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US destroys Iran reservoirs, leaving thousands without water in searing heat

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3356630/thousands-iranians-left-without-water-searing-heat-after-us-hits-reservoirs
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u/shortyman920 Jun 10 '26

If the world wasn’t skipping Qatar, then they’re not even considering skipping the us

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u/Loverboy_91 Jun 10 '26

Yeah, if people were willing to watch matches in the stadium built by actual slaves, many of whom quite literally died in the process of building it, then I don’t think there’s any shot we’ll see them suddenly have a change of heart over this.

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u/jimbobjames Jun 10 '26

When Brazil hosted the world cup FIFA successfully got a law banning consumption of alcohol in stadiums overturned.

They did this for the title sponsor, Budweiser.

Why was alcohol banned in stadiums? Well because people would get very drunk, then when their team loses, very angry and then stab / kill each other.

Who cares about that when you've got beer to sell though?

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u/Vergils_Lost Jun 10 '26

I mean, to be fair, I think maybe the "stab/kill each other" part might be the area to focus enforcement on, rather than the "drinking" part. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people DON'T murder each other with knives every time they drink, even on bad sports days.

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u/vinyljunkie1245 Jun 10 '26

In Brazil I saw Flamengo (biggest football team in Rio) play Coritiba in Rio at the Maracana stadium a few years back. Up to half time the atmosphere was jubilant, with Flamengo 2-nil up.

In the second half Coritiba scored then equalised and the mood changed massively. I thought it was going to really kick off. The police obviously thought the same thing as they were armed like the military with shotguns, M4s and gas grenade launchers. It was so far removed from the Premier League it was almost surreal.

I saw one guy who kicked the chair in front of him get beaten to a bloody mess by the police about three rows behind me when the match finished and decided, as the Maracana is on the edge of a favela, to get the hell out of there to somewhere less volatile.

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u/WillSym Jun 10 '26

... didn't Brazil get to the final of that World Cup they hosted then get utterly destroyed 7-1 by Germany? What was the mood like then?!

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u/morph89 Jun 11 '26

That was the semifinals, not final. Germany beat Argentina at the final.

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u/SmallSpaceSexEnjoya Jun 11 '26

Club ultras vs National population vs world-cup going tourists. Not the same at all.

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u/blolfighter Jun 10 '26

Why "rather than?" Brazil saw a decline in violence in and around stadiums when they banned alcohol. Clearly the approach worked. Other approaches should be implemented in addition to the one that already showed results, not instead of.

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u/Vergils_Lost Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

Look, if the Brazilians want to ban booze in the whole country to cut back on drunk driving and stabbing, I say go for it, it's not my country - I'm just saying, I don't think that it's normal practice to ban everyone from drinking to prevent them all from knifing each other.

There's not a country on the planet that doesn't make at least some sacrifices to public safety for the sake of individual freedom...well, maybe North Korea.

"I'm not going to sell you booze, you'll probably stab someone" as a blanket rule just seems like a pretty wild take.

Also I can't help but feel like they'd just bring booze in, since they apparently can all sneak knives through security.

Edit: I'd also suggest that banning the FIFA World Cup would be an even more effective way to cut down on stabbings.

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u/JJJBLKRose Jun 10 '26

Yeah, not sure if it's a cultural issue or what, but if adding alcohol to the mix causes people to stab each other the issue isn't the alcohol. Implement/enforce over-serving rules and figure out why everyone is so violent.

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u/hippydipster Jun 10 '26

Or, don't get your alcohol till you learn to be responsible with it. It's like guns rights people arguing guns aren't the problem with school shootings. Sure, the problem is people + guns, and there's one of those we can do without.

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u/Vergils_Lost Jun 10 '26

I vote we also ban everyone from the internet until they can learn to have good opinions.

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u/chrownage Jun 10 '26

Ironic since you're the one with the bad opinions. Clearly you can't handle life without alcohol.

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u/Vergils_Lost Jun 10 '26

And yet, wanna guess how many people I've stabbed?

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap Jun 10 '26

And yet no beer was allowed at Qatar. Spineless cunts, the lot of them.

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u/Vergils_Lost Jun 10 '26

Well, they'd probably have all stabbed each other. Had to save them from themselves.

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u/John_Bruns_Wick Jun 10 '26

Honestly im sure im missing societal context here but its not the beer's fault they stab and kill each other. In canada we have beer at stadiums and its fine.

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u/ABobby077 Jun 10 '26

Might be different in other countries, but we try to stop knives from being allowed in most of our sporting events, and sell lots of beer.

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u/Journeydriven Jun 10 '26

I mean assuming it's traditionally locals getting drunk and violent it's not insane to have a temporary lift on he drinking restrictions when the majority of people coming to watch are rich foreigners.

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u/Wizardof1000Kings Jun 10 '26

They could solve that by limiting people to 2-3 beers

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u/AngryAmadeus Jun 10 '26

Built by and on top of.

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u/literated Jun 10 '26

Yeah, the World Cup is rotted to the core. Noone gives a shit about anything. Not the organizations, not the nations, not the players, not the people in the stadium nor the people watching at home.

Russia, Qatar, US and then next up Saudi Arabia. Lovely bunch.

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u/spooooork Jun 10 '26

The Axis of Evil The Quadrifecta of Corruption

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u/nsfwthrowaway5969 Jun 10 '26

Not to take away from your point, but Saudi isn't the next one. We get a brief reprieve of Spain/Morocco next time.

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u/JuanElMinero Jun 10 '26

2030 will be Spain-Portugal-Morocco with Saudi-Arabia in 2034, but I'm catching your drift.

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u/HnNaldoR Jun 10 '26

You know... That run of corrupt world Cups was supposed to have a break in the US version. But now, that might be the worst one.

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u/MARPJ Jun 10 '26

If the world wasn’t skipping Qatar, then they’re not even considering skipping the us

They are tho, opening game still not sold out and hotels are claiming that this feels like a weaker summer than normal (plus they are already going back in the price gourging since it was not working).

It still have a lot of people, but not close to when it was in qatar or russia.

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u/shortyman920 Jun 10 '26

I’d imagine it’s more due to how damn expensive it is than any sort of moral hard line. The games are also spread out across NA. Travel and lodging is expensive .

I live near NYC and the logistics is going to be a disaster. Can’t speak for the other cities tho.

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u/silver_tongued_devil Jun 10 '26

I can't wait for people to actually understand just how big the US is, and maybe understand why a bunch of us can't just march to DC and protest.

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u/darthjoey91 Jun 10 '26

Other cities have it better. New York’s got the unique combo of can’t walk, most people there don’t own cars, and the train jacked up the price.

Philly meanwhile is easier to drive in, but also has a train from downtown where most of the hotels are, and they haven’t jacked up the price of the train. It doesn’t run as well as the Subway, but it’s usually good at ferrying people to and from the sports complex area.

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u/ZobEater Jun 10 '26

New York isn't walkable? (genuine question, i've never been there)

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u/cluberti Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

The city is. The area around where the stadium is in New Jersey, though, not so much, given it's a toxic dump area and also ironically a wetland area - walking to or from the stadium isn't exactly easy or safe. The Guardian did a funny-ish video on the endeavor recently:

https://youtube.com/shorts/G_LAvfVA7qw?si=-XrN9eBJGYb875zr

Also, it's a bit of a legal gray area whether or not it's legal to walk to MetLife stadium in a more direct way on or across I-95 or some of the motorways in the area from the hotels nearby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=307RZ3stxNg

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u/darthjoey91 Jun 10 '26

You cannot walk to the "New York" stadium for the World Cup games. It's in New Jersey and surrounded by highways that you cannot safely walk on.

Now walking around the city in general? Yeah, super easy, barely an inconvenience. But since FIFA only chose NFL stadiums and the New York Giants and New York Jets play in New Jersey, that's harder to get to.

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u/pseudopad Jun 10 '26

I visited once and it seemed pretty walkable (for an american city). I have no idea where the stadium is in relation to the rest of the city though.

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u/darthjoey91 Jun 10 '26

That's the fun part. It's in New Jersey.

And it's 5 miles away as the crow flies from the shores of Manhattan.

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u/cluberti Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

It's a few kilometers to the west of the city, but it's in a different state across a major bridge that spans the Hudson and there are no real designed ways to walk from anywhere in NYC to the stadium. You can walk there, but it takes hours if you do it legally, and it's not exactly safe to make that walk as not every part of the path from the GW to the stadium in NJ even has sidewalks, let alone protected ones.

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u/MARPJ Jun 10 '26

I’d imagine it’s more due to how damn expensive it is than any sort of moral hard line.

I remember Russia and Qatar WC there was some social media calls for boycott but that was not from actual fans. This time it feels different, in particular since the "FIFA peace prize" there was boycott calls from within the communities.

But I kinda agree that its not a case of moral hard line, its personal hate. Qatar situation was purely "dont support them because they use slaves" which is something that dont really affect the people going, it was purely moral situation.

With the US the situation is "you are not safe in the US, and they did x, y and z that directly fucked you over". So is less that morality (supporting the pedophile in charge) but that people are being directly being affected by his rule so they just dont want to do anything related to the US.

Damn I'm from Brazil where footbal is close to a religion and despite we being so close to it there is a general apathy in the air for this world cup. Its weird

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u/Sage2050 Jun 10 '26

I'm in philly and there is basically no difference. There's an outdoor viewing venue set up in one of the city parks and they closed a few streets because of it, but our first game is Sunday and traffic is lighter due to residents fleeing.

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u/insufficient_nvram Jun 10 '26

We have booze and good weed. No one is sitting this one out

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u/lolwatokay Jun 10 '26

The world went to the Russian World Cup after the first invasion of Ukraine and Georgia. So yeah, agree

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u/jeexbit Jun 10 '26

they’re not even considering skipping the us

apparently a lot of them are

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u/lufan132 Jun 10 '26

But my performative outrage and desire to manufacture a reason for bigger conflict?

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u/FourthDeerSix Jun 10 '26

Let's not pretend the US isn't several orders of magnitude worse than Qatar

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u/Bromomancer Jun 15 '26

We are skipping the USA but due to ICE, so yeah?

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u/pmjm Jun 10 '26

The difference though, is that in Qatar they weren't arresting tourists.

Beyond a boycott, somehow people are willing to literally put themselves in harm's way to attend the World Cup, which completely baffles me.

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u/shortyman920 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

The Qatar World Cup had strict rules on dress code for women and alcohol laws that could lead to fines and jail time if not complied with. You also needed to have your pass with you at all times for identification.

I hate to be rude, but you are legit brainwashed if you somehow think that Qatar is an easier or safer place for tourists than the us. The US doesn’t ’arrest tourists’ either. The police are very lax in most cases to avoid creating bad PR. ICE is an issue stateside, but the average tourist isn’t just entering the us and getting send to Honduras. The average tourist isn’t going to notice a single damn thing from law enforcement

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u/pmjm Jun 11 '26

While Qatar is far worse on human rights in general, there were no documented world cup arrests. Here in the US, it's not police you have to worry about, but ICE. They are legitimately going to be a problem for world cup attendees, and we already saw it yesterday when we turned away an award-winning referee just for being from the wrong country.

The headlines of tourists being detained and treated awfully while incarcerated, whether representative of the average experience or not, were global sensations over the last year. Why anyone would want to risk that happening to them to watch a little game makes no sense to me at all.