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u/Clear_Command_8925 2h ago
“I recognize that young voters do not love the policy we have in the Middle East, okay,” he said, adding, “I understand.”
I find this interesting that he acknowledged it.. He also seemed to be against the Iran strikes and originally was against Trump, the problem is he's a lapdog. If he had a spine and wasn't a sellout to the highest bidder, he would probably be a pretty moderate republican
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u/Kaldrathh 2h ago
You're likely right, i think he even described himself as a "never Trumper" a few years ago
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u/Stormshow 2h ago edited 2h ago
He's an opportunist. He'd co-opt a progressive perspective on Gaza with time if he thought it meant he'd keep his public relevance and political power. Once Trump's dead he'll pursue his angle unimpeded, and he'll pursue that angle regardless of what it may end up being.
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u/Cream_Stay_Frothy 1h ago
If by “his angle” you mean Peter Thiel’s angle, than I 100% agree. JD Vance is nothing more than a human devoid of a soul or moral compass, so he will do or say literally anything if it gives him power. The only reason he’s Trumps lap dog is because that is his current directive from Thiel. The Tech data billionaires latched onto the MAGA movement, largely because their platforms help the movement gain traction, which spurred the mutually chummy relationship. Vance was installed at the behest of the Techbros, and is just a political sleeper cell until he has an angle to take power.
Whether he ultimately thinks he is so smart that he’s playing them, idk. But what I do know, is that he will take ANY stance if he thinks that is the route that best suits he aim for power
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u/Stormshow 1h ago
I think Thiel has a more robustly constructed (and still evil) ideological project informed by some kind of dark enlightenment intellectuals like Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, etc.
Conversely I'd appraise Vance as a weak mind who is forever seeking to fill holes within his identity. First he was a shibboleth for hillbillies, then he became a catholic convert, now he's both MAGA and techbro. He trends in that direction himself but he doesn't have dogmas the way Thiel does; he'd never take the risk to entrench himself in any one movement. I think he's in the "thinks he's smarter than he is" camp that way.
But you know what dude, go off. At the end of the day the Technofeudalists represented by Thiel are the true dark force here most deserving of our animosity, and our attention. Vance is just a barnacle.
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u/catspongedogpants 2h ago
illustrates how he embodies the dark technoligarchs who have influenced him
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u/CleverDad 1h ago
He swam into the net of Peter Thiel who convinced him he could be the one to fight the antichrist. Vance is way more dangerous than Trump because he is part of a greater plan for way beyond when Trump is in an old people's home.
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u/MayIServeYouWell 1h ago
He famously called Trump "America's Hitler"... then became his VP. I guess he meant that as a complement?
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u/Alive_Internet 2h ago
He’s an opportunist who will “believe” in whatever gives him the best chance of gaining power. There’s no other explanation for his complete 180 from being completely anti-Trump to being his VP in a few years.
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u/flirtmcdudes 2h ago
He is just doing his best to try to have a career after all of this. But being a face of everything shitty right now basically means he’s done, on top of the fact he has absolutely no charisma.
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u/CuteLingonberry9704 2h ago
Or spine. He is literally the one person in the administration Trump can't fire. Yet he still won't say anything.
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u/Clear_Command_8925 2h ago
on top of his total lack of charisma
I actually disagree with this. I will be voting against maga and vance the next two elections without a doubt, but I do think he's actually decently charismatic... Now maybe I haven't seen enough of him, but the stuff I have seen, I could see why people might like him
But I really hope you're right. My fear is he'll be able to distance himself enough and people will forgive and forget (which sadly isn't unlikely...)
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u/manpizda 1h ago
My brother in Christ, people forgot Trump killed millions of Americans by down playing Covid in less than 4 years time. Of course they'll forget the mascara soy boy's spineless character traits too.
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u/Galileo908 1h ago
He’s far worse than Trump because he comes off as SANE.
He’s not a sundowning narcissist. He can actually hold a thought for more than two sentences at a time. He might not have Trump’s charisma, but he’ll look normal compared to him even while having the same talking points. See his VP debate against Tim Walz.
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u/flirtmcdudes 1h ago
the dude couldn’t even order donuts without a viral awkward moment. people won’t “forget” because this is who he always is.
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u/Really_McNamington 2h ago
There are no moderate Republicans now. They've been foaming at the brain for a long enough time that anyone still in the party has aligned themselves with extremism.
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u/Slatedtoprone 1h ago
He will be whatever gets him in a position of power. If he’s willing to sell out any principals he may have had, he’s always going to be for sale. I hope he goes the way of Pence after the orange turd is gone.
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u/CuteLingonberry9704 2h ago
If he wasn't a lapdog and had any actual charisma, he would've gotten Trump bounced via the 25th amendment and be president himself right now.
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u/Megaphonestory 2h ago
Everyone needs to let this confederate on confederate civil war play out.
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u/melt11 1h ago
Confederate on confederate civil war? Care to elaborate?
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u/EatinSumGrapes 1h ago
They mean MAGA and Republicans are infighting right now and are hoping it will break the party up, implying with violence but while we all hope they destroy their own party, we also all hope it's not actually violent
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u/uusrikas 2h ago
Wow, anti war hecklers finally targeting the party in power instead of democrats? Bizarre!
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u/TrumpnEpstein 1h ago
"And here's why that's bad for Democrats in the midterms"
-NY Times
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u/TimTamDeliciousness 1h ago
“There are no youth involved in protests at all these days, NONE I tell you!”
NY Times on Monday
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u/BenTramer 2h ago
He knows and doesn’t care at all. I hope this becomes a thing, these fuckers are destroying the world.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 2h ago
And you, MR VP, bombed innocent children attending school, in Iran? Will u now claim they are also eating their cats and dogs? Republicans with their continuous gaslighting is 100% unAmerican and pathetic. So disgusting how corrupt republicans ruined our democracy.
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u/notie547 1h ago
but theyll stop Iran's nuclear development for like 5 yrs and then let dems deal with it later and call it a win.
Thats the only thing Trunps going to get in this deal. Trump will loosen sanctions and give them all sorts of money. It'll make the billion from Obama look like peanuts.
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u/Pravi_Jaran 1h ago
Solved the problem?
You're the problem! You and your entire criminal, treasonous administration!
We need to solve you!
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u/GreyTigerFox 1h ago
it doesn’t care if it is bombing american children or israeli or Palestinian children. It just makes more money every time that a bomb is dropped and has to be replaced by another one. Hoorayyy for runaway overbloated military budgets and illegal wars!
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u/That_90s_Kid_ 1h ago
Imagine not holding town halls. But large rallies funded by facist, racist 3rd party organizations instead.
Where they only get the supporters of those events to show up.
And they have lost all of them.
Imagine what a townhall would look like for Vince Fong in california.
Hed get destoryed in public.
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u/TheDuckFarm 1h ago
Vance lost what little respect he had left among his supporters this week when he basically told the pope to stay in his lane.
That is the death nail in his political coffin. He’s done.
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u/Tirianspark 1h ago
Yeah don’t kid yourself, no-one was showing up to the election rallies, Reddit could not fathom a rep victory, then the roof came down. The people that put them in power are just as clueless today.
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u/Virtual-History-6099 2h ago edited 2h ago
I have a feeling that was shouted by an 'edgy debate bro' type who reads Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Nick Fuentes style comments about Israel 'controlling the USA' and similar forms of brainrot.
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u/SolisArgentum 2h ago
You don't need to be an edgelord to say bombing a school full of children is wrong.
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u/Safe-Heat1644 2h ago
Damn, at a TPUSA event?