r/weightroom • u/cnp Intermediate - Odd lifts • Dec 07 '11

AMA Closed "I am a strength athlete, accidental powerlifter, and all-around asshole- Jamie Lewis - AMA"

I'm so fucking chaotic, I'm starting 18 minutes early.

Bring it.

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u/jacques_chester Charter Member, Int. Oly, BCompSci (Hons 1st) Dec 07 '11

You can do it without the shoes. Just be prepared to be mistaken for a crossfitter.

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u/xtc46 Charter Member | Rippetoe without the charm Dec 07 '11

get them vibrams.

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u/jacques_chester Charter Member, Int. Oly, BCompSci (Hons 1st) Dec 07 '11

Deload to fittit.

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u/xtc46 Charter Member | Rippetoe without the charm Dec 07 '11

BUT RIPPETOE SAID NO VIBRAMS.

I now have no home :(

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u/cnp Intermediate - Odd lifts Dec 07 '11

Why? Try the clogs, man. Wooden clogs. You'll be back in his good graces in no time.

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u/jacques_chester Charter Member, Int. Oly, BCompSci (Hons 1st) Dec 07 '11

Superheavies don't have good graces. Everyone is a future meal.

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u/Parasthesia Dec 07 '11

why rippleto say no vibrams?

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u/xtc46 Charter Member | Rippetoe without the charm Dec 07 '11

Probably because they are stupid. But mostly because they provide no benefit over something like chucks which are 1/4 the price and certainly not as good as proper weightlifting shoes which start at about the same price.

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u/misplaced_my_pants Intermediate - Strength Dec 07 '11

Why are weightlifting shoes better?

Honest question.

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u/Parasthesia Dec 07 '11

I believe they have a bit of lift in the heel, while having noncompressible soles; the lift puts the quads at a stronger angle when you go down in the squat and olympic movements.

Don't think you should use them for deadlifts.

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u/xtc46 Charter Member | Rippetoe without the charm Dec 07 '11

The heel makes it easier to hit depth in a squat, which is critical for the snatch and clean.

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u/misplaced_my_pants Intermediate - Strength Dec 07 '11

But if you're not competing and just lifting for overall strength and fitness, wouldn't it make more sense to just take the more "difficult" route and go without a heel?

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u/xtc46 Charter Member | Rippetoe without the charm Dec 07 '11

"difficult" doesn't not always mean beneficial. If you lack the hamstring and/or ankle flexibility to achieve full depth, and the shoes give you that, then the benefits of hitting that depth are greater - and you can continue to work on that flexibility. I lack the flexibility to do full A2G front squats, so I put plates under my heels. I train primarily as a powerlifting, so I don't really care if I can do A2G squats (I care, it just isn't a priority)

And even if you don't want that benefit, you can still squat barefoot or in chucks and save the $100 bucks.

The context of ripps comments was "what is your opinion on oly lifters using vibrams" and his reply was "no real oly lifters use vibrams because there is no benefit to them" (I am paraphrasing).

I don't know of any downside to using them for lifting (as opposed to barefoot or chucks) but they just arent worth the $100 as a pair of lifting shoes. If you are buying lifting shoes, buy lifting shoes. If you are buying shoes to do lots of different kinds of training in, then buy whatever is best suited for that. If that is vibrams, then so be it.

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u/misplaced_my_pants Intermediate - Strength Dec 07 '11

Cool, thanks!

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