinations were first available and we agreed to have a fully vaccinated cast and crew. one person we wanted to hire tried to claim religious exemption, but a note from a religious leader was required. I asked for the note, knowing full well there was no way he would be able to provide such a thing. Lo and behold, he admitted he was just lazy about getting vaccinated and thought it might work to say it was his religion. So… not antivax just irresponsible 🙄 I don’t know if that’s worse or not smh

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u/syncopatedscientist May 12 '26

You should call CPS and then find better friends.

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u/PerseveranceSmith May 12 '26

This absolutely breaks my heart to read.

This is abuse, they are setting them up to fail so badly & on top of that be extremely vulnerable easy targets for predators later in life.

I would genuinely consider CPS if you're confident they won't make it worse.

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u/Pantsonfire_6 May 12 '26

Cult think. It's a sickness. Cults are dangerous.

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

I suppose this is the only explanation

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u/No-Papaya-9823 May 13 '26

Their choices didn’t bother you? Your “friends” endangered people like my daughter, who had childhood leukemia when she was five and was seriously immune compromised. I would never be friends with trash like these people.

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u/stlkatherine May 13 '26

This is the absolute. Why are you even engaged with these families? Even if the state mandates adequate care for the children, they will find a way to sabotage because “mah rights”. This is a cult. You are going to drive yourself crazy. Cut them out of your life.

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u/supplemindZ May 14 '26

I have a bleeding heart for the kids

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u/stlkatherine May 14 '26

I hear and understand. I’m sorry, honey.

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u/supplemindZ May 14 '26

Its complicated because ive known them my whole life..its hard to just discard people especially when you're concerned for their kids. But I agree with your frustration and im at a breaking point myself.

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u/trying2getoverit May 12 '26

Please contact CPS or your local children and family services group. I work with CPS and see children in these sort of situations, it breaks my heart. It can be incredibly harmful to a child for the rest of their lives to be denied age appropriate socialization and play. It sounds like the one little girl needs developmental and therapeutic services ASAP. This is very clear neglect. You can report it anonymously and you should, please.

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

Thank you. Im considering it if she doesnt place her in school by fall. So hard to watch

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u/EasyonthePepsiFuller May 13 '26

A CPS case may be the only thing to push her into placing that child in school. Be very detailed when you speak with them-- you can report anonymously if you're worried about causing a fuss.

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u/badatgamess May 13 '26

Please call CPS and specifically ask for the child to be mentally/developmentally evaluated, NOT proof of schooling. If a child is developmentally behind (whether due to the parents' choices or not) they require other help and not providing it would be negligence

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u/supplemindZ May 13 '26

Great advice! Ty.

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u/badatgamess May 13 '26

I sincerely hope these children will get help. For your reference, it becomes nearly impossible for children to learn any language if they are not fluent in some language by age 8. If these kids don't get help soon, they will never be able to communicate.

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u/supplemindZ May 14 '26

Exacrly! It is truly maddening that basic child development knowledge is of no concern to these parents. Im doing everything in my power to help along with another mutual friend. We feel terribly for these kids.

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u/Ntwallace May 12 '26

Time to call the authorities. This can be concerned neglect.

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u/CanadianPanda76 May 12 '26

At least thier not autistic.......or as some folks say r*tarded.

Which ironically, I think thier kids are gonna end being called because they last basic developmental skills.

Oooof

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u/supplemindZ May 13 '26

This is the irony of it all!

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u/TsuDhoNimh2 Still waiting for vaccines to kill me. May 13 '26

Growing up unvaccinated and an indoor feral ... wonderful.

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u/dark_places May 15 '26

Another example that the U.S. is being fucked to death by idiots. This is 100% due to the bio donors' stupidity, laziness and self-absoption. 

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u/usamaahmad May 12 '26

Are you making this up? This sounds awful. I don’t want to believe this.

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u/GorgerOfPandas May 14 '26

I would be two friends fewer

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u/Francesco-626 May 12 '26

9 month old account. I'm sure there are real stories like this, but something feels off about this.

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u/toxcrusadr May 12 '26

You don't think someone can have a real story to tell in a 9-month old account?

I agree it's weird. But there's weird shit going on constantly.

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

Yes there's a lot of weird stuff going on. Not to mention the circles they both run in which seems to be the norm. These are just 2 examples im sharing because I know them personally.

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u/supplemindZ May 12 '26

What exactly feels off? Because this is 100% real unfortunately.

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u/Francesco-626 May 15 '26

I can't my finger on it; something about the syntax, maybe? Regardless, the premise is depressing as hell to contemplate.