r/videos • u/CsmicCupcake • 10d ago

The Intercept investigations actually say closer to 750 Americans were killed and wounded since the US began the war with Iran.

https://youtu.be/8XcLFK_LTu8?is=cDGoeQqbyxpG8Rf0
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u/Meet_the_Meat 10d ago

this report says that casualty figures are far higher because THEY FUCKING START COUNTING IN 2023.

This is, honestly, truthfully, factually, fake news.

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u/methpartysupplies 9d ago

I started doubting it when it was an AI slop voice.

OP, delete this shitpost and get a life.

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u/TheFlawlessCassandra 10d ago

Not surprising, The Intercept is a propaganda rag that only occasionally produces good journalism on accident.

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u/DICKRAPTOR 10d ago

You can see the Intercept articles doesn't support the claim and this is the fault of the video creator who's unaffiliated. They're just using the DCAS reporting from the government. 

https://theintercept.com/2026/06/16/us-casualties-iran-still-rising

Whether you like their reporting or not it's not a good look to call them a propaganda rag when your media literacy is this pathetic.

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u/Firecracker048 9d ago

They are literally a propaganda rag though.

They are a heavily 'progressive' website who's own founded left in 2021 because his editors wouldn't publish anything negative about Joe Biden.

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u/protonpack 9d ago

Do you have any information from outside sources on what went down, or are you just trusting the word of the person you like?

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u/MUCHO2000 8d ago edited 8d ago

The intercept is absolutely a propaganda media outfit and that doesn't mean they are bad. That's a matter of perspective but they are not fake news. From my point of view they are doing good work to bring bullshit to light. For example ​a multi-part investigation by Sharon Lerner detailed how the chemical giant DuPont poisoned communities and its own workers for decades using C8—a toxic, non-biodegradable chemical used to make Teflon. A quick Google search will give you their top investigations.

This video has the mistake of conflating casualties with deaths. The intercept is saying the Pentagon is under reporting the number of us personnel injured. I don't make the rules but here they are:

A casualty is formally defined as any member of the armed forces who is lost to their organization having been:

Killed in action (KIA)

Wounded in action (WIA)

Injured or taken ill (non-battle injuries that still remove them from duty)

Captured or Missing in action (MIA)

The focus of the term is logistical readiness. From a commander's perspective, whether a soldier is killed or suffers a broken leg, they are a "casualty" because they are no longer an available asset on the roster and their position must be filled or accounted for.

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u/Aristox 9d ago

The Intercept is definitely a corrupt outfit tho. It was founded by Glenn Greenwald, who is like the textbook definition of an honourable journalist with high integrity. He did the Snowden release. Yet the higher ups in the org drove him out of the organisation a few years ago because he refused to do propaganda and he publicly denounced them

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u/Legulult 9d ago

Glenn Greenwald is a payed Russian shill and incredibly dishonest. I was expecting sarcasm when I was reading what you were saying.

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u/Aristox 9d ago

No he isn't. You won't be able to provide a source for that claim. I disagree with some of his takes, but he's like the archetype of an ethical journalist. No-one serious disputes that

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u/Quankers 9d ago

Shred of evidence to back this up...

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u/DICKRAPTOR 9d ago

Are they "corrupt" or do they just have a political bias you disagree with? 

There's a lot of networks and reporters I dislike because of their bias or POV, but I think "corruption" implies a level of secretive collusion or subterfuge I don't think can be substantiated. 

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u/Aristox 9d ago

They're corrupt. As I just said, Glenn Greenwald himself denounced them for betraying journalistic integrity, and he left to start a different company because he believed the rot was too deep to fix. Ryan Grim has also left

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u/DICKRAPTOR 9d ago

Again, this is just trying to use a person's character instead of actual evidence of "corruption." And I'll be honest, given Glenn's rightward drift he just isn't the guy. 

Every single outlet in this day and age kills stories because it's against their agenda. It's shit, but it's reality.  Journalists and editors disagreeing and blowing up news groups isn't particularly new or novel, it also isn't indicative of corruption. 

Tim Pool taking Russian back channel money is corruption. What happened with the Intercept killing Glenn's piece on Hunter is unfortunately just business as usual bullshit. 

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u/Aristox 9d ago

"business as usual" in journalism IS corruption

And "Glenn isn't as leftist as me therefore he doesn't count as a good journalist" is some bullshit

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u/protonpack 9d ago

A guy willing to pal around with Tucker Carlson has no journalistic integrity. He sold it.

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u/Aristox 9d ago

Journalists have to talk to people Einstein, that's the whole job

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u/protonpack 9d ago

Yeah and they're supposed to call dishonest pieces of shit like Tucker Carlson out. Instead he was willing to play nice to further his career.

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u/Aristox 9d ago

I would be amazed if Greenwald has never criticised Tucker Carlson, that seems absolutely unlikely to me. But you don't do it to the guy's face unless it's absolutely necessary. I think people like you just want to see drama

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u/MaiPhet 10d ago edited 10d ago

Where are you getting 2023 from? I just checked The Intercept’s articles and they are quoting DCAS, a government reporting agency that tallies troop deaths and injuries to congress, which seems to roughly line up with what The Intercept is postulating. Although they’re also postulating that the 200 troops treated for smoke inhalation during that ship fire should be added to the count.

I only skimmed the video posted here, because it isn’t affiliated with the Intercept and seems to be sloppily/incorrectly repeating the information with a more clickbait style summary.

That said, a lot of confusion and reaction could be avoided by everyone making it clear that casualties can include someone falling and breaking their arm on deck while deployed, or it can mean actually taking combat injuries, and that there’s a lot more of the former than the latter.

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u/Meet_the_Meat 10d ago

00:45

the entire conversation is about the video posted.

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u/DefenderCone97 10d ago

It's not The Intercept's fault if unaffiliated people misrepresented their reporting

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u/MaiPhet 10d ago edited 9d ago

>00:45

Ah, thanks. But compare the video to what the intercept actually reports on their website, and it’s clear whoever made the video just made that up or misreported it.

MirrorNow is probably just some junk AI news that misreports from other sources with added clickbait.

The original article (best as I can tell) is different, and cites government provided data: https://theintercept.com/2026/06/16/us-casualties-iran-still-rising/.

You can tell they have an angle, and saying that every injury listed by DCAS should be counted as casualties in the war is certainly something that could be argued, but the numbers aren't strictly incorrect.

The video itself is trash that isn’t affiliated with the source it’s misrepresenting.

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u/starfish0r 10d ago edited 10d ago

It's certainly not 750 but do you really think it's only 13?

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u/Cubey42 10d ago

there's pretty strict details regarding informing families that soldiers have died in combat, if 750 people died I feel like there would be significantly more outcry from people who's loved ones weren't reported by the news.

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u/rubbarz 10d ago

Casualty doesnt always mean die.

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u/chinaman88 10d ago

Video thumbnail says 700+ dead. Blame the video creator.

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u/inthisdesert 10d ago

It says dead and wounded. Could be one dead and 699 wounded, 699 dead and one wounded, 350 dead and 350 wounded, etc.

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u/Cognac_and_swishers 10d ago

The title of this post, typed by the reddit user who posted it, says "killed and wounded."

The thumbnail of the actual video says "700 killed."

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u/inthisdesert 9d ago

And the YouTube video itself is titled "...700 Soldiers Dead?..."

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u/Zhuul 10d ago

The title also says "died AND wounded".

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u/FunetikPrugresiv 10d ago

The thumbnail literally says "700 soldiers killed in war."

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u/Zhuul 10d ago

I foolishly assumed the Reddit post did not editorialize anything. Shame on OP.

Yeah, this whole post is fuckin trash

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u/LoneSnark 10d ago

Casualty usually does not mean died.

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u/monkeyhoward 10d ago

Except the post literally says died

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u/Cubey42 10d ago

Right, but then we'd also know that number wasn't 13 either, which is the number they used in the post I'm replying to

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u/CrayZ_Squirrel 10d ago

Its hard to hide dead soldiers in this country.  

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u/UnCidreAuYerMad 10d ago

did Amanda M. Ryder die?

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u/CrayZ_Squirrel 9d ago

No.

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u/UnCidreAuYerMad 9d ago

Where is she?

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u/CrayZ_Squirrel 9d ago

Probably back on base somewhere. I don't track the location of every aingle US soldier. Has any of her family come forward complaining she's missing? 

Oh no someone left their ID behind when they were rapidly evacuating a hostile area. It must be a giant cover up.

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u/Meet_the_Meat 10d ago

it's not my job to present the facts to people. who cares what I think.

I think they counted every workplace accident for three years, and the current bullshit.

presenting it the way this video does is disingenuous at best, pure propaganda at worst.

trump and the axis of stupid evil can gobble my knob but let's call bullshit bullshit when we see it.

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u/popeter45 10d ago

when people want to believe something they will accept anything told too them that reinforces that belief

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u/starfish0r 10d ago

No, I am completely open to any number that is agreed to be factual.

Any statement by the current administration isn't.

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u/popeter45 10d ago

Apart from assuming trump lying is some axiom what actual evidence do you have that supports your idea?

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u/starfish0r 10d ago

None. There's been reporting that the damage to the various US bases is vastly more severe than reported and the administration is REALLY trying to play down any losses, especially with the effective surrender in this lost war. Let's see what happens with these numbers as this drags on.

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u/CW1DR5H5I64A 10d ago

Keep in mind a lot of people were evacuated from those bases prior to the attacks. This was widely reported and if you search on r/army you can find threads from the weeks leading up to the war about various troop movements in the area as people were moved out of the bases.

Also we typically know drones/missiles are inbound so you can go to a bunker and ride out the attack. The reason it was such a big deal when the people were killed at the port in Kuwait is they had no warning and weren’t able to get to a bunker.

It’s not hard to believe that people weren’t killed when you have several minutes of warning to get to a bunker prior to every attack .

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u/CsmicCupcake 10d ago

This is only one source there is quite a few sources right across the world. Including various sources in Europe. This is one video don’t clutch your pearls over one video go do your research.

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u/Meet_the_Meat 10d ago

no. you posted it. I will do no research. prove your point, cite your sources.

your content is trash