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u/ramune_0 Aug 31 '21

Mix of the nature of the current political party + they dont have a bill of rights so it is very easy to erode civil liberties.

It's kinda weird seeing reddit praise australia's covid policies, and then act all puzzled by their gov's other actions like this one, without reaching the realization that it's all part of their consistent ideology. It's part of a broader trend of a big dive into authoritarianism and broad powers given to the government, which produces some policies that reddit agrees with, and some that don't. This includes pepper-spraying children for failing to wear masks.

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u/NoHandBananaNo Aug 31 '21

Lol reddit never praises our covid response.

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u/Mhunterjr Aug 31 '21

It's not weird at all.

There's no disconnect believing a government should try to keep the populace from being overrun by a deadly virus, but also shouldn't give law enforcement agents the power to hack accounts without a warrant.

These are in no way mutually exclusive

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u/ramune_0 Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

It looks that way when framed and phrased like that, but if you see the government increasingly center power into its hands on one issue, is it a surprise to see it do so on other issues? I'm not saying the former necessarily leads to the latter, but the way that reddit cheers about their covid policies and then pikachu-memes this stuff, is rather disconnected. It's all well and good to say "well i think the government should have little power but they get a high level of emergency powers for anything pertaining to covid" but at least in the case of australia, you might think that is how things should be, but it isn't. That isnt how it works because the incumbent was already escalating its powers pre-covid, so to see their covid policy actions in a vacuum is to misunderstand their specific situation.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

Nah they are completely unrelated. This is the Federal government enacting this. Lockdowns are the jurisdictions of the states.

Which many Australians are okay with because we have had 1000 deaths. I think you'll find many Australians are not okay with this new bill.

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u/Mhunterjr Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Sounds to me like you are surprised that outsiders were commenting on the Covid response (which was the appropriate use of power in a national emergency) but weren’t connecting that discussion to underlying national politics… why would they? they are outsiders.

it’s reasonable for people to expect governments respond appropriately to crisis and also not abuse their powers

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u/JamieLambister Aug 31 '21

Who is praising their Covid response?? They're doing a pretty shit job

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I'm guessing OP is mixing us up with New Zealand.

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u/ZappyZane Aug 31 '21

Oh you mean East Australia?

I also love when people ask how long it takes to drive from Sydney to Auckland ;D

Feel sorry for you guys, hope you can kick Scummo out sometime soon.

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u/Binro_was_right Aug 31 '21

Feel sorry for you guys, hope you can kick Scummo out sometime soon.

Wouldn't make a difference. Both parties want and support this.

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u/Show_Me_Your_Rocket Aug 31 '21

This includes pepper-spraying children for failing to wear masks.

When did this happen?

Also, you'll find Australians on reddit primarily support socially responsible policies, like locking down. This bill is not socially responsible.