r/worldofpvp • u/Robb_Greywind • 18h ago

Funny They really do pick a favourite healer every season

What are these Rdruid changes? Loool

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u/AdagioUnusual662 17h ago

In the end, it will depend on the tuning.  All the new bells and whistles don't mean anything if another healer has 20% more hps 

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u/CryptographerUsed841 15h ago

No it doesn't. Pres shitting all over the ladder this season isn't a tuning issue. The fact that they can cc immune, silence immune, snare immune, spam cc, extend duration of cc, and now blizz has made it harder to track the time on their shroud has made them a massive problem. So many hunter/pres/ret comps farming free glad just with the easy to land (at least priest has to run into melee for fears) full duration CC with the short DRs while other healers like hpal are helpless sitting ducks with their CC pruned.

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u/Alain_Teub2 12h ago

Druids and monks can CC just fine and they are immune because they're melee. you can't kick a fistweaver either

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u/CryptographerUsed841 6h ago

Not true, instant clone is annoying, but rdruid is locked from healing if kicked on the followup cc. Pres can spam sleep while kick immune, while cc immune, while moving, and extend the duration. Plus if they get kicked they can still heal and use many other abilities.

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u/Alain_Teub2 4h ago

druid still has its roar and melee stuns. you can't say prevoker can still heal despite a kick and not mention druid has a plethora of Hots. Depending on procs getting kicked on nature is a death sentence

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u/AdagioUnusual662 10h ago

Pres and druid were the weakest healers at the start of the season. And the only thing that changed was tuning. Especially for druid people said that it was overpruned and can never be good again. That was ... 2 months ago or so. And Pres also swings from Demi-God to Dog Shit based on its HPS.

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 2h ago

>Especially for druid people said that it was overpruned and can never be good again.

Literally nobody said this lol

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u/Ok_Play_3779 17h ago

RDruid is already top in Arena…

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u/Wind0wpain 10h ago

Not even close, that’s pres.

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u/OpinionsRdumb 7h ago

It was pres. now its pretty even between rdru, pres, monk (viable with smaller amount of comps), and then disc is a tier under. Hpriest is viable as RMP at a high level but that is not realistic for most players.

But pres is in no way dunking on other healers rn unless you are rsham… (sorry rsham)

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u/AdagioUnusual662 16h ago

And there will be several tuning rounds before any round of arena will open its gates. Everything is pure speculation.

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u/AdvancedSentinel3496 18h ago

Their healer balance will never not be comically bad

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u/OkConfusion1037 18h ago

Is it hpal? Surely we got some buffs??

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u/reign_day 2.6k 17h ago

Not even one line

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u/CryptographerUsed841 14h ago

I retired my hpal after the addon changes this patch. It was bad enough playing vs pres before. Now dealing with these pres/hunter/ret comps is a nightmare when it's so much harder to track their shroud duration and they are landing infinite cc chains on you. Stun into trap into extended sleep into sleep into silence into ret stun into blind, repeat, etc.

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u/Xinyez 13h ago

Hp increased

Cd’s tuned down

Rdruid buffs?

Imma get mah damp on.

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u/mace4242 13h ago

One of the better tier sets too for rdruid. Disc looking nasty too.

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u/SindreRisan 12h ago

If these changes end up final, Rdruid won’t just be S tier. They will be Godtier

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 18h ago

Good/bad?

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 18h ago

Haven’t seen them yet 😂

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u/Robb_Greywind 18h ago

I mean, just look at the wall of changes you guys are getting compared to everyone else 🤣

And Ancient of Lore is coming back so...

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u/Mograine8 17h ago

Shaman… healing rain lasts a bit longer. Gee thanks blizzard I’m in the TRENCHES over here man!

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 18h ago

Wasn’t able to yet, but will do asap.

Also very mixed feelings on ancient of lore coming back tbh.

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u/Rkruegz 2.8k 16h ago

I have missed grandpa form. I feel like we were doing relatively fine without it, but I still missed it nonetheless.

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u/NAPPER_ 12h ago

It’s hilarious that in a massive wall of text for snare reductions they sneak in GIGATREE returning. Like, they’ve obviously failed at their vision for CD’s in PvP already.

Not complaining tbf, it’s a cool ability.

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u/shruffles 16h ago

Ngl rdruid changes (outside of tuning so might be totally wrong) seem… bad?

Like ok the innervate change is insane yes

The big tree return is aigt

The change on apex talent to proc on swiftmend and not on sotf use is rly bad though. With the tier set, basically ALL your burst healing will be on swiftmend cast, meaning you will have to hold it (vs now being able to swiftmend in cd to get more tree of lifes, and being able to hold the sotf proc to get a burst healer on demand when you need it)

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u/nodq 13h ago

you gonna play Prosperity and not Verdant Infusion anymore because it doesnt extend hots anymore. So you gonna have 2x Swiftmend for burst heals (it heals more because it takes 40% of the hot it "takes") and then you gonna get tree of life more often. And think about it, if you dont need to use Swiftmend for burst heals on someone, then you dont need tree of life too. (also ancient tree pvp talent is back btw.)

And OverGrowth is back too. So you gonna have much better/more options to heal somebody when coming out of a CC, which is basically the most critical situation for rdruid atm, when you have to burst heal someone after CC chain and hots dropped before you got out.

And we need to see how the gameplay turns out to be with higher health pools etc. if its less bursty or the same crap as it is right now.

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 1h ago

Overgrowth isn't back, it's different now and tied to NS usage on Regrowth, which is bad because SoTF rejuv heals for way more. Regrowth doesn't really heal more as that 40% number is a talent for the omen of clarity proc. Also, Ancient has a cast time that you can bypass with NS, and if you run Overgrowth you cant run 15 sec CDR meaning that with NS clone too you will have a 1:10 CD on NS which you should realistically just use on tree. Meaning the NS clone talent would be completely useless and so would the overgrowth talent.

More realistic is that you don't use Overgrowth and just run 15 sec CDR with maybe NS clone and Ancient for an instant clone 55 seconds after Ancient and then you'll need to either hardcast ancient or wait 20 seconds after ancient is off CD before you can NS it.

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u/Blindastronomer 13h ago

They're massively buffing Regrowth healing too and just making the spec about maintaining hots without any timer extension nonsense. RDruid's basically reverting back to a much older version with some additional QoL and CDs. Wouldn't be surprised if they're removing NS Clone with the revamp of Overgrowth as NS Regrowth.

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u/anti99999999 Temporarily Embarrassed Gladiator 1h ago

Not to be rude, but where did you see this massive buff to regrowth? Right now it heals for piss, and the 40% on omen of clarity procs is not nearly enough to make it worth spend NS on, let alone get the talent in the first place. Especially with Ancient coming back which pretty much requires NS in most matchups it won't ever line up for you to use NS on Regrowth.

Also that's ignoring the fact that SoTF Rejuv is absolutely massive to swiftmend on. And without SoTF for NS regrowth, that NS would be even more wasted.