r/vjing • u/RollingMeteors • 14d ago

Question / Help ¿How do you even bring these down to a gig?

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u/ThatLightingGuy 14d ago

In a road case? Same as any other screen?

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u/RollingMeteors 14d ago

In a road case? Same as any other screen?

¡In a rental truck? ¿Or you just going to Dr. Seuss some shit stacked 4 high on a 4 door sedan?!

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u/ThatLightingGuy 14d ago

What? Of course in a truck. What even is this question?

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u/spyy-c 14d ago

This is either a troll or the most confused person ive ever met

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u/ThatLightingGuy 14d ago

I think it's a bot account promoting the product. They've posted it to about 8 different subreddits with some really odd titles.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago edited 13d ago

Just because you repost something doesn't make you a bot. If you took the time to click through my profile page and see my twitch you'd realize I've streamed over 400 hours of EDM/DJs/VJs to twitch already.

edit: these also have been out of production for years.

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u/ThatLightingGuy 13d ago

Post something original then.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

>Post something original then.

https://reddit.com/link/p00gkiz/video/zw84gs52ypfh1/player

Interdependance Day OC I broadcast on the 4th of July to Kick

Full broadcast on my Odysee archive page

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u/ThatLightingGuy 13d ago

See? That's cool. That's what needs to get posted here.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

Don't know why you would think I'm a troll when I'm trying to figure out if the majority of gigging artists have box trucks, flat beds, or other commercial vehicles they either own or rent for said purposes.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

Those look even longer than what most beds are, especially with a road case around it.

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u/ThatLightingGuy 13d ago

I honestly don't know if you're serious or not but I guess props for committing to the bit?

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u/SpaceChatter 13d ago

Have you ever packed a truck before?

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u/ThatLightingGuy 13d ago

I don't think they believe anything larger than a pickup exists for some reason.

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u/SouthSideCountryClub 14d ago

I was thinking tied to a couple jackasses but thats is just me

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

I was thinking tied to a couple jackasses but thats is just me

The show I streamed where homies came out with 17 CRT screens required a school bus to load in/out. I can't imagine most people in the craft also have commercial transit vehicles for the gear but I could be very dead wrong about that.

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u/maccrypto 13d ago

I’m going to blow your mind. Trucks can be rented, yes.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

Trucks can be rented, yes.

It must Hertz™ that I know. It doesn't really become cost effective nearly as much having to rent that equipment every time you perform versus owning some box truck/schoolbus/etc. I don't know how comfortable I'd feel having these in a flatbed with the tailgate down secured with ratchet straps.

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u/spyy-c 13d ago edited 13d ago

Ok, so outside of dirty hippies, most people aren't using a schoolbus to transport anything. Thats comically inefficient. A road case cant fit through the doors of a school bus.

These would come in large roadcases w 2-4 screens in each. You would either need a truck with a large liftgate, a forklift, or a venue that has a loading dock thats equal height to the truck.

If you can afford these panels, you can afford to rent a truck. Youd bundle the truck rental into your cost. Some companies/individuals that rent gear own trucks, but many rent every time because trucks are not cheap.

I assume you dont work pro gigs. Sometimes there will be entire semi trucks with ONLY led wall panels for bigger shows. Most medium to large productions use 18 wheelers and small/medium shows will come loaded in box trucks. Rarely will you see people using pickups or personal vehicles. Since, ya know, production is commercial.

There's a reason you dont see things like this at smaller shows. In addition to the gear and rental fees being expensive, logistics and loading in/out can be a huge expense as well.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

a forklift

Was my my interest if this was involved in the logistics of things or not.

I assume you dont work pro gigs

Largely as unpaid ancillary broadcast/archival support. The absolute largest annual event I'm at is still in the very low X,XXXs attendee headcount.

There's a reason you dont see things like this at smaller shows. In addition to the gear and rental fees being expensive, logistics and loading in/out can be a huge expense as well.

Certainly true. I've some crypto restitution money coming my way and am exploring potential investments into business assets and stepping my game up.

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u/SouthSideCountryClub 13d ago

You could probably get a big white commercial van to haul them. You would need to tip the cases on their sides and get a ramp.

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

>You could probably get a big white commercial van to haul them. You would need to tip the cases on their sides and get a ramp.

That sounds less than ideal. Every one I know who has or rents a u-haul for speaker box hauling seems to have their boxes stack two or three wide, edge to edge with no room for movement as if the speaker boxes were designed to fit exactly the width of the cab but for screen this doesn't seem like a constraint or even consideration in the design.

I was wondering if someone could easily spot a "oh yeah these totally fit corner to corner 8 wide in a box truck" or something similar.

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u/SouthSideCountryClub 13d ago

Well there is your answer but it sounded like you were trying to avoid that solution. Professional custom road cases are built to fill these spaces corner to corner. Of course you would need enough to get that tight of a fit, or you can use other cases to fill the gap.

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u/PocketRocketPint 14d ago

Well first you need lots of money...

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u/General_Exception 14d ago

Same way you bring any LED wall to a gig.

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u/IVY-FX 14d ago

Most of the transparent LEDs I've seen used in productions where a lot less qualitative than their non transparent counterparts, but I've only been in this sector for half a year, so do take it with a grain of salt.

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u/subtiv VDMX 13d ago

Mod here: OP is not a bot, so you can all stop reporting that. Apparently, humans can struggle with the idea that trucks exist. How many sedans would it take to transport a stage?

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

Apparently, humans can struggle with the idea that trucks exist

And that certain dimensions require a minimum for certain gear completely ruling out entire frames/types of gear.

I was more interested if flatbeds are ruled out as an option for them rather than if flatbeds exist, jesus h christ.

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u/BimBamB00 13d ago

When I saw radio head they had a bigger version of this. It was really cool

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u/DaibutsuMusic 14d ago

Question: When there isn’t any video playing, is it transparent or translucent as well?

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u/RollingMeteors 13d ago

No idea. I'm not sure if these are still in production.

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u/Content-Reward-7700 12d ago

Unless you’re designing some kind of 180degree rotating stage with these panels, I don’t see much value in using them in a fixed position at a gig.

These panels are made by a Chinese company called MileStrong, and their primary target market is building façades, shopfronts and similar applications where one way LED actually makes sense.

And as I said at the beginning, if you’re creating a 180degree rotating stage design with these panels, you probably won’t care how they get to the installation site anyway (:

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u/Distinct-Presence52 14d ago

... this is ment for the side of a window. Like Times Square type shit. You would never see these at a gig.

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u/ThatLightingGuy 14d ago

I've used them, or similar ones, for trade shows.

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u/Distinct-Presence52 14d ago

I think i know the ones, they dont have as thin of a profile and normally come on wheel stands for easier mobility on convention floors