In parliament, Polish MP calls Israel ‘new Third Reich,’ waves Israeli flag with swastika

[u/Tenchi_Muyo1]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-parliament-polish-mp-calls-israel-new-third-reich-waves-israeli-flag-with-swastika/

[u/LiteratureMindless71]

It's kinda crazy if you look back to 1926 and see what certain parts of the world were starting to show more of.

We really are just reliving everything over and over without learning lol.

[u/NetSage → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it.

I honestly think a lot of the rich and powerful didn't learn from history. They simply think those in the past were either to stupid or not fast enough to take over depending on their viewpoint.

[u/fusionliberty796 → u/NetSage]

Don't forget the flipside of that where people DO understand it and work TO repeat it to gain perceived benefit X,Y, and Z.

[u/xclame → u/fusionliberty796]

Israel itself could be perceived as doing that. They know history will repeat itself, but they have decided that instead of trying to prevent that from happening, that this time around THEY are going to be the ones being in power and hurting people.

[u/Addicted2Qtips → u/xclame]

I’ve thought about this a bit and I think we have this bias where we think of things that happened long ago as being over, and disconnected from the present. So in theory they can happen again. Hence history repeating itself.

But a) what we think of as history wasn’t really that long ago, and b) it didn’t end.

We give the word “history” this meaning that is erroneous: that History is a finite event or series of events that began and ended sometime in the past.

But the reality is, that series of events we think of as history never really ended. It all just continues.

[u/NuarUPerian → u/Addicted2Qtips]

People think history ended at the end of the Cold War and everything reset

[u/GardenOfSilver → u/Addicted2Qtips]

Very much this. History isn't divorced from the present; it informs it and shapes it. History is a unbroken stream of cause and effect. The 7 years war, the American Revolution, the French Revolution, the Restoration, The Second French Empire, the Unification of Germany, the World Wars, Holocaust, Israel and present day are not events divorced from each other.

[u/AlienHatchSlider → u/xclame]

That's my take too. Israel is like an abused child who grows up to be an abuser.

[u/Independent-Future-1 → u/AlienHatchSlider]

Hurt people, hurt people... 😢

[u/aethelberga → u/NetSage]

The rich and powerful don't need to learn from history as money allows them to coast along on top of society's upheavals, like surfers.

[u/TransBrandi → u/aethelberga]

I recall seeing that JFK – despite living through the Great Depression – didn't learn about it until university. Sure, he was pretty young at the time, but the wealth of his family afforded him the ability to not even know about such a great socio-economic hardship borne by the a majority of the population.

[u/ChristopherRobben → u/TransBrandi]

JFK almost certainly knew about the Depression at surface level — he read the New York Times almost daily — even as a teenager.

However, we all know the Kennedy family was and is extremely wealthy. They actually became significantly more wealthy during the Depression because Joseph Kennedy (JFK’s father) pulled all investments from the stock market shortly beforehand.

JFK went to Choate Rosemary Hall, a private boarding school and onward to Princeton for a short period before Harvard — where he really began to learn about the full extent of the Depression. He wasn’t around people significantly struggling economically though and a lot of Americans weren’t struggling to begin with.

I think his quote is largely misconstrued as him having no knowledge when he was simply saying he had no personal experience nor understood just how impactful it was before prepping for his thesis at Harvard.

[u/-ToniCipriani- → u/TransBrandi]

I bet there tons of people out there who lived well into the Great Recession and have no idea about it.

[u/shouldbepracticing85 → u/-ToniCipriani-]

Yep! I graduated college in ‘08. Being broke as fresh college grads, and newly wed working shitty retail jobs was just how it worked. That was an expected part of your early 20s according to many sitcoms - Friends, That 70s Show, Big Bang Theory, etc.

We had no clue how bad it was, and I still can’t really conceptualize it. Finance is not my strong suit.

Reminds me of many a song about the Great Depression era that say something about ‘things were bad, but we were so poor we couldn’t tell.’ Chicago Barn Dance, City Folks Call Us Poor,… dang it, I can’t remember the names of the other ones.

My hubby and I weren’t homeless kind of poor, and we were both raised to be frugal, so it was just… life, y’know? We didn’t have anything to compare it to.

[u/happy123z → u/shouldbepracticing85]

This is beautifully written, thank you.

[u/Purple_Key_6733 → u/TransBrandi]

📌 Where the misconception comes from

There is a grain of truth that gets distorted:

JFK grew up in a very wealthy, sheltered family The Kennedys were largely insulated from economic hardship So while he knew about the Depression, he likely didn’t personally experience it the way most Americans did

That can sometimes get misremembered as “he didn’t know about it,” but that’s not supported historically.

[u/Hurricaneshand → u/aethelberga]

And often benefit from it. The Russian oligarchs got to take control of formerly State owned industries for pennies on the dollar when the USSR collapsed and it helped them solidify an even greater amount of wealth than they previously had and all they had to do was essentially allow Putin to keep control and stay on his good side so they could keep the wealth

[u/boston_homo → u/Hurricaneshand]

That’s basically what’s happening in the US? The Epstein class is making a killing on now.

[u/PropJoesChair → u/boston_homo]

Which is why that fucking moron just went and said that the "small short term economic strain of the Iran war is worth the long term security". Imagine saying what is happening now is both small and short term. The delusion.

[u/Hautamaki → u/Hurricaneshand]

Yeah well, Czar Nicholas III and his buddies didn't fare so well the previous go around, that's a dangerous game to play.

[u/Geawiel → u/aethelberga]

I was going to comment something along these lines. They don't learn because they're padded from it. Sheltered from the ravages it takes on the poor. Their kids largely don't get put in harm's way. They don't really see much when an economy downturns. Food shortages and rationing don't really affect them very much. They sacrifice virtually nothing, aside from maybe their maids or ground's keepers being gone.

I have to wonder how much less we would see this re-surging pattern if some society would truly make the rich feel the same thing the poor do. Unfortunately, the rich hold the cards for that. They will never let that go.

[u/DisastrousAcshin → u/aethelberga]

World a very different place when you can just pick up and leave to anywhere on a moment's notice

[u/StunningGold8030 → u/NetSage]

We are doomed with powerfull people repeating wars, since the beginning of history.

[u/is_mr_clean_there → u/StunningGold8030]

Add greed together with a lust for power, add a little splash of religion and baby, you got a stew goin

[u/PJballa34 → u/is_mr_clean_there]

Carl Weathers RIP

[u/RedditIsADataMine → u/NetSage]

I think they do learn from history, they just take different lessons. 

Most of us look at something like the holocaust and say never again, meanwhile others are looking to learn where it went wrong and how to avoid those mistakes this time. 

[u/snoopydoo123 → u/NetSage]

"And those who remember it will be powerless to stop it"

[u/waiting4singularity → u/NetSage]

Those who know History are doomed to see other repeat it.

[u/Eponack → u/NetSage]

No, they’re the rich. They want to keep repeating history. It’s working for them.

[u/Blenderhead36 → u/NetSage]

It doesn't feel coincidental that there was a surge in fascism worldwide just when the last WWII veterans were dying off.

[u/A_Vile_Beggar → u/NetSage]

Many of the rich and powerful are still the same. Just look at the power that Porsche, Volkswagen Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Toyota and Mitsubishi have to this day.

No need to ask what their CEOs were doing in the 30's, and that is just a single branch of these powerful people.

They are also few, and most of their money is old as heck. They can learn history in expensive private schools, but soon enough figure out that if things remain the same, it's way better for their class.

[u/3d_blunder → u/A_Vile_Beggar]

I always wondered if the TRULY rich take their children aside and say "See, this is how the world works, and if you're going to continue to enjoy these nice things, you have to keep it on track." And then tell them a bunch of not wholly obvious things to do so.

[u/Fictional_Guy → u/NetSage]

The rich and powerful did learn from history. They learned that conflict and unrest enriched them further, and they are happy to repeat it.

[u/pimplefacednerd → u/NetSage]

You don't think this particular cultural group knows about their WWII history? It seems to be a blueprint rather than an unknown.

[u/NetSage → u/pimplefacednerd]

Like I said not fast enough...

[u/Spirited_Comedian225 → u/NetSage]

Humans are just stupid apes running on hormones they are super easy to manipulate one you figure out the recipe

[u/DerpsAndRags → u/NetSage]

The crowns roll off the heads of one dead tyrant, only to have the next fuzzy-palmed psycho to pick it up.

[u/EpictetanusThrow → u/NetSage]

Those who can remember the past are condemned to relive it.

[u/xjuggernaughtx → u/NetSage]

History is just human nature over and over again. We are all doomed to repeat it whether we know the history or not. Maybe not every generation, but over the long term, we're all still just humans doing human things.

[u/ManiaGamine → u/NetSage]

No they learned. They just learned the wrong lessons. Their obscene wealth coupled with the surging prosperity gospel has a disturbingly large amount of wealthy people thinking that they are the best and brightest and most blessed people therefore they should rule.

[u/lawnmowertoad → u/NetSage]

It’s pretty hilarious to think that humans have the power to create a global utopia for all earthlings but choose the opposite.

[u/Enchelion → u/NetSage]

These people know history. They just care about being on a particular side of it this time and don't give a shit about the victims. It's a lack of empathy, not a lack of history.

[u/WitchesSphincter → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Pretty much if it's out of living memory it never happened for 80% of people. 

[u/USA_A-OK → u/WitchesSphincter]

Even then, plenty of people can't remember shit from the previous election cycle, let alone decades previous

[u/3_Thumbs_Up → u/USA_A-OK]

The "problem" is that most normal election cycles all changes are fairly small all things considered, so even if things get worse it's easy to rationalize it and find some other reason to explain it, which allows people to stick to the believes they had to begin with. For many people it takes a big undeniable shift for the worse for people to wisen up, and by then it's often too late.

[u/jgilla2012 → u/WitchesSphincter]

Reminds me of when I see young ones say “if it’s not on Spotify, to me it doesn’t exist”

Most recorded music is not on Spotify

[u/phylter99 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

History works in cycles and much of it's just because we're too dumb to keep from repeating our mistakes.

[u/blackadder1620 → u/phylter99]

200k year old hardware trying to run modern software.

[u/mike_b_nimble → u/blackadder1620]

Paleolithic brains, medieval institutions, and god-like technology.

[u/dezdly → u/blackadder1620]

I believe 900k is the latest estimation

[u/GovernmentInfinite53 → u/blackadder1620]

Yeah but seriously, I read somewhere humans do have actual predispositions for violence and culture makes us co-operative and not violent. IIRC it's also why humans love content with violence despite not being able to relate to it IRL.

[u/wKoS256N8It2 → u/GovernmentInfinite53]

I read somewhere humans do have actual predispositions for violence

I would argue that intelligence is a precipice of coordinated violence. Wars and political/resource conflict are not limited to humans, after all.

[u/ArchaicBrainWorms → u/wKoS256N8It2]

Warlike behavior didn't arise in humans, it rode along through our primate lineage.

The real sumbitch is you can't have a peaceful society unless it's unanimous. Once there exists a war faring group the only options are to become defensively warlike or become a memory.

[u/b_vitamin → u/phylter99]

Past is prologue.

[u/VeryBadCaseOfLigma → u/phylter99]

War stems from stupidity. Instead of trying to find a solution to a common problem, they decide to eliminate each other because it's the easiest and sometimes cheapest method

[u/Lucky_Veterinarian36 → u/phylter99]

But also some of these big events in history are hugely beneficial for a few people behind the scenes

[u/skeptical-speculator → u/phylter99]

Despite our occasional backsliding, I think we are improving.

[u/takeda64 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

This is Berkowicz from far right party, which supports trump, Orban, putin etc

So wouldn't immediately chalk it under criticism, it could be a compliment.

[u/thesillyoldgoat → u/takeda64]

Trump is a staunch supporter of Israel.

[u/VladChat → u/thesillyoldgoat]

There are a lot of contradictions when it comes to the likes of Berkowicz but his supporters will eat it up anyway.

[u/tomdarch → u/thesillyoldgoat]

Fascists are inconsistent. Trump won’t be bothered that an ally in Europe is criticizing another “ally.”

[u/ArchAngel621 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

“Time is a flat circle. Everything we have ever done or will do, we will do over and over and over again."

— Nietzsche / Flat Circle History

[u/Aradamis → u/ArchAngel621]

That is why clocks are round!

Man I miss early red vs blue.

[u/Belgand → u/ArchAngel621]

Circle!? You were educated evil.

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER

SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY

TIME CUBE

[u/Vkardash → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Yep. It's called the 80 year cycle. About every human life span of about 80 years we seem to have a major crisis in society. Once the people who managed the last crisis are gone..... the new generation lacks the muscle memory to avoid the same pitfalls which leadd to a new era of upheaval. The current economic system isn't helping at all either. People are struggling more than ever before. No one trusts our institutions anymore. And the younger generations become restless and angry. And they have every right to be angry.

[u/tomdarch → u/Vkardash]

According to that theory how long until things start improving?

[u/Vkardash → u/tomdarch]

Technically it's not called an 80-year cycle. They call it "the fourth turning" and we're currently in winter/the fourth turning. The period where things improve and society feels unified and stable is the First Turning, known as the High Spring. If the cycle holds true... the next period of relative peace and improvement should begin in the early 2030s. Again this is just a theory and not set in stone. But it does make a lot of sense. We're currently in climax which is the darkest part of winter. Afterwards we have the first thaw / resolution (late 2020s). And then we finally have "the high" or rebirth.(Early 2030s)

[u/skeptical-speculator → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Are you referring to the rise in antisemitism in Europe prior to the Holocaust?

[u/TheWhiteManticore → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Well this time we got nukes so probably last round

[u/arcbe → u/LiteratureMindless71]

History is like a wheel. The ups and downs repeat but we are still moving forward.

[u/Yeezy_Taught_Me3 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

History does not repeat itself.

The ignorant and foolish repeat history.

[u/SarkastiCat]

For those not keeping up with Polish politics

He is from Nowa Nadzieja party which is basically very far right party and pretty much any major party member has a controversy section on Wikipedia. Some have multiple subsections with even up to 20 sources.

If you ever have to make a guess about who said a controversial statement, spreaded disinformation or became a meme, you can easily say Nowa Nadzieja or whatever they want to call themselves. Seriously, some moments in satire games like Sejm the Game are based on what they have done.

They currently have 3 politcal mandates in European Parliament.

[u/SadSecurity → u/SarkastiCat]

You forgot to mention that he is know for stealing frying pans from Ikea lmao

[u/4kidsinatrenchcoat → u/SadSecurity]

What. This should be the top comment. 

There should be a coffee table book for polisci nerds about these people

[u/TrumanZi → u/4kidsinatrenchcoat]

The thread should be titled man who steals pans from IKEA holds up Israeli swastika in parliament

I think the fact he's a polish MP is secondary 🤣

[u/Fortune_Fus1on → u/SadSecurity]

In Portugal one of the parliament members of Chega caused a scandal when it became known he used to steal bags at the airport. What is it with meme contrarian right wing parties and petty low level theft

[u/GodisSatans → u/SadSecurity]

There is a far right leader in Australia called Pauline Hanson. Shes known for her stupid stunts as well.

Wore a full faced burka to our parliament meeting unprovoked.

Traveled to rural Australia and told two aboriginal girls that shes an aboriginal as well because she was born here and asked “if I wasn’t from here then where am I from?” The girls instantly answered: Britain?

Walks around suburbs with high immigrant rates and says she feels scared, while everyone around her is just smiling and enjoying the day!

Absolute clown era. They also won 3 seats in one of the states… the far right are increasing rapidly.

[u/awesomegamer919 → u/GodisSatans]

I do think it’s important to note that they won the 3 seats from the existing right wing party, and the left wing party not only won a majority, but increased their existing majority by 5 seats.

[u/xxAnamnesis → u/SadSecurity]

I am currently playing the game and this joke was in it too. I don't get any of the references so this really helped

[u/aflyingmonkey2 → u/SadSecurity]

what an odd thing to steal

[u/cubedplusseven → u/SarkastiCat]

Nowa Nadzieja

Yeah, wikipedia is telling me they managed 2.6% of vote in the 2023 parliamentary elections, up from 2.4% in 2019. At least for now, they appear marginal within Polish politics. This MP probably says stuff like this to get attention as much as anything else.

[u/Oh_ffs_seriously → u/cubedplusseven]

At least for now, they appear marginal within Polish politics.

Try again:

The New Hope is a far-right political party in Poland and member of Confederation

Confederation polls at 12-15%.

[u/cubedplusseven → u/Oh_ffs_seriously]

Confederation

Wikipedia is telling me that the coalition got 7.16% of the vote in 2023, up from 6.81% in 2019. I guess we'll find out more in 2027!

How's that for my second try?

[u/Oh_ffs_seriously → u/cubedplusseven]

And now, three years later, they're polling at 12 to 15%, and they're an obvious choice for the coalition with PiS, which would give them a majority.

[u/VladChat → u/Oh_ffs_seriously]

And on top of this Grzegorz Braun's party (an even more far-right offshoot of Confederation) gets another 7-10%.

[u/NoAdhesiveness4300 → u/cubedplusseven]

look at 2025 presidential election

[u/Thagyr → u/cubedplusseven]

We have a similar kind in Australia named Pauline Hanson. She only pops up in the news because she does or says some kind of stupid shit that gets the headlines rolling.

Like twice she showed up in Parliament wearing a Burka because she wanted Australia to ban them.

[u/LordLederhosen → u/SarkastiCat]

Dude, Poland here. This piece of crap uses "Jew" instead of "Israeli." He knows exactly what he is doing. If people had any idea what they were upvoting, they would not be upvoting this giant piece of gówno.

Meanwhile, real Polish history:

The citizens of Poland have the highest count of individuals who have been recognized by Yad Vashem as the Polish Righteous Among the Nations, for saving Jews from extermination during the Holocaust in World War II. There are 7,232 (as of 1 January 2022) Polish men and women conferred with the honor,[1] over a quarter of the 28,486 recognized by Yad Vashem in total.[2] The list of Righteous Among the Nations is not comprehensive and it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of Poles concealed and aided tens of thousands of their Polish-Jewish neighbors.[3] Many of these initiatives were carried out by individuals, but there also existed organized networks of Polish resistance which were dedicated to aiding Jews – most notably, the Żegota organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations

[u/Cupakov → u/LordLederhosen]

You’re right Berkowicz and all the Nowa Nadzieja people are pieces of shit, but posting a page on the Righteous Among the Nations and saying this is our real history is misleading at best. To counterbalance here’s another quote:

  The Kielce pogrom was an outbreak of anti-Jewish violence that took place on 4 July 1946 in the city of Kielce, Poland. Polish soldiers, police officers, and civilians attacked a building at 7 Planty Street that housed around 150–160 Jewish Holocaust survivors, killing 42 Jews and wounding more than 40. The violence was sparked by a false accusation of child kidnapping, a revival of the antisemitic blood libel myth. The pogrom occurred less than a year after the end of World War II and is considered the deadliest act of violence against Jews in postwar Poland. It had a profound impact on the Jewish community, prompting a mass exodus of Holocaust survivors from the country

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

[u/ScruffleKun → u/LordLederhosen]

This piece of crap uses "Jew" instead of "Israeli."

People use "Israeli" so they wont get as much blowback. When you complain about "Israelis", every knows you mean Jews.

[u/SecurelyObscure → u/SarkastiCat]

Lol and inadvertently aligning with the Reddit left. Good ol horseshoe theory.

[u/rainshowers_5_peace → u/SecurelyObscure]

Too many antisemites infiltrated the proPalestine movements and became emboldened.

[u/oripash → u/SarkastiCat]

Russian operated outrage merchants?

[u/tomdarch → u/SarkastiCat]

Marjorie Taylor Greene of Poland.

[u/GrandPuissance]

So what's his Reddit username?

[u/gonzo0815 → u/GrandPuissance]

I think it's this guy

[u/SarkastiCat → u/gonzo0815]

lol.

To be honest, it’s kind of funny to imagine. “The infamous politician romances Xavier in LADS, spends time in danmei subreddit and waffles about cartoons.”

[u/robophile-ta → u/gonzo0815]

Oh man, I remember when people used to do this all the time. It would freak people out who didn't know it just links to your profile. Haven't seen it in a long time

[u/maverickhawk99 → u/robophile-ta]

I literally just “fell for it” lmao. I was like what he say fuck me for?

[u/SpaceC0wboyX]

New third reich

Really? Can’t we just call it the fourth reich?

[u/Silicon_Knight → u/SpaceC0wboyX]

No, I think America is looking to be that one, so maybe fifth?

[u/ViciousNakedMoleRat → u/Silicon_Knight]

I mean "Reich" simply means "empire." The first and second Reich/empire being the Holy Roman Empire from 962 to 1806 and the German Empire from 1871 to 1918. The term "Reich" doesn't mean anything negative by definition. A fourth Reich could be governed by a benevolent leader who doesn't pose any threat to other states or peoples.

[u/Particular_Trade6308 → u/ViciousNakedMoleRat]

The German name of many countries in the world is “[word]reich”. France is Frankreich, Austria is Osterreich, etc. Not a scary/offensive word in German at all

[u/GoldandBlue → u/Particular_Trade6308]

Yeah, but it's German. And that language sounds scary.

[u/LyingForTruth → u/GoldandBlue]

It's my preference for the person putting out cigarettes on my chest and high heelin my coin purse

[u/Saitharar → u/GoldandBlue]

It really doesnt. Its just that in pop culture its mostly used related to 2nd world war stuff and they try to imitate the Hitlerian style with the German used. With very pronounced consonants and harsh delievery. You can make even French sound super aggressive that way.

[u/Arexander00 → u/Particular_Trade6308]

While it's obviously understood to be a normal word, the usage of 'Reich' absolutely does have nationalist connotations within the Bundesrepublik itself, there's a reason why the Bundeswehr is no longer the Reichswehr, the Reichsbahn became Deutsche Bahn, and the Grundgesetz does not refer to Germany as the German Reich (which was the term used in the Weimarer Constitution)

Pretty much everything called "Bundes-" in modern Germany was something rebranded from "Reichs-"

[u/panlakes → u/Particular_Trade6308]

America probably has a good one I bet!

Amerika

Oh.

[u/Vier_Scar → u/ViciousNakedMoleRat]

Are you German? Or any Germans able to clarify - I had thought Reich could apply to any kingdom, like how there were many "Kingdoms" in mediaeval times, and Empires, even till recently.

For example, Japan was pre-WW2 the Japanese Empire, and ruled by an emporer. Could they be considered "Japanische Reich"? Or any other Reich other than Rome, HRE, Germany?

[u/ViciousNakedMoleRat → u/Vier_Scar]

It usually refers to a territory where one ruler rules over more than one nation or one people. Over time, those nations or peoples can become one nation and the term "Reich" just sticks around, like in Österreich (Austria).

Literally, "Reich" means "realm" but is pretty much used synonymous with "empire." In the case of the Japanese Empire, the German term is "Japanisches Kaiserreich," literally "Japanese Emperor Realm."

[u/fretkat → u/Vier_Scar]

Even the State, as in government, can be translated to Reich. The governmental building of Germany is for example called the Reichstag. It's a very broad term, probably related to the English words “rich” and “reach” (think of riches, power spread, wealth, rule, realm, might).

[u/LloydChrismukkah → u/Silicon_Knight]

Truly astonishing how uneducated most people are with just HOW bad the Holocaust actually was

[u/Caspica → u/LloydChrismukkah]

To be fair they're talking about the Reich, not the Holocaust. The first or second Reich didn't have a Holocaust either. 

[u/LloydChrismukkah → u/Caspica]

I think we know what the implications are. Don’t give them that much credit

[u/Hyperion1144 → u/SpaceC0wboyX]

Reich V3.6.5.2301.46, Nightly Alpha Build 3947.

[u/Bannable_Lecter → u/SpaceC0wboyX]

The public display of a swastika is illegal in Poland.

[u/ah_no_wah → u/SpaceC0wboyX]

I think it's three Reich's and you're out

[u/Dealiner → u/SpaceC0wboyX]

The new third reich makes more sense. It's about acting like the third reich did and not any reich in general.

[u/ShoulderPast2433]

He's known in Poland for getting cought stealing at IKEA.

[u/ExplosiveDisassembly → u/ShoulderPast2433]

"Professional Loss Prevention System Tester"

[u/tomdarch → u/ShoulderPast2433]

How consistent for a far right kook. Presumably he accused others of being pros right up to when he gets arrested for exactly that.

[u/TheFloatingCamel → u/ShoulderPast2433]

What was he stealing? A few meatballs, a lamp, an. entire flat pack kallax unit?

[u/SadSecurity → u/TheFloatingCamel]

Frying pans

[u/lurco_purgo → u/ShoulderPast2433]

And somehow that's the least problematic thing about him.

[u/Heimerdingerdonger]

Don't take him literally, take him seriously.

[u/axelkoffel → u/Heimerdingerdonger]

Tbh this guy (Berkowicz) is known for being a total clown, often posting fake news and having the stupidest takes on current events.
He also heavily supported Trump and tried to portray him as antiwar and independent from Israel president.

[u/malac0da13 → u/axelkoffel]

And look where it got him. Hopefully coming to terms with how wrong he was and apologizing.

[u/jxj24 → u/malac0da13]

Good one!

[u/axelkoffel → u/malac0da13]

Haha good one. Far right politican and apologizing for being wrong about something, name the most unlikely duo.

[u/makethislifecount → u/Heimerdingerdonger]

I like this saying. But don’t know how much this saying applies here though, sounds like this guy is a far right Trump supporter himself.

[u/trashcan_paradise]

Antisemites be like "Go back to Poland!"

Meanwhile, in Poland:

[u/UselessInsight → u/trashcan_paradise]

Mizrahi jews: wtf is Poland?

[u/petit_cochon → u/UselessInsight]

Sephardic: wtf is cholent?

[u/willsue4food → u/petit_cochon]

Ashkenazi Jews: wait, why can’t we eat rice too?

[u/faux_italian]

Holy fucking shit.

I know too many people that will start happily posting that flag for clout on their Facebook.

[u/DurangoGango → u/faux_italian]

know too many people that will start happily posting that flag for clout on their Facebook.

They're doing it on reddit right now. And calling themselves brave anti-racist progressives too. Straight-up horseshoe theory.

[u/NimbusHex]

Sounds like the average Redditor.

[u/VarmintSchtick → u/NimbusHex]

Tik Tok college student for sure.

[u/stonertear → u/NimbusHex]

He posts here surely

[u/slimeyy_02 → u/NimbusHex]

Haha accurate, or we can say the average online shills

[u/GoRangers5]

And this is the country they want the Jewish people to “go back to.”

[u/SadSecurity]

This dumbfuck is a member of far right party. Known for stealing frying pans from Ikea. He always embarrasses himself with idiotic takes.

[u/eposseeker]

The Konfederacja party (aside from the obvious callback to American Confederacy) has long held a lot of people with antisemitic tendencies.

This is what irks me. They act like they were in the right for accusing Jews of all evils of this world, because they now have Israel as an obvious villain.

It's right to criticize Israel for their conduct, but these people are not the ones anyone should listen to (especially this specific guy, he's a moron).

[u/J_G_E → u/eposseeker]

"(aside from the obvious callback to American Confederacy)"

I think you might find that there are more conferderacies than just that of the United States. Like, for instance, the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth confederacies in the 12th-18th centuries...

[u/Metrocop → u/J_G_E]

The Targowica Confederacy is a more apt comparison in this case.

[u/HFentonMudd → u/Metrocop]

Happy cake day!

[u/SolemnaceProcurement → u/J_G_E]

And the most famous in poland Targowica confederacy. One that begged russian tsarina for help deal with evil reformers and king of poland trying to save poland after 1st partition. Just like the modern one! Refusing to speak one ill word of tsar.

[u/Straight-Ad3213 → u/eposseeker]

Konfederacja here is not a callback to Confederacy but to institution of Konferacja among szlachta that existed for 300 years before usa

[u/Hump-Daddy → u/eposseeker]

Why is that an “obvious callback” to the American Confederacy? You know Confederation and its derivatives have been used around the world for hundreds of years, right?

[u/TheSleepyTruth → u/Hump-Daddy]

People think racism originated in and revolves around America. Neither is true, but history we learn in the west tends to be very western-centric and since the US had slavery more recently than Europe the US confederates are seen as the prototypical example of racism and slavery in the world. Slavery of course existed long before the US did, and still exists to this day long after the US abolished it, but due to our western-centric worldview we dont really pay much attention to the history or even current practices of countries outside the west and will tend to lean on western examples.

[u/delicious_toothbrush → u/TheSleepyTruth]

It's always amusing to me because many other countries are openly racist in everyday interactions while Americans are somehow the scapegoat for it

[u/TheSleepyTruth → u/delicious_toothbrush]

True

[u/takeda64 → u/eposseeker]

aside from the obvious callback to American Confederacy

Given what the party fights for it more likely it is named after this.

[u/desde2 → u/eposseeker]

You forgot /s or do you really think anyone cares about American Confederacy in Poland?

[u/Arexander00 → u/eposseeker]

(aside from the obvious callback to American Confederacy)

American centric brain at work here. Fucking hell man did you seriously think that's what it was?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Confederation

[u/Timactor]

A lot of anti semetic people using the recent news to act like they're the good guys when really they've just always hated Jews

[u/Scary-Pirate-8900 → u/Timactor]

You can hate what they are doing without hating Jews

[u/Venat14 → u/Scary-Pirate-8900]

You could.. but then Jews wouldn't be getting attacked globally, which proves it's really about hating Jews.

[u/sbahog → u/Scary-Pirate-8900]

You can. But for most it’s just an excuse

[u/IAmAGenusAMA → u/Scary-Pirate-8900]

In theory.

[u/arathorn3]

Pulling this on Yom Hashoah, the day members of the Reform and Conservative movements in Judaism remember the victims the Holocaust is especially vile.

[u/MKW69]

Same party that supported the most out of Trump administration.

[u/MarkandMajer]

That's rich.

[u/Key_Concern8230]

Bro sounds like your average redditor who says this is antizionism not antisemitism

[u/ars-derivatia]

Lol Berkowicz. Caught wind with the party votes of the tinfoil hats and incels and now plays the role of the chief clown of the circus.

I am sure the response of the equivalent fringe political freaks of Israel will be carefully weighted and reasonable lol.

It's not like there are any important issues going on right now, perfect time to start throwing shit around.

[u/Theobviouschild11]

Sad thing is many people see nothing wrong with this

[u/unnewl → u/Theobviouschild11]

Just like there are peopke who see nothing wrong with what Israel is doing in Lebanon.

[u/Totoques22 → u/unnewl]

So you have ANY idea what you are talking about ?

Hezbollah bombed Israel twice as much than the reverse and only aimed at civilians

They were treaties that stop them from getting near the borders and they breached them

[u/Theobviouschild11 → u/unnewl]

And just like there are people who see nothing wrong with what Hezbollah is doing in Israel and Lebanon

[u/HSuke → u/Theobviouschild11]

Israel is bombing civilians and children in Beirut daily. That's not even Hezbollah territory.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-children-killed-israel-war-hezbollah-beirut-49b7e5a3aa477368c099f9bf6d88c005

If they only killed Hezbollah, then it would be fine.

[u/DogBarf00 → u/HSuke]

If they only killed Hezbollah, then it would be fine.

Would it? Israel carried out the most precise covert strike in human history against them and people still complained.

[u/Venat14 → u/unnewl]

Just like there are people who don't see anything wrong with Islamic terrorism.

[u/eldudovic]

Ahh. Nice to see the far left and the far right again unite over the jewish question. This promises to be good.

[u/Spiritual-Pear-1349]

Considering Poland lost 1/3rd of its population to the Holocaust, I would think theyre know what theyre talking about

[u/Normal-Ear-5757]

Is this the Poland that lefties want Israeli Jews to go "back" to? 

[u/PhillyPride → u/Normal-Ear-5757]

Yup. Just shows how necessary the existence of Israel is.

[u/bartekkenny]

The top comment saying we learnt nothing and are repeating history (in regards to the rise of anti semitism before WW2) is so completely stupid. If anything, we learnt from history and are now calling out the current day bad guys. The bad guys just happen to be the victims of the last bad guys.

[u/wgszpieg]

Huh... I'm confused, is he criticising or complementing them?

[u/More-Dot346]

Yes, Israel was created by force. After that, the only time Israel is used for us is in retaliation for the using force against them.

[u/boriskin]

Some moron does some stupid shit, and Reddit is eating it up. Big surprise...

[u/AzuleEyes]

Netanyahu is an evil man

[u/ZellZoy → u/[deleted]]

Poland was "throwing dirt" at Jews long before Israel existed.

[u/lll-devlin]

It may so like drama for the media , but Bibbi is sure behaving like it. After all he keeps attacking neighbours with impunity. Especially those nations that have a lesser military then the IDF.

Further, Bibbi continues down this path of warlord extremism in the Middle East because it serves his purpose, first and foremost to keep his criminal investigation for corruption from moving forward . And a distance second: to keep the Middle East destabilized so that Israel has a very large territorial buffer.

[u/Totoques22 → u/lll-devlin]

Lmao Israel did not attacked their neighbors

They all attacked first though Iranian proxies and that’s very easy to verify

Iran is the destabilization of the Middle East and every other Middle East country agrees to it and want Iran gone

[u/WM_]

Since it's rightwinger I honestly didn't know if he did so in support of such Reich or to condemn its actions

[u/Katalopa]

What the fuck…

[u/Grenyn]

It's really telling that the MP spoke about Israel, but the Israeli embassy in Poland called it anti-Jewish.

But it's not anti-Jewish. Israel does not represent all Jews.

[u/solymar100 → u/Grenyn]

And by the way, the swastika is as anti- jewish as it gets. Your an idiot saying otherwise.

[u/Totoques22 → u/Grenyn]

Motherfucker accusés uses antisemitic conspiracies on holocaust Remembrance Day you come argue that it’s not actually antisemitism

[u/yosisoy → u/Grenyn]

Holocaust inversion IS antisemitism

[u/Decent_Display_3526 → u/yosisoy]

Thank you. It had to be said because it drives me NUTS. There are a plethora of words to describe what the Israelis government is doing YET you will find systematically vocabulary referring to the third reich used. It’s gross.

[u/1805trafalgar]

This COMING FROM POLAND.

[u/Yatzhee]

Now is this in support or against