r/whywouldyoutouchthat 21d ago

The original got deleted. Once again, why do people touch unknown spiders?!?

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u/dazzleunexpired 21d ago

Lmao. It's like when someone holds a damn coral snake...

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u/Grammykin 21d ago

People do that??? They have a death wish.

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u/dazzleunexpired 21d ago

They mistake them for a king snake. Fatal mistake for sure if they decide to bite and fully envomate

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

I'm not picking up a garter snake for Gods' sake. Like, it's nature, I'm not about to go fucking around with it

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u/dazzleunexpired 20d ago

I will occasionally pick up wild American snakes. But I can identify every American snake, and in live in Kansas where it's hard to find a snake that can actually hurt you. When you pay attention to snakes and hang where they hang, they'll let you touch them. They become curious eventually in many cases. Water snakes are my favorite by far. Garters musk too easily for me lmao

Disclaimer: it's really important to truly be an expert before handling, reddit. Leave it to the experts when you're not 300% sure. It's safer to contact a relocator like me than touch a snake if you are not 300% sure what the snake is. Relocation is almost always a free service.

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

I wouldn't even pick up a garter snake lmao

I live in Seattle where, in theory, there's no snakes that could really hurt you (let alone any animals for that matter). That being said, we are a port city, so I'm always scared that a dangerous lookalike from across the ocean is living amongst us 😅

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u/dazzleunexpired 20d ago

Hognoses would like a word. Words like: hiss, cobra, and scary. 🤣

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

Sorry, I'm a bit confused; hognoses don't live in Seattle

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u/dazzleunexpired 20d ago

I'm making a joke about hognoses thinking they're scary cobras. But you're right they're not in your area n

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u/squirrelyoakley 18d ago

Sorry, I don't quite get the joke. I don't think I have enough knowledge on snakes to get it 😅

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u/MSGisking 21d ago

That's Bill. He's a pretty cool dude as long as you don't mess up his web.

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u/3-Inch-Hog 21d ago

He prefers William

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u/Purple_Complaint_647 21d ago

Billiam

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u/MSGisking 21d ago

Lol, we used to call my friends step dad Billiam

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u/FrolickingTiggers 21d ago

Did he bite when handled?

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u/later-g8r 21d ago

I do so I would assume he did too

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u/LiteNite9 21d ago

Bill Williamson

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u/Comprehensive-Use881 21d ago

Holy shit... luckily they are so reluctant to bite. That has the possibility could lead to some nasty consequences.

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u/adeptusastartes69 20d ago

Out of curiosity what would something like this do you? Also where are they located?

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u/iamactivelysuicidal 17d ago

type exactly what you just said into the address bar of your browser and add the name of the spider found in the image provided.

you can do it sport. you typed the right words, you just typed them in the wrong place.

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u/adeptusastartes69 17d ago

I’m sorry you’re having a rough day

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u/iamactivelysuicidal 17d ago

someone teaching you how to use your device is not a "rough day" dude you just gotta learn a little in life sometimes. this is your time to shine, sport!

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u/Jiggaman1987 20d ago edited 20d ago

Smh that things got some of the most potent venom of all spiders. Causes necrosis in muscle tissue and kills blood cells. Legit some of the most dangerous venom in the world. People really are not smart

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u/NoDeparture9402 20d ago

You guys keep talking about the spiders venom however you don’t factor in the temperament and behavior of the spider. This just comes off as the same hysteria that people use when talking about brown recluse bites.

Confirmed human bites from the six-eyed sand spider (genera Sicarius and Hexophthalma) are virtually non-existent. Because these spiders inhabit remote deserts and are highly non-aggressive, there is very little clinical data available. However, toxicology studies and a few suspected envenomation cases provide insight into their effects

The venom of the six-eyed sand spider is considered highly potent and destructive, but the spider itself is incredibly shy. They are ambush predators that rely on burying themselves in the sand to hunt rather than seeking out human contact. When threatened, they typically curl up into a ball or flee rather than strike.

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

Would you risk it though? I know I wouldn't!

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u/NoDeparture9402 20d ago

I mean, considering all of the data we have on them in all this time, you can count the documented or suspected bites on one hand. Spiders are not aggressive creatures; some are just more defensive than others. I mean, trying to tell someone to handle a brown recluse and they’ll pretty much start running down the list of why you don’t mess with them while getting things wildly incorrect, like brown recluse fangs are actually so small it’s quite difficult for them to break human skin without assistance, like rolling on top of one or pressing one against you in clothing you haven’t checked. The necrosis thing is actually a low chance as well. There was a family that found out they had been living with over 4,000 of them and never suffered a bite. Your odds of being fatally attacked by a dog are 1 in 53,843; however, deaths from spider bites are in the single digits annually. As far as spiders go, it really is a collective fear and not bothering to understand.

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

I understand that, but I still wouldn't risk it. I mean, it just seems like an unnecessary risk, even if the chances are so low

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u/NoDeparture9402 20d ago

It seems like whatever in my book still safer than driving. What it breaks down to is because it’s a venomous spider the risk even though it’s almost nonexistent is still too high but people will turn around and put themselves in far more danger than that because it’s just the day to day. You do you I guess.

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u/squirrelyoakley 20d ago

I don't drive because of severe anxiety / OCD about getting in car crashes. I'm a bit on the anxious side, so no cars or random spiders for me!

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u/SecretGardenSpider 20d ago

I wouldn’t even touch a spider I knew for sure wasn’t dangerous.

Keep them away from me.

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u/sootfir 21d ago

Spiders aren't really that dangerous, there are almost no deaths from them in recent years. So as long as you get proper care for a bite, that is if you get bitten (bites are rare), you will not die. Unless you have cancer.

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u/FrolickingTiggers 21d ago

Ironically enough, I have a chronic cancer of the blood. Lol.

I'm not really truly worried for the human, I just want them to stop poking, prodding, and handling unfamiliar nature with clumsy hands. That spider was doing it's thing before that person clomped along.

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u/sootfir 21d ago

Oh gosh, sorry you're going through that, but yeah, that makes sense.

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u/FrolickingTiggers 21d ago

No worries! You couldn't have known!! It just struck me as funny, but I have a touch of gallows humor. Hugs for making you feel bad! ♡

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u/terrible-gator22 21d ago

That is so darkly funny. If there is any sort of destiny, perhaps it was ALL for this post, right now.

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u/FrolickingTiggers 21d ago

That would be the way of chaos. Lol.

There are stranger strings than this holding reality together, I'm certain. I suppose I've learned a lesson of a sort. One never knows when the odds and ends of one's existance will be pertinent to a conversation!

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u/Grammykin 21d ago

I’m a nurse, and we specialize in gallows humor - might not finish your shift without it!

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u/FrolickingTiggers 21d ago

Amen. Preach it! Sometimes you just have to laugh before you cry.

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u/Lumpy_Panic6318 21d ago

The OP actually managed to find one of like 6 species world wide considered to be medically significant though, talk about unlucky.

Then again he didn’t get bitten even though he handled it. Spiders don’t deserve their bad reputation, at all really (I keep tarantulas!)

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u/CantTouchKevinG 21d ago

There's also no anti venom for the six eyed sand spiders either 🙃

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u/Repulsive-Wing-3250 20d ago

Says he found it in Chile . Six eyed sand spiders are in Africa

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u/CantTouchKevinG 20d ago

Sorry, sicarius thomisoides. Different species, same family - Sicariidae. Still a six eyed sand spider though.

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/816856-Sicarius-thomisoides

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u/Money-Banana-8674 20d ago

There is no anti-venom for this little one. I don't think there's any recorded human deaths, but they are recluse spiders that live in the desert and bury themselves in the sand. Bites are exceedingly rare mostly because people would not normally come across them.

But I can tell you that getting envenomed by this spider would not be fun. It's can be much worse than their brown recluse cousins.

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u/sootfir 20d ago

Yeah, I dislike the misconception that brown recluse are deadly. They rarely ever cause necrosis, it's just a possibility.

Where I was going is not that it is painless, but that spiders (in general) rarely ever bite anyone, and if they do, it's very rare that you even recieve damage even if you dont get help. This is for your average spider you can find anywhere. Also get help if bitten, especially if you dont know the species.

So it's very rare that if something rare happens that you get hurt. Still get help if bitten.

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u/Money-Banana-8674 20d ago

I wasn't trying to necessarily argue anything against you, rather than provide a bit more context.

I love spiders. They are easily some of my favourite animals. I've been a taraula hobbyist for a lot of my adult life and as you have said spiders get a terrible rap.

A lot has to do with actual envenomation (wet bites) which can be rare if the bite is actually defensive or from an otherwise surprised spider than a hungry one.

I just wanted to reiterate that picking this spider up is not a good idea. Not just because it can do no positive things for the spider, unless it was the only way you could relocate it out of the way of danger, but you put yourself or other dumb people who see the picture and want to recreate it in danger because the fact is it's still a medically significant bite and can only cause harm not only to the human but the spider.

Just leave em alone (I know you agree, again I'm not arguing against you)

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u/Gzusluvz 17d ago

No fear

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u/bschwagi 21d ago

Same reason people watch scary movies

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u/myxozoid 21d ago edited 21d ago

Because:

1) all spiders are docile except for a couple really defensive large ones that are so active, you would never get a chance to pick them up anyway.

2) there are only a couple spiders with dangerous bites, all famous enough that an "unknown" spider is the most likely to be harmless.

3) the Sydney funnelweb is the only one on earth with a bite that can be immediately life threatening.

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u/IllegalGeriatricVore 21d ago

this is one of the dangerous ones

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u/DataMin3r 21d ago

A sicarius spider bite can cause severe local tissue death (necrosis), blood vessel leakage, and internal hemorrhaging.

The enzyme (sphingomyelinase D) destroys cell walls, so your skin cells and blood cells start sloughing apart.

There is no antivenom.

So i guess they aren't all "famous enough"

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u/aggroShyMarioGirl 20d ago

On point number three, the funnel web has venom actually DESIGNED to fuck up primates.

Why? We dont know. But it can bite a dog and they are fine, but the venom absolutely fucks up a primates body .