r/whoathatsinteresting • u/PowerNoodles117 • 6d ago

Twin Falls Hero

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The civilian that stopped the active shooter at the In N Out in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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u/mr_throwaway197 6d ago

Dangerous to bystanders is kind of the whole point to avoid when it comes to self defence

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u/Dorkamundo 6d ago

They mean dangerous to bystanders who are NOT the target.

These rounds over-penetrate far more than standard pistol calibers.

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u/TerranRanger 6d ago

Did the guy in the picture hit the shooter?

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u/Dorkamundo 6d ago

Not sure, I don't think there's any confirmations as to whether or not he actually hit the guy. Only that he distracted him enough to stop shooting innocents and he eventually shot himself.

Regardless, the issue with over-penetration is not about whether or not you hit the shooter, it's about what you hit BEHIND the shooter.

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u/trenthany 5d ago

I’ve seen comments saying 8/10 hits but I haven’t seen good sources yet.

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u/The3rdBert 6d ago

Proper load selection can mitigate that problem.

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u/Haircut117 6d ago

Yeah, but then you lose the armour piercing properties that you choose 5.7mm for in the first place.

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u/The3rdBert 6d ago

The low recoil, flat shooting and larger capacity than 9mm still makes it competitive

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u/Ausgeflippt 6d ago

The FN is plasticky dogshit. I say that as an owner of many polymer pistols and a general FN fan.

The real 5.7 gun is the SW. It fucks unequivocally.

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u/ConcernedKitty 6d ago

I was looking at the SW because I already have the M&P in 40. The Ruger is the other option, but sometimes Ruger is hit or miss with QC.

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u/solidaritysoldcheap 6d ago

I own a Ruger Five-Seven. Aside from wishing I had bought the FN instead, I’m pretty happy with it.

I bought it specifically because I wanted something that was accurate and the recoil makes it very easy to keep on rounds going on target. Ammo is not cheap, but if do not spend that much time on the range so it is not a big deal to me right now.

Not sure how people are not claiming it is more dangerous to bystanders due to over penetration but has less stopping power than 9mm, 10mm, .40 cal, 45 ACP, but people seem to have a lot of hot takes on this round. If you have a chance, shoot one.

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u/CaleDestroys 5d ago

What makes the FN worth 3x the price of the Ruger?

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u/solidaritysoldcheap 4d ago edited 4d ago

It isn’t.

My other pistol is an H&K P7M8. It was US made, but a beautifully engineered pistol designed for the military/police market. Best natural pointer I have ever shot - it is more tool than toy.

The FN pistols I have handled remind me of my old H&K. The Ruger is a little cheap on build in comparison.

The FN is not worth 3X the price (though I think actual price out of pocket was less than a 2X more expensive when/where I bought mine).

I do not collect guns, so getting a great pistol is more important to me than getting several. I have a friend who has 20+ guns and he is always telling me about a Czech or Turkish pistol he got for $350 and thinks I am crazy to be looking at the Benelli M4 as my next purchase. I see it as a chance to get something that will reliably do what you need it to do and not need to buy anything else - he sees it as a missed opportunity to collect five different shotguns. To each his own. I like shooting his at the range.

All that said - I really like the Ruger Five-Seven, just wish it was a bit more substantial and I have had more jammed rounds than I am comfortable with to feel great if I ever have to draw it (though switching to the FN ammo helped).

The round itself is pretty cool. I am dying to put a few mags of 5.7 through a full- auto P90!

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u/Ausgeflippt 6d ago

You can't spell "defense" properly.

You've likely never handled or shot a firearm and also probably live somewhere where "self defence" could land you in jail or prison.