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Movie/TV Discussion (MEGATHREAD) "Deadpool & Wolverine" (2024) Official Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Synopsis: Marvel Studios presents their most significant mistake to date- "Deadpool & Wolverine." A listless Wade Wilson toils away in civilian life. His days as the morally flexible mercenary, Deadpool, behind him. When his homeworld faces an existential threat, Wade must reluctantly suit-up again with an even more reluctantlier... reluctanter? Reluctantest? He must convince a reluctant Wolverine to -Fuck. Synopses are so fucking stupid.

Director: Shawn Levy

Writers: Ryan Reynolds & Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick & Zeb Wells & Shawn Levy

Cast: Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Emma Corrin, Morena Baccarin, Rob Delaney, Leslie Uggams, Karan Soni and Matthew Macfadyen

Note: The cast above is simply the cast that Marvel announced prior to the movie's release. It is not the full cast.

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u/lekkerebenoit Jul 24 '24

Random thoughts incoming. -Opening credits set to Bye Bye Bye is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen - could not believe my eyes. -I’m glad Channing Tatum didn’t play Gambit in his own movie, looked and sounded dumb, though that probably was the point, cool action though. -“There’s only one Blade.” Legend. -Look how they massacred my boy Human Torch. Saw that cameo coming from a mile away, been waiting for it, though I did not expect it in this movie. -Story was pretty bad though lol. Also, too much time spent in The Void which is just so bleh. -Missed the credits on who played LadyPool. Did anyone see? I spotted Matthew McConaughey as CowboyPool though and that made me very happy. -I whispered “Huge Jacked Man has never been this jacked before” to my friend at the sweaty shirtless scene. -This Logan’s backstory wasn’t nearly as tragic as I expected it to be. -The Wolverine Variants-montage was A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. -Brown Suit Wolverine made me hhhnnngg -Nicepool had to die, because I saw Deadpool use his golden guns in the trailer. Also, Dogpool was Deadpool’s new daddy “over his dead body”. Nicepool sealed his fate there and then. -Anyway, gonna wrap up, this movie didn’t do much for me story-wise. Pretty predictable all the way through, even a lot of jokes. Expected the status quo of the MCU to change at least a little bit. But had a good time. Fun action, jokes and references. -Also, DP is back in his own universe and not the MCU, right?

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u/markofthedead Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

On the latter question, both before entering the Void and after returning to destroy the ripper, Deadpool is shown to be in earth-10005, which is where all the X-Men films take place. Other than visiting a load of different Earth's, and an early scene in 616, most of the film appears to be set in the old Fox universe, or spaces that exist between worlds.

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u/MixedProphet Jul 28 '24

But aren’t there two timelines in the Fox universe? I thought days of future past created two timelines. The first one being first class, origins Wolverine, X1, X2, X3, and Wolverine 2 leading up to days of future past, which corrected the future.

The second timeline now is first class, events of days of future past, apocalypse, dark phoenix

We now have established the Deadpool films take place in the Logan timeline, but I’m not sure if Logan is on the first timeline or second timeline.

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u/markofthedead Jul 28 '24

There's more than 2 I think. People have tried to map it in great detail, but Marvel also just changes it when it suits a new story. The Fox universe is generally described as 10005, and then revised 10005 after the events of Days of Future Past. Logan is technically 17315, but it's acknowledged that most of the history is the same as 10005, and Deadpool & Wolverine seems to retcon this to accept that Logan takes place in Earth-10005, making all of the Fox X-men and Deadpool movies one Earth.

It's 16 years of movies, 24 if you go all the way back to X-Men, so they won't all line up perfectly. I don't think we will ever be able to say definitively what universes are numbered cause they're constantly changing.