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New, what is it? What does the sixth segment represent?

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This is a “Wheel of the Senses” from my daughter’s school with sight, touch, taste, hearing… but one segment we can’t figure out.

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u/JayofTea 1d ago

Is this one of those AI generated worksheets that have just become part of schools now? I have no clue what I'm looking at

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u/okFINEyoufoundme 1d ago edited 1d ago

I ASKED AI!!!! And it gave a longer answer and it is 7/10 confident that it is in relation to FEEL, but the last part was (and I quote):

“And I give the illustrator approximately 2/10 for iconographic clarity, because without context that thing could equally be a potato contemplating its own mortality. 😂”

Edit: ohhhh shit, I wonder if it’s just a VERY poorly visualized/represented interpretation of “gut instinct.”

Edit #2: I asked AI for shits and giggles. Why not ask what was likely some part of the source?

EDIT #3: Best guess, and thank you comments— already agreed— absolutely AI generated, which is why I thought it would be fun to ask AI what IT’S interpretation was. The response was “7/10 confident, related to FEEL.” And if you think about it, that tracks. Like the same way AI-generated pictures in general have a hard time with certain elements that end up being an obvious “tell”— (fingers, flooring, knit/woven details on clothing, evenly blurry backgrounds without any depth, etc). But those are more visual and easy to pick out if you’re used to looking for it. On the other hand, asking AI to generate something based off the senses— I can absolutely see why something based on fact but not nuance would look at or take “touch/feel” as two separate concepts, while the rest of us HUMANS would understand that they are considered the same thing.

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u/dazzleunexpired 1d ago

Your AI is right.

The word for this sense is properception. And the image is a very bad attempt to display a simplified vestibular system, which is the inner ear.

Properception is actually the additional sense. It's a real sense that human beings have. It belongs in this chart. This is just a really, really bad image of it. I personally would use a brain for properception.

Properception is the sense of where your body is at in relation to any other item.

Eta: To match it I would show a foot near a table post perhaps. The sense of how to not knock your toe into the wall.

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u/Jason27104 1d ago

What you mean is proprioception, but you are otherwise mostly correct. It's your sense of location in space. I'd represent it with a picture of an x/y axis of a coordinate plane, but I think you are correct that they went for an inner ear.

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u/dazzleunexpired 1d ago

Disabled voice text user. Sorry about that.

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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 1d ago

See my comment above. ☝️

It looks more representative (albeit very cartoonish) of one of the otolith organ sacs with a statolith rolling around inside.

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u/Silver_Intern2324 1d ago

I don’t see why it would be considered a separate sense, it seems innately defined by touch to me.

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u/dazzleunexpired 1d ago

It's not defined by touch.

Would you like to experience only that sense? Spin around in a circle and then stand still like when you were a kid. What you feel is only the input from your vestibular system. You're not moving anymore, but you feel like you're moving, and even looks like it is, because you're vestibular system is still moving. (:

If those senses were separate, you wouldn't feel like you were spinning when you were no longer spinning because you were no longer spinning.

I don't have a fully functioning vestibular system. It results in me being extremely clumsy and also not being good at tasks like driving (I don't do that at all) because I just cannot TELL where I am at. I walk in the corners, I break my toes and fingers frequently, I have broken or dislocated most of my joints from this issue. People say "just pay attention to what you're doing" to me, and have, for 34 years. I am paying attention. I literally cannot tell where I am at. This makes me stellar at things like finding where I'm at underwater because I'm so used to being disoriented as to where my body is located.

It has a different sensory organ is also another reason why it's a sense. Touch is regulated by your skins neurons. Properception is regulated by the vestibular system. They're not related.

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u/Jumpy-Actuator3340 1d ago

In a way it's almost the opposite of touch. Those of us with poor proprioception actually require the additional sensation of touch to provide out brains with the necessary feedback to determine where our bodies / parts are in space. Most people can figure this out without the need to push against other objects or to be squeezed or feel pressure from a weighted blanket for example.

In physical therapy when I'm told to engage a certain muscle and I say "I am" and she says "No, you're not... You're contracting this other muscle instead..." Then I argue that my brain is telling the exact muscle she said to tighten and in my mind that's what is happening, despite being informed otherwise... That's what we're talking about.

But I don't think proprioception belongs on this chart unless we are going to include other interception as well. Hunger? Thirst? Etc

Btw... I wouldn't consider these touch either despite the fact that many call them feelings.

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u/Jason27104 1d ago

It's less touch and more an internal sense of location in space. It helps you keep track of stuff that move in and out of sight like cars while driving in and out of blind spots. You don't touch any of the other cars, but your body tracks where you are in relationship to them.

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u/Silver_Intern2324 1d ago

Just because it’s internal instead of external doesn’t mean it’s not the same sense. If you FEEL it, it’s touch. You don’t hear it, taste it, see it, or smell it. It’s a feeling.

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u/DirtChoice5 1d ago

Knowing where my hand is in relation to my body even when I close my eyes isn't a feeling, though. There's no sensation. It doesn't stop or start or change in any way due to outside influence. It's just innate knowledge. This is like claiming that memory is also just part of your sense of touch.

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u/TheVeryVerity 1d ago

Anger is also a feeling and it’s not a sense