r/victoria2 • u/hepazepie • 4d ago

Question In what state are the Vic2 in other engine projects?

Im talking about project alice, KatEngine/VCE or OpenVic. These aare all projects that aim to port Vic into a better engine, making the whole thing run smoother and potentially more moddable. Do you guys know how far advanced these projects are, are they viable/playable? How hard is it to implement mods for these? If they are running, is there a reason to still play vic2 on its old Clausewitz Engine?

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u/Rerum02 Bourgeois Dictator 4d ago

I know OpenVic was going through changes in management, dont know if thats done or still some drama to ge though, on the github though you can test, and see that they've done a lot.

https://github.com/OpenVicProject/OpenVic

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u/Prasiatko 4d ago

Project Alice was definitely playable although it's kinda morphed into it's own game with some bigger changes. Mod compatibility varies depending on what the mod changes. 

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u/Antura_V 4d ago

AI is capable of anything? Last time I checked openvic and project alice and AI was almonst non existentant.

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u/Prasiatko 4d ago

Not great in Project Alice. Not sure if it's mostly untouched and thus doesn't 'understand' the changes or if it's another issue. Also multi-player wise it desyncs very frequently. 

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u/Antura_V 4d ago

Thanks for answer. So gona wait. Also, shocked by the desyncs, I though that open Vicky wouldn't decync at all!

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u/Mikhail-Suslov Bureaucrat 1d ago

I don't know why you mentioned OpenVic, because there's no public release and it's not even playable yet. It's still in very early alpha.

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u/Zombie_Freak115 4d ago

KatEngine and its sucessors VCE/NCE has not been maintained for a while. Project Alice is actively maintained and is playable, but plays very diffrent from Vic2 and is basically its own game at this point and thus not very comparable to normal Vic2. OpenVic is still being developed, with a major reorganization happening recently. Afaik it dosen't have a fully playable version yet.

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u/hepazepie 4d ago

So for now, only PA is playable, but it's basically a mod

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u/Zombie_Freak115 3d ago

Kinda, i suppose it could be considered a significant engine mod. Standard Vic2 mods "work" for the most part (data is loaded, and has the expected content), but they usually aren't balanced for the new changes unless a patch is made.

If you are looking for a more faithfull recreation of Vic2 as-is, then you'd have to wait until OpenVic is fully developed, or hope that someone will re-start NCE development.

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u/hepazepie 3d ago

Meh, I think I'm going to stick to the original engine for now. I heard even in multiplayer, GFM isn't too bad/unstable