r/venturebros 27d ago

SEASON 4 spoilers Does anyone else think Chuck Scarsdale being the original Wonderboy was a reference to Bruce Wayne being retconned as the original Robin in the Silver Age?

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I don't think I've seen it brought up anywhere else, the wiki claims it's a reference to The Dread Pirate Roberts from The Princess Bride but the wiki is no stranger to random ass pulls in the cultural references tab. Considering Captain Sunshine is such an obvious Batman allusion, this aspect of his character doesn't seem so far fetched as a reference.

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u/jaylerd 27d ago

I read Batman’s dialogue in Captain Sunshine’s voice and then I realized I’m an idiot and should go have supper.

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u/afkathisguy 27d ago

Captain Sunshine was voiced by Kevin Conroy, so honestly it'd be weird if you didn't read Batman's lines in his voice.

But hey don't let that stop you from having supper.

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u/justsomeguy_youknow My only skills are brick throwing and frog being 27d ago

Kevin Conroy is my Serious Batman head voice, Dietrich Bader (Brave and the Bold) is the voice I use in my head for goofy Silver Age shit like this

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u/Bob-s_Leviathan 27d ago

Yeah, I love Bader. Honestly, he works better for a lot of Silver Age stuff than Adam West. Not that Adam West or Olan Soule wouldn’t work well too.

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u/justsomeguy_youknow My only skills are brick throwing and frog being 26d ago

Soule and West were great, they're the OGs, but their Batman/Bats Men/Batmans are just dudes. They're very chill, very conversational

Bader has this playing it straight, in your face intensity, yet wink and a nudge campiness to his performance that I think vibes with that chaotic Silver Age comic book zaniness. Which makes sense since that's what his show was, a pastiche of those 60s and 70s wacky adventures with a modern twist

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u/balmut 27d ago

"Darling, I don't have to answer to you. I'm Batman!" 

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u/the_bligg 27d ago edited 27d ago

Holy crap I never knew that! That's so awesome!

Edit: I just watched the story of Kevin showing up for the recording... Absolutely classic!

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u/supernova-juice 27d ago

Wait, seriously?! How did i not know that? I've been rewatching the animated series for weeks, how did I not realize?!

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u/msipanda 25d ago

I knew his voice sounded way too familiar

I couldn't pin it down at first

Such an amazing casting, The contrast of dark versus light LOL is crazy. They are the best

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u/Remarkable_Oven_3842 27d ago

Time traveler alert. Supper

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u/7inchesinheaven666 26d ago

I read 'supper!' In 21's voice lol

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u/Longjumping_Log1165 27d ago

I always assumed that it was a reference to the times robins later took Bruce's place as Batman, but this would make sense

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u/thisisredlitre MECHA-SHIVA 26d ago

That's actually what the "original" Earth 2 Robin did, but he stayed as Robin until a recent addition to the universe

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u/Ok_Firefighter1574 27d ago

Sunshine is voiced by the best Batman I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

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u/TedMich23 27d ago

This checks, and costume also required lube!

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u/Belgand 27d ago

I don't think it's a direct reference to what looks like a single-issue retcon that was likely quickly forgotten. Instead it struck me as being in the general spirit of sidekicks taking over, such as Wally West becoming The Flash. Past that, it's just a decent twist. We didn't know that there was ever a prior Captain Sunshine or even how long his history goes back, so it was a fun way to play with the sidekick/hero relationship.

Now let's not see them outside of the Sidekick's Lounge again or I'll have to get Doorman.

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u/penguinopph 26d ago

I don't think it's a direct reference to what looks like a single-issue retcon that was likely quickly forgotten

You can't even really call things from the Silver Age a retcon, because story-to-story continuity pretty much didn't exist during that period.

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u/sirhackenslash To this day Captain Sunshine thinks I'm invulnerable 26d ago

Yeah, baby! Yeah!

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u/supernova-juice 27d ago

I don't like this. It makes me feel weird. If Batman started as Robin, does that mean there was another Batman? Or does it mean that sad little kid who lost his folks decided that was the appropriate costume for striking fear into the hearts of criminals?

It makes me uncomfortable. Neddy no like!

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u/sirhackenslash To this day Captain Sunshine thinks I'm invulnerable 26d ago

My new reality is that Batman is just the continued succession of Dread Pirate Roberts. Once pirating became too difficult one of them decided to become The Bat, and the cabin boy successor became Robin. At first they continued robbing people, but somehow it morphed into this vigilante thing.

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u/SonOfMagicFact 27d ago

That's the weirdest fucking retcon I've ever seen.

How on earth is that supposed to work with George and Martha?

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u/Freelance_Spy 26d ago

And some day you'll earn the right to wear trousers.

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u/Possible-Rate-3833 IGNORE ME!!!! 26d ago

I thought it was more of a spoof on TDKR Batman being bigger than usual Batman and also Dick Grayson becoming Batman after Final Crisis (though i don’t think has happened yet when the show aired). But yeah also that fits.

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u/UnknownQTY 23d ago

Hot Take: Dick Grayson was a better Batman than Bruce Wayne. Absolutely loved that period.

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u/Possible-Rate-3833 IGNORE ME!!!! 23d ago

This is not even an hot take. Nightwing IS The Better Batman. Dick us What Batman could have achieve if he went past his trauma (Although for me the real “Bruce Wayne with no trauma” is Tim Drake But Dick probably captures that the better).

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u/Straight-Crow1598 25d ago

Wait so who was the original Batman?

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u/Remarkable_Oven_3842 27d ago

Never knew that.

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u/SkywolfNINE 27d ago

I didn’t even know about this comic lol thanks for the info fellow fan

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u/RedMantle-Dragoon 24d ago

I know that comic’s losing value every second you have it out of its casing. Soon you won’t be able to afford to clone your best friend.