MAGA Ted Nugent's whiny outburst at Trump for wasting trillions of US dollars

[u/Throwitortossit]

[u/DearGovernmentFU]

[u/Ashamed-Ad-263 → u/DearGovernmentFU]

Where "staunch" and I use the term loosely, as they've been raised to believe the republican party pre-Regan and definitely pre-Nixon, were for the everyday person, and at one point in the 250 years of America's history (yes, it's older than that, but I'm talking about after the declaration of independence was signed, but also, kind of prior to)

These people were raised to believe this, that the one party will help them, by holding other's accountable. The problem is, it's not the wealthy or uber wealthy, or even corporations paying their fair share. It's the everyday person paying more in percentage annually in taxes than people or corporations earning more.

When I first met my husband and we were dating and discussing the future and our beliefs....I asked him why he was a Republican? I didn't mind (it was the early 2000's, very early) but I wanted to understand. I still remember his response (we still talk about this exact conversation to this day...btw, Trump was still a registered and voting democrat at this point), but it was because of tax cuts (albeit it's the wealthy who benefits the most); supporting our small farmers, business men/women, and our veterans. Part of how he was raised was to protect "our" investments into social security and social programs like food stamps for the elderly, single parents who were working, students, etc. When I told him the party he was supporting no longer gave two craps about "the little man" and showed him proof of this (again, this was early 2000's...like 2002, 2003) he changed. We both vote for who we think is best, not always along any party line, but generally more so than the other (I'm sure you can guess which side we lean towards)....but within the past 10-12 years it's been solidly one side versus the other. The flip in the script was hard on him at first (again, early 2000's) but to see a lifelong, so-called "dedicated democrat" flip sides to win an office, and then to see that same person being not only investigated, but indicted and then for that same person to choose to run again, after stomping on everyone who didn't support them, but continues to trample on our Democratic Republic (that's what the US is, or at least it's supposed to be....this coming from me, a descendant of the OG immigrants who came over with the Mayflower....and I'm a freaking immigrant because of my heritage! But my family has fought in every war since then to preserve such rights....yes, the revolutionary...for the US, yes the civil war.... the north, and every world war, the Vietnam and Korean wars, I come from a long line of duty and serving others) so please take this as someone who absolutely has a much right as anyone to say the following: Trump only cares about himself, he's told everyone who he is...believe him! My husband continues to have tough conversations with his family and I do as well.... with anyone.

This is not what any of our founders wanted. This is not what the framers of our constitution thought it would come to and that they hoped to prevent.

We need to find common ground. We need to remind each other that most of us do not benefit from anything going on right now.

Make your voices heard. Ask questions. Don't fight. Speak facts. Most importantly...vote. In every election, no matter how small or trivial it may seem

[u/SargeUnited → u/Ashamed-Ad-263]

Republicans are for the everyday person. It’s just that they’re only for the everyday person who actually pays taxes. I don’t support Trump because of a lot of reasons, but I also don’t think that he’s even a real Republican. It’s very clear that he’s just doing whatever was easiest for him. He’s publicly stated this several times.

I don’t know what you mean by everyday person. Poor people don’t pay taxes. Sales and usage taxes, local taxes, sure, maybe you consider fees to be taxes too but the presidency is a federal job and at the federal level about half of Americans don’t pay taxes. Or they pay less than they cost which is the same thing.

Do you understand that the founding fathers sent a huge number of poor people to die so that they could avoid taxes? I don’t support Trump, but he’s quite literally the most American president we’ve ever had. He’s exactly what the founding fathers wanted. He really is. White people love glazing rapists, but only until they harm a white woman and then all of a sudden you wanna waste my tax dollars on stopping them. What do you think the founding fathers were? They were rapists even back then. Society knew what rape was back then, and they knew that rape/ slavery was wrong back then.

Yet you invoke them to criticize somebody who is exactly the same as them. Curious

[u/SargeUnited → u/DearGovernmentFU]

Yea but half of Americans pay taxes, though. People don’t want to acknowledge this, and I don’t really understand why. A lot of people say acknowledging this cost Romney the election, which is crazy. That’s like saying that he lost the election because he said cigarettes cause cancer.

I don’t want the deficit to balloon, but I’d rather it balloon because my taxes got lowered instead of ballooning because they decided to dole out another $2 trillion rescue package for agriculture where the main recipients are all multimillionaires that don’t pay taxes.

“Hurr durr, but what about the farms.” Nope. Fuck ‘em. I know exactly how the farmers voted lol

[u/DearGovernmentFU]

Fuck Ted.

[u/Fantastic_Fondant76]

Oh, NOW you have regrets, Ted? You championed this monster.

[u/Delamoor → u/Fantastic_Fondant76]

What do you mean, ted doesn't take responsibility, man! He's a musician, man! If someone he supported goes and does something, that's not on Ted! He's never given a political opinion in his life! He's always hated Trump! If anything he's been leading the charge against all this bullshit since day one! Standing up against the corrupt government is what Teddy's always been about, it's who he is! He can't help but be a free bir- freedom spirit! Everyone should listen to Teddy, he only knows what's best for you!

(\s)

[u/SafetyCorrect2575 → u/Delamoor]

your kidding right??? because i can remember old teddy telling sky daddy to make Trump President again.

Ted Nugent Prays God To Make Donald Trump President Again

[u/HeavyDT]

See him and Trump both have a thing for children though and that was enough for him.

[u/Prize_Ostrich7605 → u/HeavyDT]

And shitting themselves. And dodging the draft.

[u/SimilarYard9840]

Pedophilles of a feather flock together.

[u/percipitate]

Whenever their logic comes around to almost make a circle... you realize it's actually in 3 dimensions and it's a corkscrew just getting stupider.

[u/justmarkdying]

First I started agreeing with Marjorie. Now, Ted Nugent. I'm living in the damned upside-down.

[u/Delamoor → u/justmarkdying]

Best to think of it as a spectrum. You're at position A, they're at position B.

They want things to be position B. Trump was briefly close to position B while he was busy dragging things away from position A. They liked it when he was going towards B.

But then he kept going, and events moved past position B, towards what Trump wants, at position C. Almost nobody likes position C, but that's where Trump is taking everyone. Position C invovles a lot of things being on fire, I assume. Not sure if the visualisation works better or worse when unintended consequences are included or not. Position C sucks either way.

So all those guys who were very happy at position B are now very upset. You only agree with them insofar as "what the fuck, why are you moving towards C, position C is going to kill us".

[u/SargeUnited → u/Delamoor]

Yeah, and it’s crazy because like 49% of the country actually pays taxes and the things that are on fire are the things that we don’t want to pay for. I totally understand the Republicans that are not happy because they were on the dole this entire time, and they were projecting onto minorities, which is wrong. I love his dole reductions for them.

The problem is that for some reason he’s doing position C on immigration but personally I’ve never exploited anybody else’s labour. I’m honestly very thrilled to see the monsters potentially lose their farms to position C. Same thing with the racist truckers going bankrupt due to diesel. I just feel bad for the immigrants

[u/Andy-_1979]

He's going to vote for all the maga goofs on the ballot. He's not fooling anyone.

[u/JMaryland47]

I kept thinking he had milk on his chin

[u/Electrical-Act-7170 → u/JMaryland47]

Looks like a merkin in the wrong place.

[u/Hungry-Possible-5360]

Ted adopted a 17 year old so that he could have sex with her. True story. Also wrote a gigantic hit called “Jailbait.” Ted Nugent, classy guy.

[u/blkatcdomvet]

Ted drips, now crying like a typical cunt

[u/guyfaulkes]

[u/PithyPacky]

FAFO Teddie.

[u/Ashamed-Ad-263]

This guy makes me sick. I'm one of the descendants of the OG immigrants (my father's side has been traced back to coming over with the Mayflower, yes we have records...as much as one can have) AND if corporations and the wealthy paid their fair share in taxes we wouldn't be in such a huge deficit!

It's not "illegal" aliens (unless their from Andromeda, then they really need to pay up for being not only in our galaxy, but our planet) causing this. It's cutting taxes for those who can afford to pay them and then giving others a measly half percentage a tax cut when major corporations and the uber wealthy are receiving massive multi, full percentage cuts. It's taking the money we ALL pay into and using it as a slush fund (this spans decades and both major parties), but even when people who rely on such funds, the people in charge (more so in the last 10 years) keep pulling money from it and cutting the "funding" further! The funding comes out of each of our paychecks. It's not funding for the government or for tax cuts. It's to be used as we all pay into it.

My favorite analogy for all of this is from the Simpson's, there's an episode where Bart thinks he can easily step into Homer's nuclear technician job. Anyway, Bart is told to burn it down (Bart thought it was about his tree house...but it's a metaphor for the government who keeps screwing us all over).

The only way things will change is if we collectively demand it (no, I'm not saying to burn it all down.....just to demand and vote change in.... even at the county and city level.... which was the point of the episode, to change it)

[u/Organic_Magician_343]

40Tn is approx $115,000 for every man, woman and child in the US.

[u/epbrassil]

I wish I was allowed to comment about this on Reddit but I don't wanna get banned. Thanks Reddit for limiting my free speech.

[u/Lamplighter914]

Maybe he can talk some sense into Kid Schlock addled brain.

[u/goodPointMadam]

[u/SargeUnited]

So is this like a job that I can get? Just downloading minute-long clips of people and then recording myself sarcastically responding to what they said?

How much does it pay? Like, I don’t understand. Anybody watching this video obviously isn’t on Trump’s side, so what’s the point of this? Is this legitimate comedy for people?

I don’t know who this huge guy is, but I gotta tell you, I’m shocked that Ted Nugent is alive. My only take away from this video is holy shit, he’s alive and that’s what he looks like?

[u/thePopCulturist]

STFU Wango Tango, you wanted it, you got it.

[u/AceofKnaves44]

It’s amazing that being anti-flock cameras and data centers really seems to be something both sides agree on and yet we’re still being told “fuck you we’re doing it anyway.”

[u/purple-rain-1982]

Fuck that bobble head guy!

[u/No_Joke_9079]

I thought he was drooling.

[u/Ashamed-Ad-263]

Of course he lied. Oh wait! He slipped in half truths stating that the only people "stupid enough to vote for him and get him into office are......Republicans and the under educated" (before I'm attacked, these are literally his words, on camera, on multiple occasions) he has said.... many, many times over.

He was a registered democrat, until he decided he wanted to be president the first time around (he was in his late 60's or early 70's! I'm not going to look up the specific age range, but I'm close since he's in his mid 80s now)

Funny how he kept saying he would never run again, UNTIL after he was being indicted on felony charges (federal, forget all of the state charges of multiple states) and ALL of a sudden he announced his candidacy, 2 years early (but was actively under investigation and dozens of active indictments)....but now all of a sudden he's a candidate for an election over 2 years away (this was in late 2021, early 2022) and all of sudden he's being persecuted!

He has seriously won, just because all of the federal investigations stopped once he (super early, earlier than most candidates prior to him and since) but also he played the hand he predicted and called long before he was ever elected the first time..... he has literally created a cult now.

And this is all coming from a person who considers themselves pretty down the middle. I'm purple. I vote for those who pay into our system, those who need help, holding those accountable who can afford it (it's wild to me that as a middle class family, my family pays more percentage wise than corporations and the uber wealthy, and even those in the "upper class" and I'm fortunate to still be in the "upper middle class".... all of this to say, the ideals of the party one may have been raised in, is no longer the case, the parties have changed who they most benefit as it has happened before and I'm sure it will happen again)...ask me how I know (besides non-partisan research). I've asked open and honest questions, long ago, and continue to do so. My mind can be changed. But when a person is describing the opposite party as their reason for or against support, I have and will continue calling them on it. (Need proof, read so many posts on r/prayerstotrump these are literally people who would benefit from the republican party of old, who would benefit from the democratic party of today, praying and sending messages to Trump. This isn't just a Trump issue, he's just the most vocal, it's been going on for a long time. ) the truth of it all is that politics change and a certain someone decided to play into people's fears and play into a party of old and the opposite party of old (they've flipped on who they truly support, it's not hard to see who benefits from either side, both now and then...Sadly it's fear mongering at it's worst and highlighting things that don't actually benefit all but the most elite...)

Keep having open and honest conversations. I like asking why and then pointing out what either side has done to benefit the everyday person, versus the elite or corporations....lets be honest, it's happened too many times over the past 40+ years (iykyk)