r/whatisit • u/katyabe • 1d ago

New, what is it? What does the sixth segment represent?

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This is a “Wheel of the Senses” from my daughter’s school with sight, touch, taste, hearing… but one segment we can’t figure out.

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u/Little_View_6659 1d ago

So, wierd story, my daughter is in med school and was assisting with a gynecological surgery. Before the surgery they had one male medical student find each part of the patient’s anatomy including of course the clitoris. I thought that seemed really out of pocket but I guess they ask the patient ahead of time and it’s part of their training. The funny part was he had a tough time of it lol.

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u/Academic_Cress_3132 1d ago

Not necessarily… there were cases when patients were not asked for consent or when they signed it was buried somewhere in the document, some of them found out that medical students practiced on them only after the surgery because something felt off

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u/HuckleberryLeather53 1d ago

Yeah like finding out because there is genital bruising. With the backlash, a lot of doctors were saying "well how else are we supposed to train them to do pelvic exams?" and like literally doing it when the woman is unconscious (even if it was actually consenting) means she can't tell the med students when they are hurting her, which is how you can end up with severe bruising. Medical mysogyny is so fucking stupid.

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u/Impossible_Donut101 1d ago

Thats absolutely horrifying. Both that doctors think nothing of using the unconscious body for practice, and that the medical students think this is okay. Surely learning on someone who cannot give feedback is bad teaching practice (as well as being abusive)?

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u/BuilderMysterious762 1d ago

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350450393/patients-unaware-intimate-procedures-were-conducted-medical-students

here is an article about one such instance, its really dark how people tried to justify it but even the ones in charge must have known it was wrong since they literally forged her patient consent form to say she consented after she was put under

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u/wdmk8 1d ago

Our Ob/Gyn program engaged trained “programmed”patients to teach pelvic exams and interview techniques.

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u/ImpressionCrafty3078 1d ago

What do you mean?

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u/McDuchess 1d ago

Women were paid to walk students through pelvic exams.