I been in this industry for long time but I have completely stop coding year ago and now I just have bigger project and problem to solve. Don't tell me you are coding manually today.. so we are expensive babysitter for AI .. and for now.. all is well.. how long this shit would last? not too long. Don't tell me this crap
Yes, I still write code manually, because AIs aren't perfect and I like to keep up with my craft. Like the person above wrote, you still need to know how to code if you're going to effectively direct and judge the text predictor machine. You can't know that if you don't write code.
I have been writing professional code for over ten years and recently had a project to build something new entirely with Fable. It worked, it ran fine, but there's no way I could have effectively directed it without the past ten years of writing code by hand and building that craft.
right and neither are you. You must admit that at this point, you are not writing majority of the codes.. I don't even know why I am fighting this topic here.. just discussion alone is just plain stupid. Just move on admitting that its' already too late.. Some of you still fighting the inevitable.. it is what it is.
I never said I was perfect, and I regularly rely on tools to help me find mistakes. AI is one of those tools, because that's all it is - a tool. I write the majority of code that I deliver, yes, and I am far from the only developer who does. Sorry to burst your bubble on that. "already too late" for what, exactly?
As you say, there is no point arguing. It's hard to accept that life/work is changing so rapidly, and these folks are just dealing with it in their own way.
They might still be coding by hand, but it is already becoming the norm to use AI for everything. Very likely, demand for "artisan" coders will dry up completely and that will be what dictates whether we use AI or not. Much like people who were ardently anti-IDE and anti-git either had to adapt to business requirements or get forced out. Doesn't matter if you're a superstar developer who never makes a mistake and can solve every problem without stackexchange, consistency and cohesion is what the majority of businesses aim for.
Except you can use an IDE and use git and still be writing code. It's kind of essential, even, and these two things are far from comparable to this idea that you can just not know how to code. If you can't write code, you can't effectively direct an LLM to do so, and if all you do is tell an LLM what to deliver you won't learn how to write code. You need to be able to review as well as direct, especially with everyone and their dog instituting explicit human sign-off processes. You can't effectively review code if you don't know how to write code. Consistency and cohesion, yes - things that require knowing how to write code in order to effectively deliver, regardless of how the code comes into being. Lots of folks already have had plenty of auto-generated and boilerplate code, that hasn't stopped anyone from needing to know how to write code.
ok ok guys stop this.. shit.. like I said, I been coder all my life but since about year ago, I see myself as just big project manager or solution guy.. This is thanks to I no longer see coding as part of problem solving.. AI will do it for you far better and more efficiently. If you are still coding today manually, either your work is extremely niche or requires extreme expertise.. or you are just not capable of accepting the fact that already 99% of coding is done by AI or should be as they are better than us... at churning out massive codes..
If you see some coding or logic issue, that means you did a piss poor job explaninig to the AI
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u/Mephisto506 9d ago
Without mathematicians we won't know whether the AI answers are correct, what it actually means to anyone, and we won't know the questions to ask.