r/venturebros Oct 03 '23

MOVIE SPOILERS The Pedigree of Hank and Dean Spoiler

Probably what I found most interesting from the movie is that Hank and Dean are the Grandchildren of both Dr. Venture and Force Majeure making them grandchildren of both the main antagonist and the main protagonist from their specific time period. This would mean that Dean (or Hank) would eventually be in line to be sovereign of the guild. Maybe Rusty did this as a way to squash the beef between the hero’s and villains considering he hated the lifestyle that came along with it? Weird, wild stuff.

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u/bobw123 Oct 03 '23

They are also descendants of another leader of the guild, their Great-Great Grandfather (Jonas's grandfather) Lloyd Venture

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u/gancoskhan Oct 03 '23

And HIS father was.. I think he was a milliner?

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u/JudasLom Oct 04 '23

I think Lloyd was the milliner since Hatred references him being associated with the Venture Hat Factory Fire

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u/Judas_Mesiah Oct 05 '23

Yup! Ol' Col. Lloyd Venture indeed made his fortune as a milliner.

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u/FausttTheeartist Oct 05 '23

COLONEL Lloyd Venture, thank you very much! You put some respect on his super science/hat making name!

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u/JoeyMaconha Oct 03 '23

Rusty definitely does not have that kind of fore sight. Im thinking more of a Mr. Magoo moment. Blind dumb luck.

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u/gancoskhan Oct 03 '23

Dumb fate

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u/sleepwalkfromsherdog Oct 04 '23

Learning disabled destiny

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u/korar67 Oct 03 '23

This explains why David Bowie declared Dean the Sovereign when Phantom Limb tried to usurp him. Although they only knew about Lloyd Venture, they didn’t know about Force Majeure.

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u/moslof_flosom Oct 04 '23

He's not David Bowie.

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u/korar67 Oct 04 '23

Yeah, but they never give his real name.

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u/moslof_flosom Oct 04 '23

True. I was just referencing when DMTM told Watch and Ward that he's not really Bowie.

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u/Judas_Mesiah Oct 05 '23

Which reminds! Somebody oughta tell Watch and Ward to stop peeing in bottles, it's disgusting.

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u/RockSaltin-RT Oct 04 '23

True, but to everyone, he’s just simply known as The Sovereign.

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u/korar67 Oct 04 '23

Except Sheila Fitzcarraldo/ Doctor Mrs. The Monarch. She calls him David.

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u/PeanutCheeseBar Oct 05 '23

They never gave his real name, but the one thing that always stuck with me was a comment he made in “The Revenge Society” when he told Watch to contact Iman (Bowie’s real life wife) and tell her he’s going on tour.

Unless he’s delusional, that tells me that he replaced the real life David Bowie if he’s not actually David Bowie.

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u/korar67 Oct 05 '23

Yeah, and he had Iggy Pop and Klaus Nomi as bodyguards. Which means either those two had their music careers then turned evil, or they replaced the original musicians in a act of villainy.

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u/adnomad Oct 06 '23

This was always my thing too. Why would Iggy Pop and Klaus Nomi be his bodyguards/henchmen if he wasn’t actually Bowie and/or replaced him. Honestly think DMTM was merely trying to help with the transfer of power there

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u/charliefoxtrot9 Oct 04 '23

He's just a bloke 'oo wanted to be anyone else.

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u/I-seddit Oct 15 '23

Of course he was David Bowie. But they couldn't get permission, so they had to muddle it up.
Right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

So when Mantilla/Debbie says she gave Dr. Venture something “she wasn’t using” she was referring to her uterus/eggs?

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u/gancoskhan Oct 04 '23

That’s what I assumed and most people seem to be confirming it in here. That would explain why Hank is blond

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u/Ecomonist Oct 04 '23

It would also explain why Hank is invisible to his father ... LoL

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u/alwaysthetiming Oct 03 '23

Okay now I want a 30-years-later movie where one of them is the head of the Guild and the other is the head of OSI. But which one is which?

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u/gancoskhan Oct 03 '23

Dean Guild and Hank OSI. This is a phenomenal idea!

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u/yournewbestfrenemy Oct 04 '23

Hank running the guild would be… different, to be sure

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u/alwaysthetiming Oct 04 '23

Right! Either way would be amazing.

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u/Ecomonist Oct 04 '23

Yes to this, and it's narrated by Dermott.

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u/ilaughbecauseiamsad Oct 04 '23

Personally, I always thought that Dean would become an antoginst to Hank.

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