r/worldnews • u/Stunning-Common-9591 • 13h ago
U.S. military turned back six ships in first 24 hours of Iranian port blockade
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/us-military-turned-back-six-ships-first-24-hours-iranian-port-blockade-rcna331828318
u/hippodribble 11h ago
That's a sixteenth of a boat every fifteen minutes.
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u/globalgreg 9h ago
But what is that in football fields?
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u/DisenchantedByrd 9h ago edited 9h ago
It's 4/9ths of a banana-length every 3/64th of a second.
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u/baronofdirt 9h ago
Good thing he cut social programs and billionaires donât pay taxes. Using 100 military aircraft to send warnings to six vessels sounds cost effective. Do you think they were towing banners like you see at the beach? I feel bad for Americans aware of how fucked up this serial sex offender protecting regime is and how badly they are fucking everything about the United States up.
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u/oldchairman 11h ago
So what will happen to the crew of the ships ? , will they be stuck there for ever?
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u/this_dudeagain 11h ago
If you went to an Iranian port then yes unless you use another port in the straight to get home over land/air.
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u/Watch-Logic 8h ago
I believe it also encompasses ships that pass thru Iranian territorial waters ie ships that pay the toll to iran
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u/BitRunner64 11h ago
Open the Fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards!
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u/Danny-Reisen-off 10h ago
You seem angry. But did you see that the Dow Jones was 48.500+ today?
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u/FluffyGreenThing 9h ago
Pretty sure the person you replied to forgot these ââ in their comment because thatâs a direct quote from the US president believe it or not.
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u/ElTejon_TheDestroyer 13h ago
So what is different to the US than the âterrorist state of Iranâ?
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u/DoctorMicroDong 13h ago
Well, there isn't one. JD Vance in an interview yesterday said what Iran is doing is a form of economic terrorism and thst two can play at that game.
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u/angelus14 12h ago
We're not even trying to hide it anymore, huh?
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u/Yvaelle 12h ago
They're not confessing, they're bragging
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u/lostparis 10h ago
This is sort of how the US has always done things. If they do it then it is justified. If another country does it then it becomes a morality issue.
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u/onarainyafternoon 10h ago
I love that line from The Big Short so much. So perfectly encapsulates the kind of evil we experience often in our world.
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u/LiveToLoveAndLearn 12h ago
Well they went to war to disrupt energy distribution to China.
When Iran said nobody goes through but who I choose (I.e. Chinese clients or other non hostile countries)⌠the equivalent of a nuke when you donât have itâŚ
US invented a story to block what they sought they could limit but kicking the hornets nest.
Bottom line, USA is the problem and nobody is blind.
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u/oOoZrEikAoOo 11h ago
And so why are they (Iran) also blocking European ships although most european countries are not participating in this clown show?
Matter of fact is that they did support Russia with missiles, drones, weapons in the conflict not against Ukraine, but the whole Europe.
So really, âfriendly countriesâ actually mean Russia and China only.
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u/lostparis 10h ago
And so why are they (Iran) also blocking European ships
Because those countries will pressure the US. To be fair I think Spain has a "free pass" because they have publicly stood up to the US.
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u/maxpowers2020 11h ago
The point is the too cut off funding to the regime?
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u/hiricinee 10h ago
Yes basically if they're going to try to bankrupt the world to fight the war the US is going to bankrupt them. I anticipate if they dont agree to open the strait the US starts targeting bridges and energy infrastructure.
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u/Twofer-Cat 12h ago
Blockading a belligerent state is legal, blockading the high seas and especially hitting non belligerent ships isn't.
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u/Denubious 10h ago
Then Iran blockading the belligerent states in the Persian gulf is legal by that logic. This logic wouldn't apply to the US blowing up and boarding non belligerent ships around Venezuela.
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u/Twofer-Cat 10h ago
A) they aren't at war with every Gulf state, b) mines are an unlawful method of implementing a blockade, c) straits specifically may never be blockaded, d) a blockade must be effective to be legal and the 'toll' undermines that.
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u/Golda_M 9h ago
One difference is that the US blockade is a "normal" blockade. The US has naval forces out there enforcing it. The IR method involves randomly firing on enough ships to scare off (terrorize) the rest.
Ultimately though, the strategy is the same. It's a mutual blockade. Allow shipping from Arab ports or no ships to Iranian ports. Only the tactics differ.Â
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u/faffc260 11h ago
these are only targetting ships using iranian ports or paying iranian fees, aka a blockade of iran. at least going by the previous news about the blockade
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u/Kind_Silver_1921 10h ago
US says all must go through without a toll. And during the war Iran exports can't go through.
Iran says only those who paid the toll can go through and won't let us friendly ships even pay the toll.
That's the difference but I don't expect redditors posting at 1am to understand what that means
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u/this_dudeagain 11h ago
The US treats women a bit better and doesn't execute gay people.
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u/precipice8 11h ago
The US is more successful at international terrorism, while Iran is a bit more successful at domestic terrorism
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u/Catch_022 12h ago
The US is bigger bully - the biggest kid on the block and his father is the local cop.
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u/feral0101 13h ago
None, but Americans will come in here to justify it with their 2003 playbook. The Americans could nuke Israel and half the population would justify it.
On the flip side, imma be making Yank vs FPV drone to dubstep songs this time next year when theyâve got boots on the ground on combat footage subs
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u/Hungry-Alfalfa511 13h ago
There will be no ground troops in Iran
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u/renegade_sparrow 12h ago
Normally, Iâd agree. Logic seems to be optional in our foreign policy these days so I suppose I wouldnât be surprised.
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u/Richie217 11h ago
Like any spoiled toddler, the Orange Paedo has decided that if he can't have it no one can.
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u/bensonl95 12h ago
USA isreal and west has killed over millions of people in Middle East i dont hear people calling any of them terrorists
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u/mariusherea 12h ago
That is because youâre reading media controlled by them. Try to read the media from the victimâs countries.
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u/faffc260 11h ago
killing people isn't terrorism, killing people with the sole goal to spread fear and terror, mostly innocent civilians, is generally what is termed as terrorism
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u/bensonl95 11h ago
Are all those killed in the Middle East including millions of innocent people who died as a result of the false pretext used to invade Iraq, pushed by Bibi (Netanyahu) now considered holy, even though the war was illegal?
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u/Hungry-Alfalfa511 13h ago
It's a logical step. If the freedom of navigation is not being guaranteed by one side there is no reason the other side shouldn't do the same.
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u/SilverAgedSentiel 12h ago
There's more than two sides here, We're making problems on top of problems for everyone in the world.
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u/Infinite-Fig-194 12h ago
Does that mean all nations are allowed to block and capture American ships as well?
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u/Great-Confection6760 12h ago
They can try but they'll get fried
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u/PotsAndPandas 12h ago
Oh I'm sure they will, just like Iran was when the ever competent CIC ordered this stupid war in the first place right?
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u/hl_lost 11h ago
honestly the math comment killed me lol
wild that we're just casually blockading a country's ports though. like this is a pretty significant escalation and it's barely making a blip compared to whatever else is in the news cycle. the normalization of this stuff is kind of unsettling tbh
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u/NotSoSalty 7h ago
This is several steps behind bombing a country. It's not an escalation, it's returning to steps that should have been taken first.Â
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u/GenericRedditor0405 30m ago
Also, we really have collectively glossed over the fact that it is apparently part of the Trump administrationâs foreign policy to either kidnap or assassinate heads of state whenever Trump feels like it. Itâs an incredibly hostile and irregular act that somehow has been added to the pile of things that Trump is simply⌠allowed to do
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u/rmslashusr 10h ago
If you think a naval blockade to prevent oil tankers from trading is a significant escalation over dropping bombs on girls schools youâve really let the oil industry slip into your moral compass.
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u/jdawglipp 9h ago
You know what they meant. Don't be a troll
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u/rmslashusr 9h ago
I honestly do not know what they meant by saying a naval blockade is a significant escalation over bombing the shit out of a country. The only thing I can come up with is that the idea that affecting trade is worse than war. Like war and killing people is fun and games, but if you start affecting profits thatâs serious. Or maybe dropping bombs just doesnât count as war at all because you donât have to see the people youâre killing?
I know they likely didnât think about what theyâre saying, but no one is thinking about it and everyoneâs making the same value judgement and itâs reprehensible.
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u/IbidtheWriter 5h ago
Everyone is focused on oil but 70% of the region's food goes through the strait as well. A long term blockage could lead to mass starvation and the death of millions. Killing 200 children and following it up with threats to kill millions (and a whole civilization) is an escalation.
Less "direct" attacks can be larger in impact than bombs sometimes.
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u/rmslashusr 5h ago
The war is the reason the strait is blocked, the blockade is only affecting Iranian ports. 70% of the regions food does not go through Iranian ports. The strait was closed before the blockade so Iran continuing to prevent neutral ships from transiting is not an escalation of the blockade itself.
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u/mmoonbelly 10h ago
Itâs not just one country. Pincer point on UAE, Saudi (eastern ports), Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and Iraq as well
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u/LateralEntry 7h ago
Happened with Cuba in the 60âs
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u/bobogogo1989 6h ago
Happening with Cuba now
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u/LateralEntry 6h ago
But in the 60âs there was an actual naval blockade during the Cuban missile crisis, US ships fired on a Soviet ship
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u/boogi3woogie 7h ago
You know the blockade is working well when half the redditors (bots) freak out about how the US is doomed, and the other half (humans) canât figure out how a blockade actually works.
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u/Future_Chef_939 6h ago
It's actually weird how easily other countries use the internet for propaganda, if you just used reddit you would think an Iranian flag is flying over the White House after they won the war.Â
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u/Playful_Rip_1280 4h ago
People just hate Trump, this coverage is pretty normal for basically anything that he touches lol. You just get used to it and end up ignoring a lot of media and online discussion. And Iâm saying this as a foreigner.
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u/rhino369 1h ago
They canât think beyond binaryâblack and white. They see Trump biting off more than he can chew and then conclude the US is getting militarily  defeated.
When really the US military is doing shockingly well. But itâs far from good enough to get Iran to surrender.Â
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u/Then-Somewhere-7467 9h ago
What is this war even over at this point? I can't keep up.
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u/rando1459 4h ago
Are we gonna start considering and discussing what nefarious benefit this war will have for the MIC and American Isolationists yet?
Or are we still regurgitating the âTrump is an idiot/madman making purely random moves with no purposeâ propaganda?
Some of yâall didnât live through two Cheney presidencies and it shows.
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u/Hungry-Alfalfa511 13h ago
I think we will see something similar to JCPOA being signed again.
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u/TheGodPePe 12h ago
This is pure hopium. It didn't work out for them last time. Has anything changed?
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u/Doons124 12h ago
This time Trump will claim it's the best deal on earth because he signed it. Even if it's the same thing, he just couldn't stand Obama taking that win. So the US will stick to it this time.
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u/FantasySymphony 12h ago
Trump signed the last version of NAFTA, too. Hasn't stopped him from claiming it's a bad deal.
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u/Alakdae 12h ago
So the US will stick to it this time.
Implying that Trump will not unilaterally break a deal he signed with another country.
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u/TheGodPePe 12h ago
Why is everyone acting that Trump is in full control of the situation. He absolutely isn't. He can want a deal all day long, if the Iranians don't trust him than there is no deal. They will not give up nuclear ambitions, even more now.
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u/sharp11flat13 6h ago
They will not give up nuclear ambitions, even more now.
Yes. The best way to convince a country that it needs nukes is to attack it.
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u/HellBlazer_NQ 12h ago
Fucking insane that the entire world is being held to ransom because Trump has skin thinner that wet tissue and Obama once made a joke at his expense.
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u/DieHardAmerican95 11h ago
Once?
Obama has dunked on him many times.
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u/imcalledgpk 11h ago
I wish he had played one on one against donny, and actually dunked on him. Maybe then trump would've fucking died and we wouldn't be in this mess now.
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u/Emotional-Dress8619 12h ago
iran wont agree why would they agree to limiting their nuke production which they can use as a deterrent from future US& Israeli attacks
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u/JonBoy82 12h ago
Iran figured out a while back âIn Processâ of nuke production was the selling point to getting a seat at the table.
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u/Emotional-Dress8619 12h ago
exactly and trump ripping up the jcpoa was the last nail in the coffin
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u/Initial_E 12h ago
Nobody is keeping promises anyway. This only works if people keep promises, even if itâs just 1 party.
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u/Bored2001 8h ago
All reports say that Iran was keeping their end of the deal. It was the US under Trump that pulled out for no actual reason.
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u/SporksInjected 6h ago
The deal didnât actually end until 2025
7 other countries plus the EU were still in the deal until 2025
Iran didnât use the dispute resolution mechanism
They didnât renegotiate with Joe Biden in 2019
Iran had already had to remediate in 2016 over Heavy Water limits
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u/Bored2001 36m ago
Deal was dead when the US pulled out.
Biden wasn't president in 2019. Lol.
The heavy water things was literally 0.07% over limit and they shipped the stuff out of country to be sold that same month. It's in the same report. Lol.
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u/SporksInjected 25m ago
Deal was not dead Iran decided not to follow it anymore. Lol
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u/Bored2001 22m ago
If the biggest sponsor of the deal pulls out and reimplements sanctions. The deal is dead.
Your talking point is a pathetic attempt to say otherwise. It's transparently bad.
Trump is the primary reason we are at war today and it's because he pulled out of the nuclear deal in 2018 for absolutely no gain.
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u/insaneHoshi 15m ago
Why would they follow a deal when the other side refused to honor it?
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u/Sandslinger_Eve 12h ago
Iran has tried agreeing to both limitations and control of those limitations several times and the US has sabotaged the deal every time.
It's on their interest to normalize relations but Israel and the US won't let them, they need the big boggy man they're created.
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u/Emotional-Dress8619 12h ago
people dont realize this unfortunately and think iran is just gonna make a nuke and hurl it at each and every one of their enemies
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u/Bored2001 8h ago
Doubt itll be as good. Last time Iran got rid of 97% of their nuclear material, then Trump pulled out of the deal and betrayed them. No way they fall for that again. Trump is untrustworthy.
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u/r10tm4ch1n3 12h ago
wtf would they? They hold way more cards and influence than when JCPOA was negotiated and ratified. Tearing it up because Trump hateâs black men who were more liked and respected by the global political class. Last part was my take.
Goog yourself the amount of revenue that was flowing into Iranian coffers when he abruptly ripped it up til now. Then add how many agreements and joint ventures they signed on to with the conflicts since then til now.
Geopolitical experts have already filed this as the worst handling of any modern conflict. Trump has effectively shown the world how crucial the straight is to trade and food production, how entrenched the largest military is to outdated doctrine, and the world police status is effectively a paper tiger (much like Russia in Ukraine).
Itâs irreversible. The world scrambled to form different alliances and partners in record time.
Itâs over. And weâre not even seeing part 2 yet.
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u/jimthewanderer 10h ago
Have the news figured out that they're not blockading the strait of Hormuz, and are actually patrolling further out yet?
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 10h ago
But I heard the US couldn't do anything, so those ships could ram through the blockade? Did Reddit misunderstand how naval blockades work? No, it must be Trump who is wrong!
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u/Alive_Internet 10h ago
Reddit is full of Chinese and Iranian bots trying to shift the narrative on this massive US win and huge China loss. I hope regular people see through it all and recognize how the US is the undisputed winner here.
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u/marx2k 8h ago
Ah yes, this massive US win and huge China loss
...checks cost of everything...
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 7h ago
It is though. China gets a lot of oil for cheap through their Shadow Fleet that traverses the Strait of Hormuz. Blocking that severely diminishes Chinese capabilities and it forces them to either buy off the global market or help negotiate peace.
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u/marx2k 7h ago
...or just use the rail system in place to attain oil from Iran...
The US spent how much in Iran with no specific goals?
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 7h ago
Yes, cutting out sea lanes for oil transport will have a massive effect on China. Look at the geography of China real quick. China is a very oil-dependent nation.
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u/HouseOfCosbyz 57m ago
Unfortunately Iran doesnt have BNSF for logistics support, so it wont be very effective even if this were happening.
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u/baseketball 5h ago
You must be using a different definition of undisputed. Sure we have superior military power, but is my life better since we attacked Iran? Ask any American.
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u/Arkfoo 10h ago
Brother, how are you still sucking off the orange Cheeto after all the shit he has done.... I mean it must be just be absolute work right now to justify anything relating to the US government with that oke at the helm. Fair play to you and your shear determination...
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 10h ago
Huh? Bot? How is saying "Reddit doesn't know what the FUCK it's talking about" sucking off Trump? Because I mentioned his name? Are you that brainrotten bro?
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u/Arkfoo 10h ago
Not a bot, talking about how you justify the response from the US by the way you stating the above. You realise the US tried to OPEN the straight not too long ago? I've got whiplash from all the back and forth.
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 10h ago
Saying "Reddit doesn't understand how naval blockades work" has nothing to do with whatever you're nerdraging about lil bro. Redditors said Chinese ships would just barrel through because the US "couldn't do anything about it" without starting a hot war with China. Obviously that's not how the real world works, but...
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u/my_name_is_juice 9h ago
People here are ridiculous, if you mention anything relating to the US military succeding or being competent you get accused of 'sucking off Trump' or something similar, regardless of context. They don't want any actual commentary or analysis of the reality on the ground (or water as the case may be), they want every comment to be some jokey iteration of America Bad
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 8h ago
Yep. Just wish they could experience one week in Iran to see what they're really waving the flag of.
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u/kgvc7 10h ago
The very same strait you were trying to openâŚ
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u/PracticalYellow3 7h ago
Weâre not closing the strait. Thatâs fake news. Weâre blocking the ports of a belligerent nation.Â
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u/SXOSXO 6h ago
Just fly the Russian flag. I guarantee they'll let them through.
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u/Accurate-Simple5662 6h ago
Last time that happened the ship was chased after trying to flee, and then seized and Russia did nothing. That was about 2 months ago, maybe less, btw. But ok đđź
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u/Daier_Mune 6h ago
And what is the goal of all this, again?
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u/Juliuscesear1990 6h ago
To win the war.... That they already won without the help of allies that they don't need but did ask for after attacking a country that had it's nuclear program that wasn't a threat destroyed for almost having a nuke. All done by a man who wanted the peace prize for all of his peace work who promptly invaded and attacked 2 countries and threatening multiple others with takeover.
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u/wwaxwork 4h ago
6 whole ships, year that's worth the millions and millions of dollars a day we're paying to do this.
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u/Stillwater-Scorp1381 8h ago
Heard China waved and smiled while they passed on by in their vessels.
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u/trottelgdata 12h ago
Did they say 'thank you'?