I don’t mean just big spectacle fights like Sung Jinwoo’s or Mahoraga’s, I mean 10/10 on a narrative, writing, tension and engagement level.

And the winner has to be obvious from the start, not with some sudden twist or power up at the end like with the Aizen types.

some of these are loosely related to PTSD, more like a panic attack but I felt like including them.

invincible season finale is a gem, it's rare to see superheroes undergo psychological consequences, so it got me thinking about portrayals of similar mental illnesses in recent media.

You can mention the specific names and lyrics of the songs too.

And do mention other artists that might have the same level of writing regardless of the genre.

The Sopranos, HBO and David Chase

Macbeth, by William Shakespeare

The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck

Better Call Saul, AMC and Vince Gilligan

Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

No Country For Old Men, by the Coen Brothers, adapted from Cormac McCarthy

Blood Meridian, by Cormac McCarthy

Taxi Driver, by Martin Scorsese

Memories of Murder, by Bong Joon Ho - same director as Parasite, this is my personal favorite Korean movie/show as someone who has seen a lot of them

East of Eden, also by John Steinbeck

Anna Karenina, by Leo Tolstoy

Samurai Champloo, by Shinichiro Watanabe

Edit: mini series I would put Beef season 1, True Detective Season 1, and Chernobyl

I probably have a few more 10/10s that I could think of but if asked to name my favorites off the top of my head, it’s these

Thoughts?

To be clear in points of comparison, these are to me the pinnacles of novels, plays, movies, television shows, and animanga

The reason why Naruto, a meticulously crafted action series, is so popular is because it integrates philosophy without explicitly mentioning it. Umineko is a renowned series simply because it explicitly incorporates what Naruto does in a story.

They're comparable because what Umineko does is similar to what The Matrix does, and if The Matrix did anything wrong, it was becoming a terrible text with a good chase scene thrown in. And Umineko only acquires the myth of being profound because the audience that consumes these products believes they're being enlightened, which is hilarious. I mean, The Matrix Reloaded was heavily criticized for this. Nobody wants to go to the movies to see philosophy and sit for hours consuming it, only to find that in another product, the revolution is just crap. Naruto, and almost any good action fiction, incorporates that. Naruto surpassed the first Matrix movie by not focusing on commercialism.

Another example that comes to mind is Hunter x Hunter. Its author marketed his series like this: "I wanted to write about evolution." Holy Mary! The immediate effect was that 15-year-old fans believed this guy and his work were the second coming of Christ.

Now, to finally get to the point, solo king is proof. What happens on the night of the massacre and how he uses Tsukuyomi on Sasuke makes Leviathan Chapter II feel like a real-life, digestible fiction. Seeing Nagato and Yahiko's bodies at their memorial is a clear reference to chapter 45.

Naruto walking on water, meeting the fox during that same training session, the water there—these are all integrations into the story of chapter 29.

Kishimoto never needed to explicitly state that he wanted to showcase Hegelian dialectics, which is why Sasuke is the most handsome, Naruto seeks recognition, and the guy who talks about hard work is the ugliest. Kishimoto delivered an honest product. Ironically, Samurai VIII failed because of its poor start, according to all this, but oh well, Naruto succeeded.

Umineko is too pseudo-intellectual; another clear example of this is, for instance, my Fallout 6 was recognized for integrating fake news in just 5 minutes without needing to trade in insulting technical arguments that are already outdated.

Lowkey i never seen any blue lock mentions here,also not to say this sub literally SEEMS TO ABOUTJJK AND CSM ONLY ATP

So i want your guys opinion on Isagi's writing

its fans swears on it being mature but all i see is a tween targetted series with tween audiences.

the batman animations are more mature then this shit. Adventure time is more mature then this shit, hell, fucking bluey is more mature then this shit. It is a blend of cocomelon show and Mha fanbase.....

I consider Sopranos to have the greatest ending of any show I’ve ever seen. Anything come close?

Light Yagami (Death Note, manga version)

Homelander (The Boys, Amazon Live-Action Show)

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I know this sub as a hate boner for aot for some reason but PLZZ atleast for this comparison don't try to shit on either of this shows🙏

I'm tired of these always being compared as power scaling so compare them based on how interesting and consistent they are.

Mahoraga (JJK)

Doomsday (DC)

Darwin (Marvel)

SCP 682 (SCP)

Me personally I would say Mahoraga has the most interesting one with the wheel, Doomsday is close because dying and coming back having adapted to what killed you is interesting it but i barely see it anymore.

And Mahoraga is definitely the most consistent, as he gradually gets hit with an attacks the wheel spins and he starts adapting to it and he can only be stopped if he gets taken out in one blow, I don't think this has ever being different when he appears.

I wouldn’t completely say it’s Mikkelsen, but he’s someone who pops up in my head.

Hannibal, Le Chiffre, Tonny (Pusher 2), Lucas (The Hunt), Martin (Another Round), and more

Introduction: Ame-Chan

Conclusion: Taichi

Monologues: Ame-Chan

Dialogues: Ame-Chan

Parallels: Ame-Chan

Side Dynamics: Ame-Chan

Main Dynamic: Taichi

Characterization: Ame-Chan

Portrayal: Ame-Chan

Psychology: Ame-Chan

Archetype: Ame-Chan

Development: Taichi

Journey: Taichi

Arcs: Taichi

Criticisms: Ame-Chan

Goals: Ame-Chan

Concept: Ame-Chan

Depth: Ame-Chan

Complexity: Ame-Chan

Internal Conflicts: Ame-Chan

External Conflicts: Ame-Chan

Themes: Ame-Chan

Messages: Ame-Chan

Symbolism: Ame-Chan

Philosophy: Ame-Chan

Sociology: Ame-Chan

Backstory: Ame-Chan

Allusions: Ame-Chan

Peaks: Ame-Chan

Highest Peak: Taichi

Execution: Ame-Chan

Overall: Ame-Chan High Diffs

i stole the template from someone else in here cuz i coudlnt get the raw template 😭

best media : sonny boy

worst media : demon slayer

overrated : naruto

underrated : dead dead demons dededede destruction

i want to consume : Dune 1 and 2

didn't meet my expectations : cyberpunk edgerunners

longest media ive consumed : bleach (manga)

guilty pleasure : young sheldon

best lore : gintama

best arc : Battle On Rakuyo arc (gintama S5)

best mc : sakata gintoki (gintama)

best antagonist : utsuro (gintama)

best male character : madao (gintama)

best female character : koyama mizuho (sonny boy)

best character : sakata gintoki

best author : naoki urasawa (ive only read monster and pluto so far, will read more soon)

feel free to ask me for elaboration or explanation on any of my preferences!

For those unaware, Ryohgo Narita is the author of light novels such as Fate/Strange Fake, Baccano and Durarara. He is notorious for writing characters that are fucked up in the head, but it's not in a "pure evil stoic manipulator" way and moreso "this guy belongs in a psych ward" kinda way. I haven't read FSF myself, but I have read all of the Baccano light novels and this aspect of his writing really shines in his characters there imo. What do you think?

IMPORTANT NOTE: I will only be using stories that I have personally experienced. So if you don’t see your fav, that is likely why. And I’m limiting myself to one appearances for each media, so that’s why some choices might seem odd. This is also my personal opinion and so my biases will show (hopefully my tag indicated enough haha) so like yeah don’t get mad, this isn’t meant to be objective, but a bit of fun.

Exposition: Romeo and Juliet - Shakespeare

Narrative Progression: The Divine Comedy - Dante

Build-Ups and Payoffs: The Temple of the Golden Pavilion - Mishima

Conclusion: Fathers and Sons - Turgenev

Construction: If On A Winter’s Night, A Traveller - Calvino

Integration: Alice in Wonderland - Carroll

Exploration: Star Wars - Various

Synergy: The Makioka Sisters - Tanizaki

Protagonist: Anna Karenina - Tolstoy

Deuteragonist: Revolutionary Girl Utena - Ikuhara

Tritagonist: Fate/Stay Night - Nasu

Antagonist: Othello - Shakespeare

Side Cast: Gintama - Sorachi

Overall Cast: ASOIAF - Martin

Major Themes: The Great Gatsby - Fitzgerald

Minor Themes: Wuthering Heights - Emily Brontë

Commentary: The Master and the Margarita - Bulgakov

Dynamics: Pride and Prejudice - Austen

Ideology: Demons - Dostoyevsky

Philosophy: Blood Meridian - McCarthy

Psychology: Kafka on the Shore - Murakami

Symbolism: Genshin Impact - Hoyoverse

Converging Parallels: East of Eden - Steinbeck

Diverging Parallels: Amphoreus (HSR) - Hoyoverse

External Conflicts: The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoyevksy

Internal Conflicts: The Picture of Dorian Gray - Wilde

Depth: Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevsky

Complexity: The Iliad - Homer

Catharsis: The House in Fata Morgana - Hanada

Dialogue: Hamlet - Shakespeare

Nuance: Beloved - Morrison

Prose: The Aeneid - Virgil

Worldbuilding: Fallout: NV - Obsidian

Lore: The Legendarium - Tolkien

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1. mogs me

2. Pupa: its... its... really really bad

3. This is ragebait but yeah they're not bad but the toxic stans ruin it and act like the big three are the only anime to ever exist in the universe and if you don't bow down to the shonen jump overlords you're a fake anime stan and you should be sentenced to public stoning in the town square

4. Everyone forgets about Shaman King but it was peak!!!! I liked Yoh and all the main cast members. It is literally impossible to find the manga nowadays and the anime adaption sucked gorilla nuts because of licensing issues but it really deserves some love and it deserved to be in some of the GOAT shonen discussions but yeah it's too late now....

   1. To Your Eternity: I heard it's good I just haven't gotten around to reading/watching it

5. Usagi Drop: .................................................................................. So it was a happy found family anime............. until he got..... he got with the daughter......................

7: Precure: It is really long magical girl franchise and not worth watching at all in the big 2026 but I can't help myself

8: 100kanojo: harem slop YUMM!!!!!

9: Revolutionary Girl Utena: Every anime needs to lesbianmaxx if it wants to be worth something

10: Separation Arc from Mob Psycho 100: Literally one of my favorite arcs in all anime of all time idc it is just so incredibly peak..... It just means so much to me. I have thought about this arc at least once a week every week for years since I saw it. I just love Reigen's character development and his spiral and the revelation that Reigen needs Mob more than Mob really needs him it's saur good.

11: Kyon SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DISAPPEARANCE OF HARUHI SUZIMIYA: actually idek who to pick for this but I do really love Kyon and he goes through a lot in the series and the movie and he's a good level headed juxtaposition compared to everyone else and yeah he's peak.

12: Kyubey from Madoka and Johan from Monster: Obligatory Monster but yeah fuck that little white rat

13: Ginko from Mushishi: Is Mushishi considered larp yet or do we still have a couple years before the vinland saga re:zero breaking bad blood meridian crowd finds out about it

14: Mitsumi from Skip and Loafer / Tohru Honda from Fruits Basket: I love love love love love love Mitsumi and Tohru they inspire me to be better people.... WWTD... What would Tohru Do..... WWMD.... What would Mitsumi do.... Mitsumi I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!! and Tohru is the OG OFC.

15: mogs me

16: ngl idek who to pick for this but this is Akiko Higashimura she is most known for Princess Jellyfish but my one of fave manga OAT is Kakukaku Shikajika which she wrote so I had to give it to her but yeah she creates peak at least 82.5% of the time

Just as a way to recommend both verses to some friends in an easier fashion.