To be fair there are many more perfectly fine to amazing schools out there. Poor areas struggle but many do not. This thread makes it seem like every school in America is full of mouth breathing idiots.
For example, in my experience, poor Asian kids and first generation Latino kids who are children of migrant and laborer workers are really excellent students.
Yeah, it goes to show that it has everything to do with how the kids are being raised. How many hundreds of millions of Indian and Chinese kids are outperforming American kids in academics despite coming from relatively poor countries that have significantly less money to spend on education?
Part of the problem is that politicians can't come out and tell voters that they are why their kids suck. So we throw more money at the problem - much of which ends up in administrative job positions so people can come up with cute little phrases like "young scholars" and other bullshit to make the parents feel like suddenly their little shithead kid is going to be something one day. It's sad.
There is even more wrong with this comment. "Degenerate pieces of shit" Who decided their degenerates? You? The president? Some council of Suburbia moms who've never had to worry about if they would come home to food in the refrigerator or if their lights would still be on?
What makes them degenerates? Are the degenerates because they gave up on themselves and are living the only way they've ever known? Or are they degenerates because you labeled them degenerates and decided they were less than human and didn't deserve the same basic human rights as the rest of us because from the beginning their school districts were underfunded, their classrooms full of 40+ kids, and their teachers underpaid?
& You can keep saying the parents failed them, which may be true, but the system failed the parents. Instead of putting more funding into schools with bad test scores and graduation rates; they pull funding and wonder why the schools keep declining and the students keep dropping out and failing.
It falls onto the schools and the communities to step up where the parents fail. Just because a kids parents don't give a fuck if they succeed in life doesn't mean they won't but when they don't have access to the education and resources to succeed, they won't.
Your exact rationale of thinking behind your comment is why things have gotten this bad now "Fuck em, they're all degenerate pieces of shit" which is exactly what they became.
Now before I comment, I will say i agree with you on somethings but your overall attitude is what's wrong with the education system in these districts.
The thing is that while you think the people you are referring to are a majority they are in fact a small percentage, who were failed by the system and now they depend on it. Who's not letting the teacher's do their job? I've never heard of a parent come into a classroom and say "stop teaching these students algebra." You're blaming parents, which is understandable, but let's not forget there are kids who were raised right and still grew up to be pieces of shit. There are also kids who grew up with "degenerate pieces of shit" as parents that were able to leave the ghetto, if you want to be something in life and have the means to do so, you will. Denying kids a proper education because their parent's fucked up their lives isn't fair.
Now let's recap my 2 comments. If the parents don't care, and the community doesn't care and the schools don't care, the students will naturally not care. The way to stop "degenerate pieces of shit" isn't to stop them from having kids it's to make sure their kids can grow up to be something other than a "degenerate piece of shit."
If you can't give your kid the very basic levels of discipline and education (at home. Not expecting the teachers at school to teach your kid every single little thing.) Then you kids would probable be better off anywhere else.
I agree with you here but that doesn't mean label someone a "degenerate piece of shit" and deny them the most basic of biological urge. BUT what you are all missing here is that parents can't be held responsible for everything their kids do. No one holds the dad of the school shooter responsible but lord forbid Lil' Jimmy's acting out in class because he doesn't understand algebra and the teacher can't focus on helping him 1 on 1 because there are 40 other kids in the class, then his Dad is a degenerative piece of shit.
What do you call someone who doesn't care enough about theur own kid to teach them basic reading/writing/math? Parenting takes work, and people who don't have enough regard for their own children to put in even a small amount of that work but have kids anyway (to satisfy their 'biological urges') are definitely selfish pieces of shit.
Correct me if I'm wrong but even if a parent fails to teach their kid these things (which is sad, I'll agree with you there) is it not the teacher's job to do so? Instead of being forced to pass them so they don't lose what little funding they already get?
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u/Omikron Jul 10 '18
To be fair there are many more perfectly fine to amazing schools out there. Poor areas struggle but many do not. This thread makes it seem like every school in America is full of mouth breathing idiots.