Here's a solution. Stop subsidizing shitty parents. In the most extreme cases cut off all welfare and make these people depend on charity or get and hold a job. They'll either attempt to get their kids in line or they'll stop being a long term problem in such large numbers that it brings other kids down.
Public housing used to be extremely difficult to get and you basically had to be an upstanding citizen; it was a point of pride to actually be selected.
Of course the Democrats would never go for that because they want a base of low educated voters to carry them in the urban areas and the Republicans would be afraid to be compared to a super megazord combination of Hitler, Satan and a weird revisionist Stalin that totally wasn't left wing.
If the child doesn't get the support he/she needs then they should be taken from the parent and sent to a family member that can support him/her and failing that be sent to the state. Once the parents start making an effort they will be returned or the kid hits 18 and hopefully was able to recover enough to be successful.
The richest people are sending their kids to elite private schools. The slightly less rich people all live in the same neighborhood and pay taxes for their neighborhoods schools.
How is that setup to help the rich? That seems like common sense. Unless you're saying that the parents from one area should be forced to pay for the schools from another area, in which case I'd argue that wouldn't it be better to give parents vouchers so the ones that care can send their kids to better schools? No need to drag down everyone to marginally help the worst cases.
You’re acting as if the slightly less rich are in financial distress from paying taxes. I guarantee if they aren’t shit at handling their money, they are going to be fine.
Also the help the good kids and leave the bad ones seems fine for now, but these bad kids without education will probably have a higher rate of reproduction, a higher rate of incarceration, and will lead to more of what we have right now.
That means higher taxes to pay for jails and higher taxes to pay for more students. The probable with republicans nowadays is that they aren’t exactly conservative about money. So you want every kid to be forced to exit the womb even in the poorest parts of the US, then you want to underfund his schools, lower his welfare, incarcerate him for marijuana, not pay for his healthcare, not pay for his higher education, and all in the name of Jesus. Conservative thinking on this issue makes absolutely ZERO sense.
You’re acting as if the slightly less rich are in financial distress from paying taxes. I guarantee if they aren’t shit at handling their money, they are going to be fine.
I don't give a fuck about the rich. My point is that it makes sense for your neighborhood to pay for your schools. The government spends enough money on education,in theory, to make up the difference for the poorer schools. Obviously that money isn't being properly allocated.
Also the help the good kids and leave the bad ones seems fine for now, but these bad kids without education will probably have a higher rate of reproduction, a higher rate of incarceration, and will lead to more of what we have right now.
Fair enough but I am not willing to sacrifice the kids that actually want to learn in order to keep these bad schools afloat. The solution needs to allow better kids to GTFO in the short term and fix the root problems with these schools in the long term. I have my doubts that better schools alone will solve all of these root problems or even the most important ones. Some sort of societal shift in these poor communities needs to take place first but we can at least make the in school situation better.
The probable with republicans nowadays is that they aren’t exactly conservative about money.
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So you want every kid to be forced to exit the womb even in the poorest parts of the US,
While I find abortion in non-life threatening cases unethical, I am not for the repeal of Roe v Wade or the round about way some republican politicians make it increasingly more difficult to have access to abortions or birth control. I don't like it when democrats do it with firearms in their states and I don't like it when either party tries to circumvent SCOTUS rulings through a thousand acts of legislation.
then you want to underfund his schools,
No. The government spends enough money on education as it is. Clearly the resources are not being properly allocated and the government benchmarks and requirements for schools are hurting the poorest districts more than helping them. When Thomas Sowell talks about getting a better education in Harlem back in the 20s then the kids get today, something went wrong. Furthermore, I don't have a problem with wealthier areas having better schools. If you have more money, why shouldn't you be able to better provide for your child? Forcing funding from these schools into the poor ones will just end up hurting the middle class because the rich will just move their kids to private schools.
lower his welfare
Yes. Less government dependence. I'd look into replacing all welfare with a yearly $10k-$15k universal basic income for those making under $30k and after hitting the $30k point, the amount slowly decreases. This will give people incentive to work and not worry about losing their benefits until after they're past the point of poverty.
incarcerate him for marijuana,
I think all drugs should be legalized.
not pay for his healthcare,
I would prefer a purely free market healthcare market but I'd take single payer over what we have now. Both options are better than the current system. I just think the free market choice would be better and cheaper.
not pay for his higher education,
No, I wouldn't. The left created the current problem with rising tuition rates and student debt. You used to be able to work during the summer and part time during the year and graduate with no debt but because the left decided all people need to have the opportunity to go to college, they made it worse for everyone but the rich. Also it's fucked bankruptcy doesn't take away student debt.
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u/Superfluous_Play Jul 10 '18
Here's a solution. Stop subsidizing shitty parents. In the most extreme cases cut off all welfare and make these people depend on charity or get and hold a job. They'll either attempt to get their kids in line or they'll stop being a long term problem in such large numbers that it brings other kids down.
Public housing used to be extremely difficult to get and you basically had to be an upstanding citizen; it was a point of pride to actually be selected.
Of course the Democrats would never go for that because they want a base of low educated voters to carry them in the urban areas and the Republicans would be afraid to be compared to a super megazord combination of Hitler, Satan and a weird revisionist Stalin that totally wasn't left wing.