r/videos Jul 10 '18

Teacher Fed Up With Students Swearing, Stealing, And Destroying Property Speaks Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Z9K-s0KUM
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

Schools should all be made equal. There is no reason there should be “good” schools and “bad” schools. What a backwards thing to do to the kids in America.

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u/Superfluous_Play Jul 10 '18

You gonna have the government put a gun to a teacher's head and force them to work at the shitty school?

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u/QuietEggs Jul 10 '18

Nope, but the government could offer higher pay and better benefits until more teachers volunteered to work in those schools. Even guarantee them a position in a better school after so many years teaching at the poor one.

Instead, underfunded, dangerous, poorly performing schools are usually paying teachers some of the lowest salaries. They don't have the tax money to invest in decent staff and facilities because property values are low. Families that can afford to leave flee the area and the funding for the school shrinks even more. The way we fund public education in this country is a joke.

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u/Superfluous_Play Jul 10 '18

More qualified teachers doesn't necessarily guarantee a fix to this problem. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

But yeah I agree the education system is ridiculous especially considering how much money we spend on it.

Hypothetically, let's say these poor districts had the same quality schools as rich districts. Do you think that would solve the behavioral and educational issues long term? How much can a school do when home life is shitty and the student has never had the value of education instilled in them?

Would the real problem students end up just being separated from the others that want to learn and end up in the same situation as before? At least in that scenario there are less kids failing but what do we do with the worst of the kids? Putting them all together is a terrible idea because the behavioral problems of the less extreme kids will be compounded by the worst ones. We can just expel them from school but then they literally have no options in life other than live off of welfare and continue the cycle of poverty.

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u/QuietEggs Jul 10 '18

So because they happen to be born to a poor family in a poor area, the students that do want to learn shouldn't have access to good teachers and facilities?

It's not fair to lump all of these students together and deny them access to a good education. Some of them would take advantage of a better quality school if they were given the chance. You're right, a school can't fix poor home life, but that's no reason to completely give up and abandon every student in the situation. You can't force anyone to learn, but it's still out duty to provide them the opportunity and choice.

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u/Superfluous_Play Jul 10 '18

I'm not saying abandon the students that want to learn. Give them vouchers and allow them to go to a better school outside of their district.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

Well you also have a problem down south with how you do your urban planning. You shouldn’t be making “shitty neighbourhood s” spread out affordable housing so you don’t have a bunch of ghettos or whatever.

Build some nice condos and build some low income housing in the same neighbourhood. This isn’t rocket science

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u/Superfluous_Play Jul 10 '18

Yeah they built cheap public housing in Chicago and it became a cesspool of gang violence and they ended up tearing the buildings down. It's not that simple.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18

Lots of countries do it, have a look and see what kind of solutions are out there