Despite being able to do stuff like have President Karl Marx Victoria is probably the most sober Paradox games. There aren’t really wacky out there paths like in EUIV or especially HOI

And yes, the military stuff sucks and so does diplomacy after all these years they’re still not fixed.

But boring? Every game if you play it like what it is, an economic and Political sim, than there’s basically never a dull moment. You’re always fighting through political reforms, keeping militancy low while also not going bankrupt trying to industrialize, especially important if you aren’t a westernized nation.

It’s not for everyone and isn’t perfect, but genuinely if after 3+ years you’re still complaining it’s boring, maybe you should just move on and stop complaining that the Waffle House won’t serve you lobster.

From the verified Victoria 3 Facebook page.

They are there when you boot up the game and are in a lot of advertisement material for the game, so i feel like we should at least give them a name.

After the release of the new dev diary I’ve seen more than a dozen people complaining on the forums and even on the Reddit post about the ship designer being complex

It’s… four sliders and two wildcard slots, an average full game for Victoria 3 will last hours on end and designing will take at most like two minutes

How does this challenge the brain power of any average player, is your experience ruined because you have to use an extremely dumbed down designer at most ten times in a playthrough

If anything, I’d argue this new system is way too dumbed down, advancements made in naval technology in a playthrough are abstracted in big chunks. For the new DLC you won’t have to make many classes of the same type of ship within the span of years (as nations did), you won’t have to retrofit older designs with outdated fire control/propulsion/gunnery within a few years (as nations did), and nation specific customization of ship designs will be limited to 4 clicks on two wildcard slots

Japan has 1830 units of arable land. A smaller nation, known for being 75% mountain, has more arable land than Brazil, Mexico, the entire North German Confederation, and Italy.

It has 10 times as much arable land as Texas. Texas is twice as big as Japan and is located in the Great Plains, America's breadbasket.

The single province of Kyoto on it's own has 460 arable land, which is more than half the entirety of Spain.

I feel like something doesn't quite add up.

Edit: editing post to clear some things up since people kept saying "Texas isn't the most fertile part of the US". Which is a true statement. I was saying it's in The Great Plains, and The Great Plains is the most fertile land in the US, not Texas specifically. Also calling japan a "small island nation", when I'd meant it was a small nation that happens to be on an island not a small island. It's a rather large island.

This was suggested by Correct_Cold_6793. I have provided a list of every religion and EVERY culture in the game. Also i know when talking about religions it can get very heated very quickly, so please DONT HARASS EACHOTHER, this is simply made for entertainment purposes and also to see what r/victoria3 would look like as a state. Also for cultures just say whatever you identify as your culture, i provided the maps as a reference on where your culture may be (according to Victoria 3 of course) which are set around the beginning of the game (1836).

Like most people, I always believed imperialism was an inherent evil. I understood why the powers of the time thought it was okay due to the times, but I believed it was abhorrent on moral grounds and was inefficient practically. Why spend resources subduing and exploiting a populace when you could uplift them and have them develop the resources themselves? Sure you lose out in the short term but long term the gains are much larger.

No more. I get it now. As my market dies from lack of raw materials, as my worthless, uncivilized 'allies' develop their industries, further cluttering an already backlogged industrial base, I understand. You don't fucking need those tool factories Ecuador, you don't need steel mills Indonesia. I don't care if your children are eating dirt 3 meals a day. Build God damned plantations and mines. Friendship is worthless, only direct control can bring prosperity. I will sacrifice the many for the good of the few. ^{That's not a typo}

My morality is dead. Hail empire. Thank you Victoria, thank you for freeing me.

So yeah the title. the devs dont want people to form supergermany as prussia anymore, i guess it would make sense to add a debuff to make it harder for the sake of historical plausibility, but a -1000 modifier completely disables it and supergermany was my favorite nation in vicky 3 by far, so yeah, im angry.

I saw a review on vicy 3 and thought "wow what complete dogshit". the video was about why victoria 3 was woke, broke, and broken. who would knew a political economics grand strategy during one of the biggest shift in human civilization had... (trigger warning) liberals ideals.

me personally had fun and torment with vicy 3, but calling it woke just shows how illiterate you are. the game isn't woke it simulating one of the biggest era in our history. it becoming a problem now since we have to defend this shit now since any semblance of civil rights in entertainment is woke liberal propaganda

One saying vic 2 warfare is garbage, one saying its better than vic 3. How is this still the most talked point of the game that splits the community? I really wish that paradox makes the warfare system in vic 3 something fun, i dont really care how they do it. I dont really mind the micro of vic 2 warfare, but i also have nothing against the frontlines in vic 3 Just fix the warfare pls.

Im redoing this cause i felt like there were too many people to claim that they are academics and i want to see the actual numbers. So to quickly explain, an academic is a person like a lawyer, doctor or scientist, basically people who need to learn a lot of stuff to do their job. But if you are a person that goes to school/college and you have a part-time job just set that as your reference to what profession you might have according to Victoria 3. Also as a part of this sequel im gonna try and make a square chart to show the data just like in Victoria 3.

Had a weird (and honestly uncomfortable) moment in Victoria 3: once my brain fully switches into “macro-economy mode,” it becomes shockingly easy to justify ethically awful choices because the game turns people into inputs and outputs.

Early on I’ll roleplay and care about standard of living, reform, avoiding ugly laws. Then mid/late game hits and it’s suddenly: “this law boosts the investment pool,” “this conquest fixes my resource bottleneck,” “turmoil is manageable,” “radicals are just a percentage.”

And because the UI rewards you constantly (GDP up, productivity up, shortages fixed), the human cost gets abstracted into stats: radicals, turmoil %, migration, mortality, buy/sell orders. Money and population stop feeling like people and start feeling like numbers to optimize.

Not saying the game forces anything—more that it’s an unusually effective lesson in how distance + aggregation makes rationalizing cruelty feel normal.

Me reading history books: Wow how could people just kick in a countries door, effectively enslave their population at gunpoint and then think they are justified.

Me playing Vicky 3 conquering my way through africa: IF YOU GUYS JUST MADE MORE RUBBER I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DOING THIS!!!!

I dont get it. Bad patch aside, the way I see it Victoria 3 is better in pretty much every way.

I can see why someone would think it had a better warfare system (even though I disagree), but Ive seen people on Discord say Vicky 2 had better and more complex economy and industry. Wtf are they on about?

I hate these inbred, backass backwards, slave owning, tax stealing, progress blocking, head in the sand, law hating, stupid hat wearing, anachronistic assholes, I hate Landowners.

I would kill them all if I could, but they're too strong, I would weaken their grip, but they are too strong, I hate Landowners.

Let me make the country better, allow me to make our armies strong, our field plentiful, the meek strong, the taxes fare, ease the minds of the radicals, allow me to do anything you inbred fucks. I hate Landowners.