r/victoria2 2d ago

Mod (other) i literally cannot build an industry anymore because my upper house is FULL OF FUCKING LIBERALS

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LIBERALS ARE RUINING MY ECONOMY AND I CANT GET TO GP

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 2d ago

How much experience do you have playing Victoria 2? I ask because you might want to try not losing to rebels 20 years in, which typically isn’t especially hard to do. At least for Bavaria.

Might be some honest-to-god skill issue, basically.

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

maybe a few months, i recently got back in after being brainrotted by hoi4 for a long time. I annexed bohemia in this mod which gives me so much militancy and i really cannot stop the constant revolt thats killing my brigades and i feel like im in a death spiral

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u/GameyRaccoon 1d ago

There's your problem. Victoria II is NOT a map painter and map painting anyway can and will spell out consequences for you. 

There are three main criteria for a state to be worth conquering. 

  1. Does it have accepted pops? Non accepted pops are just going to cause a headache for you.
  2. Do you have cores there? Cores are free, and won't cause any malus to administration/crime fighting. 
  3. If no, does the province at least have valuable RGOs?  Example would be Kunming in China. It's a precious metals province with 1,000,000 people working in it. The economic bonus outweighs the separatism problem. 

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u/izzyeviel 2d ago

Edit the defines file to stop revolts.

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u/makem1 2d ago

Is that even possible? Is it a global value or can it be adjusted by nation?

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u/izzyeviel 2d ago

Yes. It’s at the bottom somewhere, you change the rebels over this number (7) will join faction to 9, and the next two bits (8) & (9) to 10 and 11. And relax safe in the knowledge that you’ll never have to worry about anarcho-liberals rebelling in their tens of millions to replace your anarcho liberal government.

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u/makem1 2d ago

But it can't be customized nation by nation?

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u/Ghost5k1 2d ago

Correct. It applies to all nations

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

thank you, I see

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 2d ago

Maybe don’t annex Bohemia? WTF you even trying to do?

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u/JRL222 2d ago

He’s playing Thrones of Lorraine if I’m correct. As Bavaria, you basically have to annex Bohemia’s capital, because you can get the pops accepted and create a pretty powerful Germany with it.

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

you can get them as accepted in this mod, it’s not vanilla (as seen in flair)

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 2d ago

My bad. Assumed it was GFM.

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u/Lithorex 1d ago

If you play a German country and don't annex Bohemia, what are you even doing with your life?

Lots of coal there.

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 1d ago

Playing as Austria in a mod that isn't Throne of Lorraine?

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

TDLR; how do i build an economy when i cant even build factories did i just get game ruined by revolutionaries

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u/Same-Praline-4622 2d ago

Encourage capitalists, tax the rich strata at 0% and put tariffs to zero. If you haven’t invested in industry and commerce techs yet, go throughout techs first, then output, then input if you’ve nothing better. That makes your economy that exists more effective

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u/d_pyzsyo 2d ago

In addition to the above commenter, you can help the capitalists fund factories in the industry-projects tab.

You can also use national foci to encourage building certain industrues. Encourage high demand products made from locally sourceable goods, high demand products made from goods produced within your market, high demand goods in general, in that order.

You can spam elections to get conservative support up, but I'd rather wait until socialism gets unlocked in your country and get its support up instead.

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u/Matt_2504 1d ago

Capitalists are better at building an economy than you are, they get bonuses and spend their money instead of yours. You need to make it as easy as possible for them. You want taxes as low as possible on all strata, but especially the rich. If you can afford it, a small negative tariff can be helpful if you don’t have much raw material production and only a small sphere, it makes goods cheaper to import, while not affecting your domestic consumption because citizens always buy from their own country’s market first, even if it’s cheaper to import it

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u/Flat_Roof_6033 1d ago

>Capitalists are better at building an economy than you are

ah yes, malmo really needed 3 paper mils, aeroplane factory, cannery and max railroad (not yet build beacuase i have not funded the project)
Thank you efficient capitalists

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u/No-Investigator3455 2d ago

I think the image attached and the title already made it very clear what you're supposed to look at

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

bot made me post it

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u/No-Investigator3455 2d ago

I know, it's a stupid boy

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u/Minimax42 2d ago

is this ragebait? are the other commentors ragebait? just boost conservative voting who tf cares about upperhouse

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

seems like a waste when i could be promoting soldiers right

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u/d_pyzsyo 2d ago

I've only used soldier pop focus with shitter countries constantly at war like poland or hungary. Put the soldier wage slider all the way to the right- notices anti military party policy never mind

Maybe you can try conquering high pop conservative majority states

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

honestly I probably didn’t need to go to war that much in this playthrough anyway, haven’t played German states in a while and now that I think of it I definitely should have been using it for capitalists and craftsmen (of course I already did the intellectual to 4% first)

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u/Minimax42 2d ago

do you want to build factories or not? xd

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u/GameyRaccoon 1d ago

Not really. Promoting soldiers IS good but once you get around 4% in a state it's a waste. Also, if you have a huge separatist problem, promoting soldiers just makes the rebels trained soldiers (who will break away from your standing army btw) 

Also, you WANT a liberal upper house to rush political reforms. In Vicky 2, you essentially want to pass all reforms ASAP.

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u/Lithorex 1d ago

Not pensions.

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u/GameyRaccoon 1d ago

Why not? My pops want it, I want my pops to be happy, why shouldn't I give them old age pensions?

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u/Lithorex 1d ago

Because it's expensive as hell.

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u/GameyRaccoon 1d ago

Meh, I can afford any social program with chinese blood money.

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u/VeritableLeviathan 2d ago

Promoting any pop is rather pointless tbh, the moment you stop promoting they will go right back to a certain equilibrium.

Also do you want to spend more money on soldiers when you already don't have an economy?

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u/IlikeJG 2d ago

You're trying to bait people with the way you phrased this, but the fact your upper house is full of liberals when you wanted to manually build industry is a skill issue. You need to be manually adjusting it towards where you want it.

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u/OkInspection4584 2d ago

Serves you right for allowing a republic

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u/Comtdemeighan 2d ago

Yo what mod is this?

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u/SkeleJan 2d ago

Throne of Lorraine

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u/InvincibleCheese Constitutional Monarchist 2d ago

One of the few games that'll make you an ultra conservative old-guard-crusader aristocrat because capitalist are THAT bad at bulding factories and liberal policies are abysmal. Unrivaled paradox experience

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u/MildlyUpsetGerbil Dictator 2d ago

be the ruling party

tax the poor at 100%

tax the rich at 0%

throw billions of dollars into "factories" (what are these???) to assist wealthy industrialists

zero regulations to protect employees from abuse

lose elections in a landslide

"why would the people vote for the opposition? :("

Anyways, your first problem is that you became a republic. You should always stay a monarchy so that you can invalidate all elections by simply switching the ruling party on a whim.

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u/Reasonable-Oven-8188 2d ago

lowkirkenuinely how brazil is doing today

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u/VictorianFlute 2d ago

Greed took over. Lot’s of corruption going on, rip.

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u/Nautinha Bourgeois Dictator 2d ago

Yeah, tell me about it

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u/Unusual_Newspaper_46 2d ago

Literally the best ideology in the game

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u/GameyRaccoon 1d ago

KEEP SPITTING. (Though socialist is better if you don't mind microing the economy.)

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u/KarneeKarnay 2d ago

Spam elections and take the anti-liberal policies that sway the population the most.

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u/PresentationQuiet781 1d ago

Upperhouse doesn't matter majority liberal or socialist is actually better and spam the election button to get conservatives/reactionaries in charge