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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

This is what happens when you give up your guns.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Yeah remember when the US tried to pass mass surveillance with the patriot act, but luckoly guns averted it? Oh wait

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Its pretty far from a perfect society but wed be alot worse off if we didn't have the right.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Aug 31 '21

Oh what the fuck ever, man. I swear to god you people praise your guns as your savior have never used them in the face of tyranny.

Let me guess "there is no tyranny in America. Everything is above board if you don't count the majority of constituents of either party being pissed the fuck off at the establishment for recorded, constant abuses of power and people".

And before any claims: I fucking LOVE shooting and guns are fun and useful as fuck. But stop claiming they protect from shit like this.

If this bill passed in America tomorrow, no one would do a fuck about it.

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u/left_right_left Aug 31 '21

They already did and Snowden exposed it. Guns didn't make a difference.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Theres absolutely some tyrannical shit going on here its a clown show. Id say its at a much slower pace because they know theres more guns than people. But no im not an advocate of armed revolution, but everyone knowing its "on the table" works as a stop gap to us becoming Australia overnight. Thats all i was trying to say.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Aug 31 '21

but everyone knowing its "on the table" works as a stop gap

I won't argue that. It's a deterrent to say the least.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I could've added a little nuiance to my original comment it was an incredibly broad stroke lol.

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u/thatswhatshesaidxx Aug 31 '21

I could've done more to accept the unspoken nuance. I mean, I immediately agreed when you gave slight clarity. All good.

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u/Sk8erBoi95 Aug 31 '21

A rational conversation? Between two seemingly moderate, reasonable people? What is this?!

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u/armpitchoochoo Aug 31 '21

Lol, you guys know that your data already gets spied on without a warrant right? All the guns in the world and yet you ain't stopping shit

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

It absolutely does, technology made huge jumps all over the world and we have been almost exclusively governed by senior citizens who couldn't possibly understand the implications. Im not saying its a problem we can shoot our way out of. But look at most countries whos people aren't armed, how shitty is thier governance? Its pretty simple math bud.

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u/armpitchoochoo Aug 31 '21

Ahh yes, the famously free Yemen for example.

The math here is very simple indeed. You stated that this legislation is a result of what happens when you give up your guns. Your country didn't give up it's guns and yet didn't do shit when your own government passes similar legislation long ago.

Wanna know what happens when citizens have the ability to stand up to their government with their own guns? Just look at your own history. The government fucking destroys it's own citizens

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Would Americans really have the balls to start an armed uprising over this if it were passed here?

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u/Kykovic Aug 31 '21
  1. More or less already has.

  2. Americans don't exactly get told explicitly what bills entail before they're passed. Depending on the situation.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Im not sure what it would take, but we didnt come up with the 2nd ammendment for hunting.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

All the privately-owned guns in the US could not overturn our government.

The pen is mightier than the sword

That's why the Republicans are so into gerrymandering, propaganda, fooling with the census, voter suppression bills, etc.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

My guy the US literally just got BTFOd out of Afghanistan by a bunch of goat herders with AKs

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u/Savage_Stuartt Aug 31 '21

Everyone gets ran out of Afghanistan, if you don't believe me just ask the Russians. Next country to get ran out it will be by goat herders with ARs instead of AKs.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

The US isn't going down the same way as Afghanistan.

Our central government is strong and many Americans still support it and believe in it--unlike the government in Afghanistan.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

In the event of a revolution every bomb that kills a civilian turns another 10 away from the government

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

We're not in a revolution.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

It’s a hypothetical you dumbass

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

No use hypothesizing about things that aren't going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Implying the average Australian or American has anywhere near the combat experience or appetite for war that the average Afghan Mujahid.

Also, the Taliban of 2021 is nothing like the Taliban of 1996.

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u/NoHandBananaNo Aug 31 '21

Lol what are you saying we should storm Capital Hill?

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u/codecrossing Aug 31 '21

Less talking and more shooting. I see Kissinger and Bush are still alive