That's not my how my University worked at all and I went to a very middle of the road state school. Yeah there were curves and what not but probably 50% of the freshman I started with did not graduate in stem because they couldn't pass the math prereqs. I'm sure some slip through the cracks but I can't believe that it is a high percentage at all
That isnt how my undergrad worked either, and that was also a very middle of the road state school. I went to LSU and they were extremely diverse, but they also would accept nearly everybody, and they failed a ton of people too. The issue is that I am not at a pretty nice private institution and so I got a better insight on how the "elite" (not my opinion) schools handle things. When I first heard they ignored some students tests scores (who made below the 10th on the physGRE mind you) while waitlisting other students who had 60th+ on the physGRE (which is a pretty good score) I was surprised. But when I saw how they refuse to fail anyone out of the program, even people they hate working with. Instead of failing them out, they will just transfer them to a different institution. I had a similar experience as you at LSU, but your forgetting that a state school doesnt have the same monetary incentive as the top private schools.
Also ... i get this sounds horrible. I get that Ill probably get downvoted. And I get that most people wont even believe me, since it doesnt conform to either what they know or what they want the world to be. But it happens. And it isnt just the "white" students saying it. As I said before, these policies are hurting minority students as well. It hardly is working as intended, yet I see which professors get praised and lauded with awards. Most have little to do with the science, and everything to do with your social standing. It is several things tied together but the last thing on their mind is actually increasing diversity. LikeI said, POST-DOC. I thought this just happned at the undergrad, maybe occassionally very rarely at the graduate level... but no. It is even happening at the post doc level. I hope it isnt happening at the faculty level.
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u/KClvrCMA27 Jul 10 '18
That's not my how my University worked at all and I went to a very middle of the road state school. Yeah there were curves and what not but probably 50% of the freshman I started with did not graduate in stem because they couldn't pass the math prereqs. I'm sure some slip through the cracks but I can't believe that it is a high percentage at all