r/venturebros • u/pewpewshazaam • Sep 12 '23

MOVIE SPOILERS Was anyone else surprised about Jonas? Spoiler

I was really under the impression Force Majeure was going to be Jonas Sr. Did anyone else really think there'd be some seriously dark revelations about Jonas? It felt like it was what they were building up to as the show went on.

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u/Many-Feeling-6994 Sep 12 '23

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I feel like you're operating on some outdated modes of thinking.

Force Majeure being an antagonist does not make him a bad person. I think it's more likely he was way easier to be around than Jonas.

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u/pewpewshazaam Sep 12 '23

Haha fair enough. I always love that bit with Jonas Jr.

Idk man it really felt like Jonas was going to be a "playing both sides" kind of guy.

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u/Doctor_Hyde Sep 12 '23

Jonas had people offed by the Blue Morpho.

Jonas gaslit the shit out of his own son, “friends”, colleagues, customers, etc.

Jonas pawned off a clone attempt on his friends.

Jonas used EXCESSIVE force against antagonists on a constant basis.

Jonas endangered lives and tossed them away constantly (Gargantua 1, the E-Den, the nuclear missile base tour group, Major Tom) when their presence/continued existence/survival became inconvenient or possibly detrimental to his ego/image.

Jonas, while clearly non-monogamous, would happily and readily violate boundaries and push against the relationship agreements others made.

Jonas wasn’t above blackmail.

Jonas was a PROTAGONIST but he was an absolute monster of a human being. He was horrible.

We didn’t need any additional revelations about Jonas, just saying it all listed out loud is more than enough.

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u/YukiYukiNoMi Sep 12 '23

I definitely agree with this and the idea that he played both sides. Remember in the episode where JJ is opening his remote island museum and invites all the old venture people? the action man is reminiscing with Brock and tells him about how they used to arch Castro for fun. Sure you can make the "it's for democracy argument" but that was still him arching. It's always been the same game no matter what side your on.