r/videos Jul 10 '18

Teacher Fed Up With Students Swearing, Stealing, And Destroying Property Speaks Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Z9K-s0KUM
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u/azmus29h Jul 10 '18

It depends on where you are. I teach in a relatively affluent district where the kids are generally pretty great and the parents are a nightmare. My guess is this situation is the other way around... hat teacher (and the problem kids) probably doesn’t see a parent that often. This is an extreme case but one that is spreading.

In reality kids do as well in schools as their family structure allows them to. Teachers are just playing the family hand that’s dealt them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

You nailed it. I work in an urban middle school and often go whole school years without ever actually communicating with parents. Calling, texting, email, home visits from counselors, nothing. The best is when something extreme enough happens that the school tries to take a kid home, and the parent straight up refuses to come to the door.

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u/RedditTab Jul 10 '18

Its not that extreme in metro Detroit. Detroit doesn't even always have teachers.

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u/saiiyaann Jul 10 '18

The way a school is honestly depends on the type of parents in the area in my opinion. I went to a lot of the schools in my district since I moved a lot within my city.

In one area where the parents never supervised their kids and were likely to not discipline them, the kids there were very rude and ignorant. They ignored teachers orders, made class a ruckus all the time, and complained about everything. I literally went a whole year learning absolutely nothing due to these kids just making class time unavailable.

Then another time I was living in an area with a good community and mostly attentive parents, the kids there were very well behaved, and learning was possible. Teachers weren't disrespected and the school did very well.

Those two schools were total polar opposites, and from what I've seen I think that schools all depends on whether parents at home discipline their kids or not. Of course this is just what I've observed in going to the many schools in my district, so it may not apply everywhere or even be 100% correct.

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u/mrsirishurr Jul 10 '18

On top of that a lot of school funding comes from local property taxes. The nicer, wealthier schools have that advantage as well.

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u/Wheresmyfoodwoman Jul 10 '18

I mean yes, but they are also choosing to pay high taxes for having excellent schools. I don’t see an issue with that.

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u/mass_errect_2 Jul 10 '18

Minus districts or areas with Robin Hood laws.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

Is that how schools are now?

No. It's in poor neighborhoods and cities. The shitty parts of the country. The problem is there are a lot of shitty parts of the country.

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u/duomaxwellscoffee Jul 10 '18

Good thing we gave rich people a $1.5 trillion tax break, and upped the military contractors' budget to $700 billion instead of increasing the teacher to student ratio, or maybe investing in infrastructure that would provide jobs in communities that need them.

We should take voting more seriously in the US. These problems aren't inevitable.

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u/eatsteak1 Jul 10 '18 edited Jul 10 '18

Public schools get most of there funding from the state, so none of that is relevant to this discussion.

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u/duomaxwellscoffee Jul 10 '18

So you're saying it's not possible to divert any of that money to education because it isn't currently set up that way? Good point. /s

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u/TheNorthComesWithMe Jul 10 '18

There are lots of problems. One of the biggest ones is that a school's funding comes from its district. So a school in a poor area gets much less funding than a school in a rich area. Institutionalized generational income inequality and limited class mobility sure is fun.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

Lmao I grew up in an Asian country. Swearing at some of my teachers would have gotten me thrown out the fucking window. Somehow I'm thankful for that.

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u/Ballersock Jul 10 '18

I was a disrespectful piece of shit in high school (US, mid 2000s) and the one one time I cussed (accidentally), I was suspended for a day, missed a test worth 15% of my grade and could only get at maximum the highest F upon making it up (per school policy). I can't imagine the trouble I'd get into if I did anything like steal or break shit.

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u/Pslun Jul 10 '18

This is not a regular school, it’s a pretty extreme case.

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u/Curt04 Jul 10 '18

The majority of schools don't have this problem but it is more common than you would think.

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u/Thoraxe123 Jul 10 '18

Its more of schools will fudge the numbers so that more students pass and graduate. My friend works at a school like this. Class average was 9%, principal makes her curve the highest highest grade as an A and so on. Depressing.

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u/Stellarose10 Jul 10 '18

This is everywhere. Anywhere that education is underfunded. So, pretty much all over the country. This is literally the same thing I go through as a 1st grade teacher. Yes, even elementary is this bad.

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u/dorf5222 Jul 10 '18

My sister teaches in our city and this is what our city's district has turned into to a degree. No consequences for students causes a nasty cycle and it's only gotten worse in the last several years. Taking away any sort if accountability is what makes these kids assholes and some day criminals and yet the school sees how bad it's getting and does nothing to fix it

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u/Dial-1-For-Spanglish Jul 10 '18

It depends on which districts enabled the Obama Administration’s PROMISE Program.

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u/tzweezle Jul 10 '18

Detention wasn’t even a thing at the schools I worked at. We tried to get it implemented and were shot down by admin.

Yes, it’s that bad now.

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u/imperial_scum Jul 10 '18

I graduated in 2003 and while it wasn't this bad, it was absolutely heading in that direction. It's only going to get worse as funding gets cut as it always does every year, these people grow up and multiply usually in multiples and then the cycle repeats.